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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:28PM CheesusCrust said

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At low res you should add....
On that system(ONLY if it's a C2D @3.5 +) you would get 12-25 on high, and for it to be playable you gotta do medium, but it would still look better than any console game though(As res will be higher). And thats at 1280*1024. Crysis is too much of a resource hog, my system
q6600 @ 3.6GHz
48501GB OC to 650Mhz
4GB 1066MHz Ram
Vista 32-Bit(I know, I know, But it's all I had at the time I built it and I can't upgrade w/out losing all my stuff!)
Gets 20-50 at 1280*1024. So I'll be upgrading to a GTX 260 soon, but IDK if my 450w can handle it...
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 11:08PM RKN said

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But keep in mind that most 360/PS3 games also run at 1280x720 or below.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 4:49AM derdaim said

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@ Foetoid

exactly! I have the same system you mentioned, (more low end C2D, 4850, 4GB DDR2) and crysis runs like butter on 1920x1200 on High (~40-50 FPS, ~30 in Heavy Combat). People are just bitching around and don't know how to run their systems properly!
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 9:46PM (Unverified) said

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Anybody think that this might just be a less powerful version of CryEngine 2? My reasoning is that they have said before that the current console generation couldn't handle Crysis on a level that they would be satisfied with (don't have a reference, but I'm 99% positive that they have). If that is still true, then I find it hard to believe that they would be able to make an even more powerful graphics engine that could be used on consoles.

If I'm correct, then my idea is that they'll use CryEngine 3 for all of their multiplatform titles, but continue to use CryEngine 2 for all of their PC-exclusive titles.

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 9:55PM blueskyv201 said

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Well, I hope you're wrong. And I think both xbox and ps3 (especially) are capable of amazing graphics, developers just need to find a way to extract all that power. Hopefully that's what their new engine is going to do.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:12PM shibathedog said

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Your on to something, I'll let you know whats really going on, CryEngine 2 is just plain inefficient, and they don't want to admit to it. To fix this they are making CryEngine 3. Now what I'm wondering is if they made it this way on purpose (You can optimize Crysis yourself by editing config files to make it look AND run better, they could have easily just set them up to be efficient to begin with themselves) as part of some weird business plan (possibly even a deal with GPU companies!) that backfired. Or maybe its even more complicated than that and it HASN'T backfired!
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:24PM (Unverified) said

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Conspiracy theories?
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:54AM shibathedog said

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wow, duh. I was screwing around more and more by the end of the post and not paying much attention to what I was typing.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 9:51PM ThornedVenom said

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Time to change pants.

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 9:52PM ripvanwinkle said

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come on Timesplitters 3!!!

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:20PM Special Agent Steve said

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TIMECRYSIS 1/2 THE MIX-UP!
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 11:13PM LMLYP said

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:) always makes me happy when i see the boognish.
Ween is the greatest.

Anyballs.timesplitters 2 was decent on GC, but i hope cryengine 3 runs better than crysis.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 9:53PM blueskyv201 said

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Ohh . . . this is pure awesomeness.
Don't know why but this gets me a 100 times more excited than any game out there.
Also, cant wait to see some new dx11 features, it sounds very promising.

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:11PM (Unverified) said

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what about the wii? why does ps3/360 get all of the cool official games

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:15PM (Unverified) said

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Oh god...must resist. Please...someone fill in for me, this one's too easy
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:17PM Ozzy said

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*pats john on the head*
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:21PM Special Agent Steve said

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Wii could run that tree in Crysis... you know? The one that you break down... yeah, that's it.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:24PM (Unverified) said

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I'd love to see a hacker get Crysis running on the Wii, it would be interesting to see what happens.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:26PM MrU2 said

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I know, this is going to sound like I'm a 360 and PS3 fanboy... but the Wii just doesn't have the horsepower to run the games CryTech is going to make. Heck, the PS3 and 360 wouldn't even be able to run CryEngine 2 on highest settings. I personally think the main reason the Wii doesn't get all of the "official" games like the PS3 and 360 do, could just be because they're more of the "hardcore" game consoles, whereas the Wii is more of a friends and family console. It could also be because Nintendo doesn't have as many relationships with developers as Sony and Microsoft. Just mere speculation.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 12:03AM JuanLovesHorror said

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sorry bro you picked the wrong platform if want upcoming games like doom 4 or something from Crytek.The wii is not meant for hardcore games It will have some fun games but nothing from the hardcore developers.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:15PM xFenixKnightx said

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This just gave me a huge nerdboner, exsqueeze me guys. :P

Killzone 2 already looks dropdead gorgeous on PS3 so I'm very excited to see what consoles will be churnin' out next year. Supposedly MS said they have something in store that looks even better than KZ2. Hope it wasn't BS.

IMO right now GoW2 and KZ2 have the best grafix on consoles. In some areas Gears 2 looks better than KZ2 and vice versa. Good times...

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:24PM (Unverified) said

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You could argue all day that the 360 has equal graphical capabilities as the PS3, but there is NO WAY that the 360 has greater capabilities then the PS3.

So I don't think that they're will be any noticeably better looking game this gen, on any platform(excluding PC). Maybe equally good looking , but I don't think it'll get better to the point where people actually notice. (I'm sure the numbers will sound nicer though.)

So I call BS on Mircosoft having something better looking.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:39PM Karmastocracy said

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Maybe if they were both pushed to the max of their capabilities but Killzone 2 definitely does not epidomize the very best the PS3 could do. Yes obviously MS has something better lined up considering they are still trying to push the limits of the 360, but I believe your wrong because both the PS3 & 360 can have better graphics in the way of software not hardware (games, not console.)
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:45PM sear said

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As I said in another post, Killzone 2 looks nice but it doesn't maintain a steady framerate and it frankly doesn't touch PC games from almost two years ago. I'd say it's getting close to pushing the limits of the PlayStation 3, and I doubt we'll see Xbox 360 games that look much better than Gears of War 2, but they're still fairly dated in terms of visuals no matter how you look at it.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 11:00PM Da Largest said

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"As I said in another post, Killzone 2 looks nice but it doesn't maintain a steady framerate and it frankly doesn't touch PC games from almost two years ago."

Have you played the game? I had it dip noticeably below 30FPS once on me so far. I don't know what you're talking about; KZ2 looks damn fine. Then again, you're the guy who said UT3 looked better.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 11:16PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Yeah I agree that both of them are pretty much equal in terms of their visual prowess. It just depends which one your eye likes better. I would also put Metal Gear 4 in that discussion. The great thing is all three of those games have damn near perfect frame rates. MGS 4 had some specific parts that looked perfectly fluid.

Looking ahead this year I see games that can possibly surpass these visuals as being either Heavy Rain or Halo ODST. Just my opinion.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:52PM (Unverified) said

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The engine is ready for X360 and PS3 but it's only for the NEXT generation?
i don't get it

Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:55PM mikepaul said

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The story says NOW and for the next gen.

I guess they have code for now, and algorithms for whatever powers the next platforms...
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:29PM CheesusCrust said

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KZ2 looks better than GofWar2, and it doesn't matter if that 'G' stands for 'Gears' or 'God' .

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:45PM SmokemeaKipper said

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Hopefully the multiplayer portion of the engine has been made better that prior Crytek ones. You know, reliable and relatively bug free.

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:57PM Phara0h said

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Let's hope this gives Epic some competition.

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 11:34PM WiredKnight said

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Damn that was fast.

I guess they figured CryEngine 2 just wasn't selling enough.


By the time the "next" generation of games comes around, this engine will be obsolete. Just watch.

Posted: Mar 11th 2009 11:41PM AlexFirth91 said

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Damn can't wait to see a console game on this engine will most def. be sick no wonder they delayed splinter cell waiting for this i bet

Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:31AM einhanderkiller said

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lol, no.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 12:41AM Mazrael said

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CryENGINE isn't the only one, there's Crystal Tools by Square Enix.. but we'll see, I've been fairly disapointed with Eastern 'next-gen' games development as late. Lost Odyssey being the best I've seen so far

Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:25AM drun said

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oh, I really need to upgrade my graphic card. Using a 3870 right now, I'll buy a new one when AMD release 5870.

any company use this to make a porno game, please?

Posted: Mar 12th 2009 6:59AM Megadanxzero said

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No pretty pictures to show what the engine can do (If you have a PC that costs £3000...)?

;-;

Posted: Mar 12th 2009 7:18AM (Unverified) said

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Boy the fanboys are hot tonight...

Posted: Mar 12th 2009 7:35AM Optimaximal said

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"CryENGINE 3 will set the benchmark for complete game engine solutions in performance"

Proof or it'll never happen! Crytek don't have the greatest track record in that department.

Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:14PM jackal said

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Optimaximal,

Their first engine was pretty advanced when for the time (and was among the first to support HDR lighting) and not a single engine currently available on the market rivals what their second is capable of doing. I'd say they've got a pretty good track record when it comes to pushing the technical envelope a generation farther than what "currently" available hardware allows
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 6:33PM Sangor said

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Lets just hope its better than the Unreal Engine.

Posted: Mar 12th 2009 6:34PM eilegz said

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what about the Wii?

sigh always like third world country citizen

Posted: Mar 14th 2009 11:18PM (Unverified) said

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Crysis was over hyped in some parts, yes, but EA did fuck crysis over on its release. The UI looks extremely stupid in the released version, the gameplay, just about every god damn aspect of the game was turned retarded in its release. I look at theE3 videos from 2006/07 and still today think "Wow, that would have been a damn good game" then i launch the game and I say to myself "ugh, I'm glad i didn't pay sh**"

If there is a Crysis 2 or a Crysis port to the PS3, I'm going to buy it, but if its the same damn game with nothing changed, Crytek ain't touching my money.

Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 9:49PM NewYorkerKid said

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Hopefully, God of War III, Bioshock 2: Sea of Dreams, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 2, and Uncharted 2 developers inmplement this engine in their upcoming blockbusters.

Posted: Mar 24th 2009 3:01PM (Unverified) said

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For those who have the belief the xbox 360 and the playstation 3 could not run the CryENGINE2 system, you are wrong completely.
Lets boil this down.
Playstation 2 had the specs of 32Mb RAM and their little 600mhz emotion machine processor, that managed to run the play station 2 games perfectly and set the bar for the playstation 3.
The play station 3 how ever, has a IBM cell PPC each unit running at 3.2Ghz
There are supposedly one main unit and 7 smaller probe units for the cell architecture allowing alot more multitasting than the simple little single core 600mhz emotion engine.
The RAM? 256Mb DDR3@700mhz and another 256mb XDR@3.2ghz
Now, tell me considering this memory and processing power is being harnessed for a stripped down operating system and graphics format, who is going to win? pc or play station 3 equaly of specs.
for a pc you have windows which will eat alot more memory than the system the playstation will.

Xbox 1 ran on 64MB RAM and a 733mhz Intel celeron, A CELERON! seriously, it was good enough to run Doom3 and Halo 2 which by the way was no easy feat for the pc during its time.
Xbox 360 runs on 512mb DDR3@700mhz RAM and a triple core IBM PPC running at 3.2ghz running on a hybrid system of a wripped down windows XP OS and Windows Longhorn every little thing that isnt needed in a console is not included in this system which vastly improves its operation versus a pc of equal specs.
If you ask me, if anything is good enough to run cryengine3 its these two systems.
oh and in regards to anyone wanting to bitch about either xbox360 or ps3, dont they both have a system bandwidth of arround 23GBPS, much more than the average pc.

Posted: Mar 25th 2009 11:09PM jackal said

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Neither console is a processing power house, and you're delusional to think they've got some sort of technological advantage over an equivalently priced PC. You go on about how great CELL and Xenon are, but you're completely ignoring that they're both in-order execution processors and that their IPC (instructions per clock) is simply pitiful compared to a contemporary Intel or AMD processor (even their offerings in 2005 were faster); both are clocked as high as they are to somewhat overcome their notable limitations. Hell, Xenon isn't all that much faster in single threaded performance than the mutant Coppermine found in the original XBOX (the same applies to CELL). The ONLY thing those two processors have going for them is multithreading (In CELL's case, using an SPE in place of a hardware thread because CELL actually lacks threads) and, even then, they claim no performance crown.

You point out the frequencies both consoles' memory run at as if it's something mind blowing when it isn't in the least. DDR3 @ 700 MHZ! Who cares what frequency it's running at when you've got relatively high latencies and shitty timings to contend with? It'd be like you saying DDR2 667 is better than DDR 400 just because it has a higher clockspeed even though nearly all real world tests would show the DDR 400 kit is the better option in everything but bandwidth. Speaking of bandiwidth, 23 GB/s total system bandwidth is NOTHING when you consider a contemporary videocard has, by itself, several times that amount (my HD 4870's bandwidth alone is 140 GB/s). Hell, we had more bandwidth available in our systems before either of those consoles sold their first unit. So, what was your point?

Finally, no one said the Xbox 360 and PS3 couldn't run the Cryengine2 (and by association, the third Crytek engine). Before Crytek announced Cryengine3, they showed their engine running on both system behind closed doors. All we've said is that no contemporary console is powerful enough to run Crysis anywhere near High fidelity even at a sub-720p resolution and Crytek themselves have confirmed as much. When the company actually responsible for developing both the middleware and the game says, "No, they aren't good enough to run this title with these image quality settings for the following technical reasons", do you honestly think you've got any room to argue with them? No, of course you don't. If an HD 4870, a videocard with almost 10 times the shader power of Xenos or the RSX, can't run the game at Very High settings above 1280x1024 (mind you, that's still a higher resolution than what 97% of all console games natively run at) without becoming a slideshow, your Xbox 360 or PS3 would burst into flames trying to attempt the same feat. If Crysis ever does wind up on the Xbox 360 or PS3 in the future, it's guaranteed the console port will look nowhere near as good as what we've been playing for almost 2 years now.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30843645@N04/3082217604/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30843645@N04/3343395445/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30843645@N04/3343396583/sizes/l/

Take a long, good look at those screenshots because you'll never seen anything coming from any of your systems that rivals them in any capacity.


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Posted: May 1st 2009 9:21AM (Unverified) said

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Are you sure it's going to for PC too

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