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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 6:54PM (Unverified) said

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Does I smell butthurt?
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Posted: Mar 25th 2009 12:26PM petepete said

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do i smell an anime geek?
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 6:58PM Vcize said

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Though I enjoyed both games immensely, Braid was better than Castle Crashers. Especially with the online issues that CC had.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 6:59PM Saria the Cat said

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Best Innovation, seriously? Braid deserves to be in other categories and not this one. Though compared to other XBLA games in the running, maybe Braid was most innovative.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:07PM (Unverified) said

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I wouldn't really call Briad innovative. The very small amount of time i spent with it it just seemed like super mario mixed with POP sands of time (the whole rewinding thing) . But yeah not many Arcade games really pushing boundaries as far as i can see.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:53PM Nomgoos3 said

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Looking at that list has me wondering if it should have gotten Best Original Game. I don't disagree with the innovation thing. Each level forced you to think in ways to solve it. The puzzles themselves were innovative imo.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:00PM Saria the Cat said

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@mongoos: I thought the puzzles were clever too, but a puzzle game having "good puzzles" doesn't make those puzzles or the game innovative. Puzzles in a puzzle-based game SHOULD be clever.

Though I guess it depends what you define to be innovative. I think Portal is innovative due to its unique game mechanic.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:07PM SheppyReturns said

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Maybe Braid won best innovation since it was the first time since Space Giraffe that a game developer publicly masturbated in video game form? The amount of developer self pleasure being stroked into that game was enough batter to make 15 more octomoms.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:29PM The Wicker Man said

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God is dead...

castle is fun and looks good , but Braid was better.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2009 7:40AM Laser Sanchez said

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World 4 & 5 are pretty fucking innovative. Ending too.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2009 1:23PM Saria the Cat said

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@lasersanchez: Meh, the ending didn't blow my mind as much as it did others'. It seemed straight out of Memento, in my opinion. I wouldn't say the story was innovative -- it was a convoluted, poetic mess. Those worlds were pretty cool, though. Just not comfortable using the word "innovative" for any of this stuff.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:04PM player66 said

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Other than the busted online co-op, I thought Castle Crashers was one of the best XBLA games of the year. Braid? Maybe I'm a simpleton who "doesn't get it", but I played through the whole thing and it didn't make a positive impression on me.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2009 7:28AM (Unverified) said

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It was the "Epilogue" that killed what a great story it was. That stupid cloud level reading through all the books. It should have been over before that, the castle level. I think the story to that point was amazing.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2009 7:42AM Laser Sanchez said

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I wouldn't call you a simpleton for not caring for Braid, it just wasn't your thing.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:06PM Premature ejaculation man said

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Sure the online sucked, but Castle Crashers was best played with friends in the same room, like good games should.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:36PM The Wicker Man said

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I completely agree with you on that. I feel like that was always the best part of games and it just seemed to take to the back burner.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:57PM Vcize said

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With voice chat, it's just the same as having them in the same room.

This is my favorite part about modern gaming, the online experience brings back the old dorm room experience even though me and those buddies are thousands of miles apart now.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 11:07PM PoisonedAl said

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Still doesn't beat having people there. There's nothing like having your arse handed to you, by your button mashing little brother at Virtual Fighter, or sitting around a friends house with two playstations hooked together to play Wipeout 2097 while eating pizza.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:07PM (Unverified) said

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Well, I gotta agree. Even though I think Castle Crashers was broken as hell, I still enjoyed it much more than Braid. I finished Braid legit and found some of the sections to be interesting and/or amusing - but I don't think it deserves anywhere near the praise it got. It was simply OK in my book.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:07PM Haon said

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Played both but this is a well deserved win for Castle Crashers despite the multiplayer bugs. On a related note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0H33tJ5K60#t=1m8s
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:29PM (Unverified) said

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That episode HAWP really does sum up my feelings towards Braid, and is comically topical.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:07PM (Unverified) said

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Braid is one of the best games of recent years. Losing to Castle Crashers is bunk.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:08PM Mr Khan said

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Aside from the technical problems, i can see why. Castle Crashers includes online co-op (and local co-op, right?), makes it more playable, with higher replay value by far over Braid, which, being puzzle-centric and all, really hurts in the replayability department
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:59PM Vcize said

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There are more to games than just replayability. I had enough extra fun with Braid on the first run-through (though I did enjoy CC a lot as well) that CC could never make up for it no matter how much longer I was able to put into the game.

Truth be told though, I never really had the motivation to go through CC more than once even with the co-op.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:09PM erh said

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They are both good games, both deserve awards but only one can win. This Joystiq article seems like trolling.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:11PM Nytemare said

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Respectable list. Although I would've liked to see a variety of games on there, but oh well.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:14PM Rhamsey said

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how did braid loose out best graphics, it was a stunning game, and it should have gotten game of the year, i love castle crashers, but i couldnt even play it online for months without having it cut out on me.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:19PM Snowblind said

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Castle Crashers definitely won it for me. I haven't played it online, so I never experienced any of those problems, but playing it locally is some of the most fun I've had since Streets of Rage 2. I'd even go as far to call it better than games like Streets of Rage and Golden Axe.

I honestly never got into Braid at all.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:22PM Crusty Magic said

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HD Remix is amazing.

Hopefully Capcom recreates the success with remakes of their other past fighting titles.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:29PM Megadanxzero said

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SIGH. I'm getting so sick of these bullshit comments about Castle Crashers being 'unplayable' or whatever stupid exaggeration you decide to use. I ONLY played it online, with 4 people most of the time, and it would disconnect about 2/3 times per day, which when you consider the fact that I often played it from 10-12 in the morning till very late at night, is much fucking better than a game like GoW2 or even Halo 3 at times...

Now stop fucking bitching
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:02PM SheppyReturns said

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EDIT: Gratuitous.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 9:02PM Vcize said

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Dude, you really need to learn that your experience does not equal everyone else's experience.

The biggest annoyance for me (though the disconnects were there own fair share of annoying) was that about 20% of the time I played, when I logged back on to play again the next time my entire save game would be erased. All my animal and weapon unlocks were gone, all my characters were back to level 1, and only the first level was unlocked. It happened at least a half dozen times before I gave up and waited for the patch (and I did eventually play through the game after the patch FINALLY came).

But FFS man, if that's not completely and utterly broken, then nothing is. Your anecdotal evidence means shit to me because it didn't bring back my or any of my friend's game saves.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 9:58PM Megadanxzero said

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I find it hard to believe that bugs like that could be so common when I played it non-stop for months and never ran into any problems. It happened to one of my friends once, and he looked online and found a way to fix it within minutes... Try Google in future
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 10:21PM SheppyReturns said

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Actually the loss of gamesaves due to glitching was a very common complaint for the game. As was disconnects and completely resetting the game should a connection with the host occur. Of course your game save never REALLY was erased, instead like the infamous DOA4 game save bug, the system merely "hid" your game save so that the game couldn't see it. If you didn't turn your system off completely and load your save before logging into Live, the save could remain hidden. Of course a new save overrites said save.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169652
http://personalgaming.blogspot.com/2008/09/damn-castle-crashers-save-bug.html

Just think, top two responses on a google search for Castle Crashers Bug.


In other words, just because YOU were immune to the issues doesn't mean they didn't exist. For some, the issues were so common of an occurance that the patch which took three months was essentially the true launch of the game.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:33PM (Unverified) said

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eh I dont really like braid. I think it sucks imo

Good thing Castle Crashers FTW
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:38PM zkey14 said

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Braid is overrated.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 7:51PM (Unverified) said

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Oh Soulja boy, you make my brain bleed.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:06PM FraGNeM said

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Can't those of you who "don't like Braid" just admit that you don't like puzzle games or thinking in general?
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Posted: Mar 26th 2009 1:39AM Exo said

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I dont like braid because overly dramatic garbage pile. all the guy did was combine sands of time with mario and added in a little emo for good measure.

it should in no way be getting the praise it recived
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:11PM SheppyReturns said

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Actually, I enjoy puzzle games. And thinking is one of my favorite activities, next only to luring bums into busy streets with a trail of McDonalds french fries.

I didn't like Braid because I thought it was far too up it's own ass in pretentious bullshit. I'm sure if I slimed myself over Neo Genesis Evancryfor26episodes, Braid would be right up my alley. But as it stood, it walked the fine line between "making art" and "making a game." And while it remained sober enough to walk that line, just couldn't quite figure out what it wanted to be.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:13PM Saria the Cat said

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Aww, don't start with that shit. I liked Braid but what you're saying is the equivalent of, "Can't those of you who 'don't like Portal' just admit that you don't like puzzle games or thinking in general?"

Different strokes for different folks. Just because someone doesn't appreciate something as much as you do doesn't mean they're dumb.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:18PM Snowblind said

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I just recently finished playing through all four Moneky Island games, and am going to be getting the new Broken Sword DS game soon. :) I'll even be buying that Indiana Jones Wii game just for the Fate of Atlantis.

I can assure you that my dislike of Braid has nothing to do with the fact it's a puzzle game.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:04PM SheppyReturns said

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Maybe Braid won best innovation since it was the first time since Space Giraffe that a game developer publicly masterbated in video game form? The amount of developer self pleasure being stroked into that game was enough batter to make 15 more octomoms.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:05PM SheppyReturns said

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Ooops, wrong place.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:12PM MarkezJM said

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Eh, it's ok. When you're on a roll, you're on a roll.
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Posted: Mar 24th 2009 3:34AM Levi Partridge said

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Shep! Where have you been? I haven't seen you this vocal for a while.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 8:53PM (Unverified) said

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Not enough Rez on that list.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 9:22PM jynxycat said

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Good to see HDR getting the love it deserves.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 9:37PM AtomicPlayboy said

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"American youth spokesperson" - it's brilliant and subtle comedy like this that places Joystiq on top of my daily web food trough. Thank you.

As for the story, I would imagine that Braid would have fared better were it not for the self-importance of its intellectual poseur creator. This shouldn't affect the voting, as the games should be judged on their own merits, but I'm sure it did.
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2009 9:49PM Seroth said

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Disappointed that Bionic Commando didn't win anything. :( I think it's a better remake than SF2THDR, 'cause everything was remade in Rearmed, while SF2 just had redrawn graphics and gameplay tweaks (not to say it was a bad game).
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