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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:19PM dave2 said

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burn nintendo to the ground!
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:22PM (Unverified) said

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So, Microsoft does a price drop. Sony sits in rumor land about a price drop, and Nintendo does a price increase?
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:18PM Gun Barrier said

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I think sony and microsoft just had a heart attack.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:27PM Jerk Face said

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That picture is choice!
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:45PM CubeGuy said

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Agreed. Fantastic.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:32PM Marius said

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Greedy, Snobby, Lame, yep sounds like Nintendo
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:35PM (Unverified) said

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More proof all (non-European) game companies hate Europe.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:39PM RKN said

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LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:42PM NaeemTHM said

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GOD DAMN YOU NINTENDO!!! Will your thirst for money ever be quenched?!
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:42PM (Unverified) said

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Would yours?
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:50PM rudolphe said

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Damn, anytime a console can actually RAISE the price you know they are kicking ass....

They could probably get away with this with the DS too.

But hey, on the bright side they should have tons of money for R&D for the next Nintendo 'Revolution'.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:14PM SoCoolCurt said

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i was thinking the same thing. people have been joking about Nintendo doing this with the Wii with it's shortages for years now, never thought i'd actually see it happen though. oh well, i already have mine and i don't live in the UK anyway.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:56PM (Unverified) said

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Because trying to turn a profit when the economy is going to shit, and the exchange rate is probably going shittier, is evil.

Really, it's nice to have cheap consoles, but a company shouldn't be *expected* to eat losses on hardware.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 1:58PM Marius said

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Its been two years, both M$ and Sony have dropped their price, while Nintendo who already makes profit raises it, I dont think it cost that much to make a shitty console
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:24PM (Unverified) said

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Agreed. The Wii cannot cost more than $50, labor included, to make. Greedy ass sons of bitches charging so much for last gen tech...

Anyway, in this topsy-turvy world, they will probably double in sales in the UK after the price increase.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:10PM Mr Khan said

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You'd be surprised. A lot of tech goes into the Wiimote, and the NAND RAM they use for the internal memory is apparently still expensive stuff. The rest can't amount to that much (although it might come full-circle that the processors are now so archaic that its actually costing more to make them), but $50 is laughable. That thing still costs at least $150
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:37PM (Unverified) said

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Mr. Khan,

Actually, anywhere past 100 is laughable

Look, this is an article about Wii manufacturing cost

http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/15/wii-manufacturing-costs-ring-up-to-just-158/
http://kotaku.com/gaming/wii/wii-autopsy-discovers-manufacturing-cost-221736.php

According to the article, the total cost of the Wii was about $ 158.30.

That was 2 years ago, not only has a long time has passed, but they have sold a hell lot of units, the manufacturing cost is very likely to have dropped drastically.

So yes, to say that the Wii costs more than 100 is, once again, a laughable idea.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:45PM (Unverified) said

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oh, and Feba, yes, they are expected to, not only because demand for Wii's hasn't been met by supply, but also because, unlike Sony and Microsoft that run razor thin profit margins with their respective consoles, Nintendo makes profit off each console sold!

They haven't even decreased the prices, not one single price cut, yet they are already raising the prices because of "economic times", that's just bullshit buddy, they already make enough from console/peripheral sales, software sales, and royalties.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 4:37PM xxxsam said

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@Noshino:

The manufacturing cost doesn't decline anywhere near as quickly as the other platforms because it wasn't based heavily on the cost of a couple of bleeding-edge chips which started out extraordinarily expensive due to low yields and reduce in cost drastically as processes improve (witness the move to newer manufacturing processes on other platforms). I'm sure that no chip in the Wii had anything other than an excellent yield to begin with. Similarly, how many significant board revisions have they done compared to the other manufacturers? The bleeding-edge systems started with very high numbers of components which could rapidly be designed down and integrated - Wii was probably well-integrated to begin with. And a higher proportion of the system's cost is in things like manufacturing, case, PSU, packaging etc that don't really decline in price much.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they have been making a good profit margin and this price increase is a way to protect that margin, not to stop losses.

The yen price paid by UK customers will still be significantly lower than at release, so in effect, Nintendo have already decreased the Wii price by a large margin in the UK. Ordinarily companies eat losses (...or profit decreases) caused by currency fluctuations, even large ones as we've seen recently. But given that people are still buying the system in droves, Nintendo can increase the price to get back some of that large profit margin, and it's not entirely shocking that they have done.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 5:04PM (Unverified) said

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Sam,

The Wii used for the most part old components, not many of them were current, the price of said pieces was likely on a decline, to say that the price of non-cutting edge components doesn't decline drastically over a course of 2 years or so is rather naive.

As for board revisions, Im 100% sure about 1 of them (http://tinyurl.com/yva8g2). Also, look at the wide array of serial numbers that the Wii has (http://tinyurl.com/39s25u), take in mind that Nintendo is known for not publicizing many revisions that they want to leave under low profile.

"And a higher proportion of the system's cost is in things like manufacturing, case, PSU, packaging etc that don't really decline in price much."

As shown on the article about the Wii's cost, it seems that you are incorrect, more than 50% of the price, at least back 2 years ago, was only on the hardware.

Anyway you want to spin it, there is no excuse as to why they would have a price raise before even price cut.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:05PM (Unverified) said

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Wow, these comments are filled with a whole lot of stupid. Feba got it right; the exchange rate with the pound has gone in the tank. I believe that, without the price increase, Nintnedo would be taking a loss on ever sale.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:46PM Paviel said

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But how is the Euro doing, and will prices in mainland Europe stay consistent?

On second thought, the British would get screwed over anyway when changing their pounds into Euros, especially if the Euro is still doing better than the British pound.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:05PM (Unverified) said

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A big fat told you so, thanks to common sense. Where are you now Markez?
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:59PM MarkezJM said

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Eh?
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 4:06PM MarkezJM said

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"Such F'ing greed. But of course its Nintendo and everyone on joystiq will defend this.

I wish Sony and MS would raise their prices just to see what all of you would say."

Is that what you're referring to? Your comment from the other day? In which I replied saying you were jumping to conclusions, and that was all?

I see people calling this greedy, saying it's a bad move, I see people asking when their thirst for dough will be quenched, I see people discussing manufacturing costs, I see someone threatening to kill any consumer that'd buy it at an increased price, I see people in bemused awe that this is happening.

What I don't see is evvveeeeryyyyoooooneee on Joystiq defending this. At all. I mean is that what you were talking about? 1st time I get called out on Joystiq, and it's about that?

Gosh, I wish MS and Sony would raise their prices, just to see what you would say (dumbest statement evar kthxbaiomg)
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:18PM (Unverified) said

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I'm glad I don't have to buy a Wii since I own a launch system but this is really shitty to see. They could, you know, give us a price drop. Nintendo and Capcom are really dropping balls.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:20PM Kaminaaa said

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A 60GB 360 costs £170 max, and now some Elite bundles are going for £200. Honestly, at this price point, there is no point in buying a Wii.

Nintendo's reason is complete BS aswell. Everyone else is dropping prices, so why should the one company that's making profit increase the price?

Couple this with the DSi's outrageous £150 price tag and I hope Nintendo does lose a huge amount of sales. They're just being greedy now.

And it's pathetic how they're trying to blame this on the retailers. First with the DSi, they didn't actually state the price in their launch date announcement post on the official website, and now they're saying that the decision to raise the price is down to the retailers! Bad form Nintendo bad form...

NOE suck.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 2:55PM (Unverified) said

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Everybody seems mad but I think it's kind of funny. Has this ever happened with game consoles before?
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:46PM (Unverified) said

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Never, this would be the first ever console to raise the price before there was even a price cut...
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 5:16PM Ignatius said

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Actually, TECHNICALLY Microsoft raised the price of their Arcade console after massive drop to $179. It was raised to stay in line with the other SKUs to $199.

However, this is just asinine.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:05PM Dante G said

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It's only natural. I wouldn't doubt Microsoft and Sony doing the same soon enough. This may be new to the british, but in the rest of the world, when your currency loses its worth imported things get more expensive to you.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:10PM TheSound said

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The worst thing out of all this? People will still pay for the raised price even though there is a cheaper, and in my opinion, better option in the 360 Arcade and even Pro.

And while the capitalist side of me sees why they are doing this, common sense comes in and says Nintendo is being greedy. I mean seriously, with all the money they've made and continue to make on the Wii, there really is no need for this. They are a large, billion dollar corporation, making people looking for something to do (since entertainment items tend to do better in bad economic climate) that is relatively inexpensive and can last a long time pay MORE is wrong on many levels.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:39PM Megadanxzero said

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Guess what price a 360 Elite is at GAME? £199.99

THE WII IS NOT WORTH AS MUCH AS A FUCKING ELITE NINTENDO ಠ_ಠ
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 4:45PM xxxsam said

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@dan: The difference is people want Wiis and they don't want 360s (as much). Turns out that for whatever reason - better commercials, word of mouth, people like casual games, greater supply of kid- and adult-friendly games, or whatever - Wii is, in fact, worth more to most people than a 360. That's been true for ages, at least with the Arcade model 360.

People don't make console buying decisions based on the system's processing power.

By the way, a £20 price difference is sufficient to make people 'stupid' enough that you're getting all vigilante killer up in the place? I think Wii is pretty damn expensive for what it is (even in Japan or the US), but if you want a Wii, the extra £20 doesn't make much odds.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 4:47PM xxxsam said

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@curve: oh, and while I agree with the sentiment that it's way expensive, sadly the way companies are set up is that they're only responsible to their shareholders (providing they follow applicable laws etc). Nintendo has a responsibility to make the biggest profits they can (while not pissing people off so much that they risk losing money in future). That's it.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:13PM Mr Khan said

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Its just a bad move on the customer side of things, no matter how much business sense it makes. Though in the case of software, profit margins are narrower, so they can't so readily afford to skate around the depreciation of the pound
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 3:36PM Megadanxzero said

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If I see a single person buy a Wii at that price, or even HEAR someone suggest that they MIGHT buy one, I will literally kill them. They'd be too stupid to keep on living...
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 4:31PM jhowlett said

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people have over paid for it before i wouldn't be surprised to see it again
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 4:40PM MarkezJM said

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Guilty as charged here. Think I paid 50 beans over retail ages ago off to some smelly dude who posted it on craigslist. I think his name was Rob, or Rich, or something, but remembering his name as Smelly gives him a more endearing place in my memory.

There was someone audibly grumping one out in the bathroom the whole time I was there completing the transaction.

Don't hate the playa, hate Smelly
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 4:27PM jhowlett said

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they could just leave the price alone and call it a price cut
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 5:19PM Ignatius said

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I hope they raise the price in the US, I'll be able to make a profit off my 2 year-old Wii easily.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 7:35PM Jezer29 said

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Nintendo should be ashamed of themselves.. The Wii was the only 1 of the 3 consoles, that when launched. Was sold for more than producing cost (I believe they we're making a $50 profit on hardware) And here we are almost 3 years later and a gazillion Wii's already sold.. And they decide to jack up the price.. Way to go Nintendo, thats really showing your consumers some appreciation for buying your console and the shit load of crappy games that come with it..
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Posted: Mar 13th 2009 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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I think you really need to appreciate how much the pound has depreciated in value since the Wii was released:
http://tinyurl.com/JPY-GBP

Taking the figures from earlier stating the Wii's production cost to be £150 at release and applying the 2006 exchange rate would put it at 33,600 Yen, applying today's exchange rate to this puts it closer to £250. It would take a significant plunge in production costs to offset such a drastic change in the value of the pound.
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Posted: Apr 28th 2009 1:15PM (Unverified) said

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Everyone seems to be assuming retail prices will go up. Why?

I'd bet this is Nintendo's way of limiting retailer profits to the high attach rate of the Wii (controllers and games). Nintendo is taking way retailer console sales profits, and prices will stay the same. If any stores raise their prices, you can expect they'll mysteriously get less shipments of Wiis. If they can even sell them in the first place, when charging more than every other store.

Shrewd as hell move on Nintendo's part. But the demand is there, and they're a company, their goal is to make a profit.

What's sad is that the 360 and (worse) PS3 are such bad consoles that people will still pay $250 to buy a Wii, when the others are getting to be the same price or cheaper for "better" hardware.
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