GDC09: Train your eyes on 'The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks'

Wind Waker: "WAAAH! WE WANT A REAL OCARINA ZELDA SEQUEL! BITCH BITCH BITCH!"

Twilight Princess: "THIS IS TOO MUCH LIKE OCARINA! WAAAH! BITCH!"

Spirit Tracks: "THIS IS TOO DIFFERENT! WHY ISN'T IT LIKE THE OTHER ZELDAS?! WAAAAH BITCH BITCH BITCH!"

sorry bro i thought wind waker (and majora's mask for that matter) were awesome but hey i suppose it's easier to declare any criticism as "WAHHH BIIIIITCH" right?

You are whining and bitching. You've seen a couple random shots from a TV screen. Do you want me to rephrase how you're whining and bitching in different terms? I suppose I could.

"it's easier to declare any criticism as "WAHHH BIIIIITCH" right?"

Don't worry it's the typical nintendo fanboy response when bad news happens. It's like an automated response by now.

Everyone wanted a new wii zelda and they gave you this. It's perfectly ok to be upset.

It's not whining and bitching, it's legitimate criticism. Granted, we have very little to go on right now but I'm not liking what I see, and after feeling effectively robbed by my purchase of Phantom Hourglass, I won't be buying this.

Of course, the hardcore Nintendo-loyal are always quick to decry any criticism of Nintendo (even some as mild as mine) as effectively heresy, but most of us have figured out the direction Nintendo is headed in and have already decided how we feel about it. So frankly, it's a little ridiculous of you to engage in this internet argument bullshit decrying criticism as "WAHHH BITCH QQ MOAR NUB" (I'm paraphrasing here) when you've proven yourself to be capable of a bit more eloquence than that (when you're not saying creepy things about naked Peach).

I love my DS, and I think the Wii had some decent ideas that suffers from poor execution and a bit too much pandering. Nintendo is using a financially successful business model -- nobody can argue that -- but each individual has the right to have a different opinion about it and to decide whether or not they want to be a part of it. I didn't like TP, I hated PH, and I doubt I will feel any better about this game. So just learn to accept the rather fair opinions of others rather than, ironically, acting like a baby about it.

Don't worry, tmac. It applies to you, too. The one who always whines, "Zelda is always the same" and then ridicules it when it's different.


Of course, no one around here takes anything you say seriously anyway, so I suppose I just wasted about 10 seconds typing this response to you.

I think the WAHH BITCH comes from the majority of people who have this disdain for Nintendo and wouldn't really like any news from them. I mean come on now tmacairjordanjamescarterbryant2093842, you're one of the biggest Nintentrolls on this site - you really think you wouldn't have trolled if they did announce a Zelda Wii? You would have easily found something to bitch about or stupid to say about it.

Some people didn't like Phantom Hourglass - but a lot of people loved it, and I've wanted a followup to it for a while. Looking forward to it.

I would have much preferred a new wii zelda, even if it's the same thing again, to another boring handheld release.

tmac i would ask you to please refrain from agreeing with me, i don't want to be dragged down into the cesspool that you're in

You're entitled to your opinion, Uncontrol. But you're dismissing the game out of hand and calling it crap, despite knowing almost nothing about it. That's a rather trollish thing for you to say, if nothing else.
I have no problems with you disliking Phantom Hourglass. I completely understand why you probably didn't like it. But could YOU not also have been a tad more eloquent about it?

i didn't expect anyone to take my comment so seriously tbh

EDIT: There are ways to disagree with someone that do not involve this kind of vulgarity.

You need to control yourself and stop bitching.

I really liked Wind Waker, Twilight Princess was a big, "oh, whatever, it's more zelda" and phantom hourglass was "wtf is this shit, my wrist is squeeling in pain"

No, samfish's response was appropriate. Whatever Nintendo does, somebody's going to bitch about it. samfish was merely making that observation in a pointed way.

I hate this kind of crap whenever someone disagrees they are claim as fanboys who just hate for no reason, even though he has a legitimate OPINION, all yall Nintendo fanboys need calm down just cuz Nintendo disappointed you once again

"Whatever Nintendo does, somebody's going to bitch about it"

Correction: whatever *anybody* does (or doesn't do... or says or doesn't say) somebody's going to bitch about it. Bioshock needs widescreen, Ocarina of Time shouldn't be 3D, Sonic Adventure is a Mario 64 clone, Wii is just 4 SNESeses electrical-taped together, Ninjas are dumb, Mass Effect has a stupid inventory, RE5 is RE4, RE4 ISN'T RE1,2,3, Wind Waker is for babies, babies are a financial burden for teenage mothers, Twilight Princess 2 would've been better on Dreamcast 2 cuz of the sword controller, I like cheese... look, the point is: I don't know what the point is.

I think its perfectly fine to say you don't like the game before playing it. For me, I hated Phantom Hourglass. The biggest thing I didn't like about, was the controls. Are you going to somehow tell me that this game doesn't control like the predecessor with the touch screen? Of course not. This is why it's perfectly fair for me to form the opinion that I don't like the game before playing it.

"the lack of fast traveling"

You gotta be shitting me. Play the game properly, then come back and whine.



"and phantom hourglass was "wtf is this shit, my wrist is squeeling in pain""

lol oh wow. You have serious problems, how the fuck does does anyone hurt their wrists playing a fully one-handed DS game?

Your inbox is cursing you now...

i lol'd hard

yea im laughing with joy too.

Y'know tmac, there was time here on Joystiq where you made some thoughtful comments and did a good job at sounding rational. Why the hell are you trolling all the god damn time now?

If you can point out I'm wrong, when all you could see before this conference started across the internet was people begging for a new wii zelda then I'll admit I was trolling.

I have my reasons anyway ;)

I just don't know why anybody would expect big things like a new Wii Zelda to come out of GDC... those are generally left for E3. Not sure what internets you were looking at, I certainly didn't see them, but I probably spend a lot less time looking at/trolling gaming sites than others.

"before this conference started across the internet was people begging for a new wii zelda"

heh- and this is different from every Nintendo press conference, like...EVER?

"I have my reasons anyway"

What you mean there are other reasons besides acting like a 5 year old and having tantrums just because there are people who *gasp* like something that you don't?

"The train" is more than a gimmick, for my sex partners at least.

The Legend of Zelda: Back to the Future 3

@Doppler Bopper

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking it.

lol, i was thinking that too... "so does this train serve as a similar function to the ocarina?"

now that'd be kinda cool.

Did you take any solace in the shortcuts or was I the only one?

Oh yeah, and Phantom Hourglass was announced at GCD06, so this is pretty cool.

Of course, PH was also announced to be releasing late 2006, but we see what happened there... Hopefully Spirit Tracks is spared of any delays.

You, nobody is saying it is the worst Zelda game ever.

It is a terrible IDEA for a Zelda game though. Based on how soon its been since phantom hourglass and how this game appears to use the same engine and interface, the immediate logical conclusion is that this is a quick cash-in.

Plus, I don't remember fanboys asking for a new DS Zelda game, I have heard a lot of people wanting one that is Wii-specific though.

@Giroro
Majora's Mask was a quick cash in and it is regarded as the best Zelda to date by many fans.

Less time spent on the engine means more time fleshing out the world and story. Let's give the title time and see what happens.

You know what other Zelda game was made on the same engine, down to the reused NPC models?

Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

Or the boat in PH, but with even less control :{

Yes, just like the boat...since we know EXACTLY how the train system will work already.