Scratch: The Ultimate DJ: The First Trailer

Maybe because you plug one of these games in and it's instantly fun. No rhythm training, no reading a 200pg manual for a syhtesizer, no months upon months learning the ins and outs of software... just fun right then and there.

To give you an example, first play of Beatmania, I could beat 511 and had a blast doing it. At the two month mark of learning guitar... I can FINALLY play Face from the Beck anime.

You also assume everyone who plays these games HAVE desires of learning guitar/drums/ or even professional vocal training. Which is a damn ignorant stance and roughly the equivelant of saying "Why do people PLAY Tomb Raider instead of flat cliff face climbing?"

I lost a brother and a (very ambitious) german shepard that way, Sheps. Damn Tomb Raider!!!

"something i will never understand about these type of games, is why not just actually learn to play an instrument instead of pumping hours into pretending to know how to play one."
-Muscular Jones on rhythm/music games

"i've played the games, sure they're fun with a group of people"
-Muscular Jones on rhythm/music games, same post.

I know, MJ, it's like, why play GTA when I can go outside and mass muder people on the street?

Real instruments don't have achievements.

Beatmania was released in the US, however, the fact is, it was not pulling in as much as it could have been. I don't even understand how it couldn't. It comes bundled with the turntable when you purchase the game (I just checked on play-asia and this was in 2006, not THAT long ago). It is still true that they did not bring IIDX to any other country. But you have to admit, most gaming companies like to test the international waters with a single product rather than hope that eventually it will become a best seller. To my knowledge, none of these games had real english tracks and is likely to be another reason as to why they did not consider investing in an overseas market (Similar to PES, since they did not have the rights to players names, they had to make names up).

Regardless of beatmania's availability, I agree that this game is obviously a rip off of beatmania with a guitarhero take and as such, I will not be picking this game up. As much fun as Guitar Heroes is (it's the only western music game i have played - call me a hater. i don't care.), i still think konami's line of games such as guitarfreaks, drummania, keyboardmania and beatmania are easily way better than their western counter parts. Given that the interconnectivity between the games previously only existed in the arcade, i hope that they will bring a new line of these games should they decide to release it for the 7th generation consoles since they are internet capable.

I'm pretty sure it'll never happen, but i like to hope that corporations like MTV (since they intend to release this) and musical game developers come together with konami to bring their line of games, not just DDR but the rest of the lineup as well, over to the west for all to enjoy - of course, with the addition of western tracks.

@MF Doom:
yes, beatmania needs MF Doom. Technically, i think they could just bring MF Doom and make a special edition with just the special herbs tracks

You are right, dot. BM US is around (it sits underneath my living room console, DJ table and all), so I probably should've been more clear about when I said I wish Konami had been more on the ball with the game and bringing it to other places, including North America. I really meant that they should have done a better job both making the US version, as well as promoting it. In the end they did not, and we had fuckwits like G4 saying it was a "Guitar Hero rip off", in spite of the fact that the game precedes GH by eight whole years.

Part of it is Konami's fault, really. Your average North American, pop culture-fed schmoe probably doesn't give a damn if your music game has "V", "5.1.1.", "321 Stars", "Do You Love Me?", or any other popular music that has become Beatmania staples. All they care about is, "Well, but can I play Metallica? Can I play Avril Lavigne?" Yes, BM US had some popular music, a la Britney Spears, Jamiroquai, Fatboy Slim ... but no real deal breakers in terms of notoriety. And the lack of any sort of advertising for the game, at least beyond scant magazine clippings and online ads, didn't help to spread the word, either.

Ultimately, Konami probably missed out on an opportunity by not more quickly trying to integrate GF/DM state-side. They could have leaned on the popularity that DDR had brought them, as well as brought to the music genre as a whole, but instead sat back on their heels for the most part.

because everythings gotta be about you, doesnt it?

Hip-Hop and Rap is not crap your are though.

If you want trance and house, look into DJ Portable Max on PSP. Cheaper to import than Beatmania. This looks to be focusing solely on Hip Hop.

Which is a shame because people LOVE our music when starting their movies/tv shows and really enjoy it during a club night, but fuck it all if Junkie XL ever becomes as household of a name as Kayne West.

Sheppy, I totally agree. I think hip-hop and electronic music have always had a strange, intertwined relationship, so it boggles the mind how people can love hip-hop, but completely disregard quality electronic music.

When I first heard this game was coming out, I was excited, because I thought it was going to bring some electronic music to the mainstream. How naive of me. But hey, Grand Theft Auto 4 had an electro radio station! It would be insane to expect ANOTHER miracle like that in such a short amount of time.

How hard is the Roc-Pile?

HARD AS FUCK

I've gotta be one of the biggest hip hop enthusiasts on this website and I still don't understand why the rest of these folks can't read.

Mystile never said that hip hop sucked, people. He said the majority of the hip hop in this game sucks.

I'm inclined to agree.

Stop being so damned defensive.

Music, like almost everything in life, is subjective. Stop pretending like it isn't.

Kamizar,.. opinions are subjective too.

IMO Kanye West, Black Eyed Peas suck.

If you like it, good for you. Now you have a game filled with it.
Oh and to give you a clue about the kind of hip hop and turntabelism I do enjoy:

Roots Manuva
X-Ecutioners (older stuff)
DJ Shadow
M.O.P.
Alkoholics

Just to name a few.

"Kamizar,.. opinions are subjective too."

Oh yeah, thanks for letting me know, I wasn't sure. Even though thats the basis of an opinion, a subjective view of something.

I don't care about what music you like, I don't care about what music you hate, just stop saying the music in this game sucks. You can't prove that, in fact, I bet most of the songs in this game will be chart toppers. For a business, what do you think would be the better option, appealing to a majority, or a niche?

...though I kinda wish it hadn't.

Bugger. I can't read :)

It does say US only. my bad (well, still MTV's bad for being so silly)

Works in italy

Really?

Cool. I'm just creating a proxy anyhows so can pretent do be in Italy :)

sorry didnt mean 2 reply 2 u

Oh and RunDmc is awsome lol,

and no doubt there will be poor excuses of rap (soulja boy *cough*) in this game but hopfully they have the mind to put some real music in there

@ PROF3TA

I agree, its like everyone would like eminem, but then hate Dr.dre when they have similar style.

@ others

Music is Music.

People have opinion dont sit there and diss rap just cause you dont like it, not everyone likes "Slit-ure-wrists-emo" songs.

(yea i sed it)