Capcom: Dead Rising 2 and Lost Planet 2 coming 'next year'

that probably wont happen*

Fixed!

I never had a problem with the save system more like the lack of a save system in Infinity Mode.

Reaching day 7 in one sit...Capcom what the frack kid?

Also co op would be fucking amazing in dead rising.

Co op would be a nice add on. But this generation has been filled with that. In other words, if it has co op then it automatically gets good reviews. RE 5 is a perfect example of that.

The save system was a huge problem for me. If you werent going to be playing for long periods of time then it becomes a hassle playing the game at all. I'm surprised I even finished.

I think Co-op would be nice and unlike MP Co-op is actually fun for everyone and people are less idiotic.

Co-op and save anywhere are two things that should be borderline mandatory in games by now.

We have all this cool stuff to see people online when they're playing something else, invite them into games, etc. And then if you're playing a game that doesn't let you save anywhere you can barely use it.

That's why I've barely played any RPGs this gen. I got tired of getting invites to Gears/CoD rooms that I wanted to get into but had to wait 15-20 minutes to get to the next save point first, only to have those rooms be full by the time I was finally able to save.

Save anywhere would ruin the game, remove all challenge from it.

@Vcize

You make a good point. Saving anywhere should be in every fucking game. But i'm not too sure about co op.

I play my video games at work, without xbox live. If every game was tailored so that you HAD to have someone playing with you contstantly, I would be one bored employee. Co op is a nice add on to a game but I don't want it to be a must have in every game.


@Extinction

So you would rather stay with the with the horrible save system instead of one that makes the game less of a hassle to play? Your probably one of those Resident Evil fans who actually defend those horrible controls, right?

And you're probably one of those people who played the demo and reviewed the entire game based on the demo's merits, right?

I'm not big on save anywhere. Most games lack challenge if you can save anywhere, unless you make it a challenge by creating a rule for yourself, like "only one save per 20 minutes" or something. Then of course you can run into problems where you save it and seconds later you die. Hope you had multiple saves, sucker. And keeping multiple saves is just annoying. Naturally, this situation can be solved by the levels being designed with "safe" areas, which begs the question of why not just make those "safe" areas checkpoints and be done with it?

Another possible issue is with pacing. Checkpoints give a player a sense of pacing and let them have a "I'll play to one more checkpoint" feel. Save anywhere makes the levels feel like they drag out and you don't have a good idea of where it's going to end. This can also lead to the classic "I have one rocket left and I'm not going to use it until I need it" syndrome.

Really, if levels and checkpoints are done right, save anywhere looks clumsy by comparison.

@Toro

Having co-op doesn't mean it has to be designed for co-op. That's one of the things I dislike about developer's views, they feel like they have to work the co-op gameplay into the story. That's great for games that do it, but games that don't shouldn't just do it altogether. Take GTA4 for example. Instead of a couple lame missions designed for co-op that last all of 20 minutes, why not just make the single player game exactly the same as it was in terms of cutscenes, story, etc but when the actual gameplay comes up you can have another guy walking around with you? He never even has to be mentioned by any of the other characters, as if he's not even there, but let us use him in the actual gameplay.

@Anam

No one ever complained about lack of challenge in Bioshock or Mass Effect and both had save anywhere features. Hell, both had checkpoints to go along with them that you could use if you wanted to.

Also I disagree on pacing. Checkpoints are the devil because 90% of the time they're done in a screwy way. You might have 3 checkpoints in 10 minutes of gameplay and then not another one for 35 minutes. Also you often get left with checkpoints after long cutscenes, or a tough battle that comes 5-10 minutes into a cutscene so every time you replay it you have to wade through the other 5-10 minute easy part first.

Same thing with having an end point, I feel exactly the opposite as you. When I am done playing I want to be done playing, but no I have to drag on or rush through another 15 minutes that I'm not going to enjoy as much because I am at the point where I don't feel like playing anymore. Also there are times where I want to just go a little bit further, maybe check around the next corner, but I don't want to get started on a whole other checkpoint that I have to play all the way through and end up quitting earlier than I would have liked. Long story short, I know when I want to stop playing the game, I don't need the developers to tell me when to do it.

I should clarify that I am referring to shooting/action games when I condemn save anywhere. Mass Effect (and Bioshock, to an extent) is an RPG and you should absolutely be able to save anywhere because you could spend half an hour talking to one person then die.

Bioshock was called easy in the Gamespot review and I've heard people call it easy here. I personally thought it was okay, but I also suck at dual-analog controls.

Most of your complaints seem to be with a poorly implemented checkpoint system. Sure, anything can be poorly done. That doesn't mean that checkpoint systems are always bad or that save anywhere should always be implemented. It's like saying that every game should let you fly because jumping puzzles usually suck (and they do). If you had good puzzles, you wouldn't want to fly. If you had good pacing, you wouldn't want to save anywhere.

If you want a couple of examples of what can be wrong with save anywhere, here's some bits of my experience:

Half-Life - Played through most of the game, got bored on a level that seemed endless and quit the game. Little did I know I was about 5 minutes away from the end. Damn, would've been nice to see that.

Bioshock - Saved it somewhere, can't figure out how to get out of where I am. Eventually quit, watched amazing twist on youtube. Cool game.

Aside from those problems, some of the best challenges I've had in action games came from games with checkpoints, most notably Goldeneye. While save anywhere would have certainly made protecting Natalya less frustrating, I can't help but think my memory of that game would be "good game, too easy" rather than "best game I've ever played, still haven't beat it."

Sure, I could limit myself on save anywhere to accomplish the same thing, but the feeling of accomplishment would be jacked up.

My dear Jonathan, would I be that ignorant as to judge a game with out playing it? You see, I have been playing resident evil and here is my gamer tag to prove it. http://profile.mygamercard.net/JeffWithAnF

Not everyone is as ignorant as you RE fanboys. Go do me a favor and go play a real Survival Horror game like Dead Space.

This is CAPCOM, so it'll most likely be the beginning of 2010. They very rarely release games during the 'Holiday season' like everyone else does for some reason.

Yeah, stick it to the man!

I didn't realize how much I wanted a non-adversarial versus mode in a survival horror / action game until Crapcom decided to charge an extra five-spot for it!

First DMC4 going multi platform, now this hubbub over DLC... They've gone too far, and I refuse to enjoy their high-quality products that are sure to provide me with endless hours of sheer bliss.

-Hey look who is over there,OMFG is Capcom!

-Hello Capcom are you going to give us extras in our games like you did before?

*Wee

-Capcom but you shouldn't charge for stuff you included in the game that were for everyone to enjoy.

*Wee

Stop being a dickhead Capcom,you to Bungie,seriously f*cking stop it.

I repsect your opinion itty but you know Capcom used to release their games with a lot of kickass aditional content but since DLC kick in yo they have been abusing it and charging stuff that were part of the game.

Yeah MP mode is a bad idea for a game like RE:5 in fact I'm kinda glad is separated from the game but the damn title update always make me feel that if I don't get a 100% completition I'm not squeezing every penny out of the experience.

DMC4 was fun but to be honest awfully short and repetitive compared to DMC1 and 3.

What's with me lately that I can talk for hours and keep missing the point,dear Lord I should be a politician.

Anyway I kind of hate when a game charges for costumes etc etc that in older generations were part of the game.Part of why we all loved Capcom,don't get me wrong you will need something far worse than DLC to make me hate Capcom but DLC takes away part of the charm.

what did bungie do? Their DLC came out months after the original game. That's hardly unlocking stuff on the disc

It was a reference to an Eegra strip and I couldn't think of anyone to fill the last spot so I choose Bungie mostly because the Mythic is pretty much Sandbox alone and the game refuses to be a cool dude and allow me to play Grifball and Infection whenever I feel like it.

Screw you Capcom supporters, be part of the solution not the problem

Jeckyl, what did they used to include for free that they're now including as DLC? I'm pretty sure you just pulled that comment straight out of your ass. They've had 4 previous Resident Evil games and none included multiplayer (or co-op for that matter) and about 100 prior SF games and none included true alternate costumes.

It's kind of hard not to support Capcom. Sure, they've screwed up a few times here and there (Clover Studios is no more), but they've still provided us with 30 continuous years worth of awesome memories. Being one of the few Japanese developers to really grasp modern gaming technology and embrace a world market, it's hard to fault them for this one folly. It's a learning curve, and as far as Japanese development is concerned, Capcom is still leading it.

You're only punishing yourself.

No I don't take stuff up my ass,what you do? Creep.

Ha ha no you ignorant nincompoop what I meant is that Capcom used to include a lot of cool stuff in their games like in Resident evil 2 5th survivor and alternate costumes.

Now in games like Megaman 9 bosses and other characters are unlockable for price.Not neccesary stuff but that sort of stuff like cheats etc was included in the past generation and was ultimate awesome.

Nowadays is all about DLC and achivements.The last game I played that you could use cheats was Dead Space and calling having 1,000 credits once per gameplay a cheat would be exaggerating.

But thanks for trying to put words in my mouth toser.

In order to progress there must be sacrifice

Well itty the thing is that Capcom is what you said true but if you stick with Capcom for a while you notice that they also have this annoying tendency of running after the American Market and screwing their fans at every chance they get.

Dino Crisis as always is a good example; they run a perfectly good game to the ground in order to make it more American. In the case of RE:5 it worked and now is hard to blame them for that actually I think RE:5 is the best selling Resident evil game or at least sold more than any of the previous games (not counting 4,now you could say I made up that since I’m using Gametrailers numbers)

Then again Capcom is hard to hate them since they aren’t like Konami and SE that stick with their franchises and never move. Capcom also gave us Haunting Grounds and VJ (HG was weird but it wasn’t bad and its genius compared with *sigh rule of the rose)

Still I don’t like when they take cool stuff like that away from their games, they lose a bit of the spark. Again I don’t blame them business is business and you can bet Vince soul I’m buying Dead Rising 2.

Longhorn yeah Row Row fight the power, is like you may have a point but is immediately canceled because you immediately offend everybody, you are the equivalent to the crazy old woman from the Simpsons that throws cats at everybody.

Still kind of hate you for calling nuts and bolts shit, I placed my mind into the mind of the average infantile and mentally ill fanboy (YOU) to see if you had a point and I was overrating but after playing Nuts and Bolts again I discover that is either too much for your mind to process or you are even more negative than me and if you are even more negative than me you are probably in your way to place a Car bomb at the nearest embassy.

Maybe ill just buy them used that way Capcom doesnt receive any of my money and Gamespot does.

*GameStop,
I always get those confuse

monster hunter. those games got loads of free and fun DLC.

Longhorn put a sock in your mouth.

Monster hunter is awesome but I couldn't get pass the loading times and ome timed mission in the desert.Then again I also screwed up my character.

You're making no sense dude. You said that Capcom games used to include cool unlockable stuff but now it doesn't because they just sell it, that's just not true.

SF4 has more unlockable stuff than any of the other dozens of SF's they've released. And on TOP of that extra stuff they also have alternate costumes (as DLC) which they've never had before.

I have no idea what is available in RE5 since I have no plans to play it, but I would guess it's not stripped of unlockable stuff either.

So you haven't play it,oh yeah I'm totally the one making stuff up *facepalm

Basic stuff really there are 2 extra costumes,movie gallery,text character background and a Smash Brothers Brawl like Trophy section.Not bad and I'm quite happy with it butstill believe the DLC is a dick move.Charge it appart but FFS don't make the same sh*t ohers do and with the update f*ck eveeryone who wanted to get a 100% by adding a mode only a few people are interested in.

Both are coming to PS3.

I've got a large dose of skepticism about Lost Planet 2 on the PS3 after that atrocious port they did for Lost Planet (the original).

@jimmijam - Have you played Resident Evil 5? Supposedly it is indiscernible between the versions for each respected platform. Lost Planet was a year old port. Lost Planet 2, like RE5, is being developed for a simultaneous (or near-simultaneous) release on both platforms. This is on top of LP2 using the updated MT Framework also used in RE5.