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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:05AM Marius said

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Why does my PS3 feel betrayed?
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:43AM SoCoolCurt said

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because it has been sir, because it has been.

i think they mixed up some number cause the PS3 was the one supposed to receive a price drop about now. i already have a PS3 so price isn't a problem for me (unless we're talking about install base=support) but Sony must really be hurting try this to save from dropping the PS3 price. here's hoping they turn things around.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:51AM Marius said

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Edit:[I been banned for trolling, Have a nice day!]
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 5:53AM (Unverified) said

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It shouldn't. It's receiving great support, great games, extra features with each firmware. It's selling nearly 4:1 vs errorbox in Japan and is very likely to still be working 100% properly, no RRoD, E74 or anything.

The thing is, that our Western culture drives us to buy cheap, be tight and avoid spending extra on better products. This has given the cheap ass errorbox a greater STARTING userbase, but not one that will last.

There will be no price drop, not for a long time, the PS3 is brilliant VALUE. It's not cheap, but it's not cheap. Get it? You really do get what you pay for.

I hope Sony do get a little of the Wii market here, even if just to turn some of the casual wagglers to some proper games, a getway drug. Plus all revenue for the PS brand is a good thing. It's all one brand remember. Sony have multiple income streams for the PS brand. MS only have the one, hence the rapage of their users.

The PS2 is showing off it's 10 year life cycle now. Just to show you where your PS3 will still be in 6/7 years. (it's about 3/4 years old right?) Where's the good old Xbox now? You know, the one that didn't have nearly a 70% failure rate....
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 8:13AM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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Mmmm. I love the smell of trolls in the morning. It really gets me going.

"The thing is, that our Western culture drives us to buy cheap, be tight and avoid spending extra on better products"
Maybe that's because a majority of people don't really see the point in paying $400 for a console, especially now with everyone down in the dumps thanks to the economy.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 9:15AM Jack Tretton said

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"Sony will have to work...to keep the PS2 relevant in a Wii world."

As for keeping the PS3 relevant in a Wii world...yeeeaaahhh, I'm gonna need you go ahead and come in tomorrow. So if you could be here around nine, that would be great.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 10:53AM Marius said

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Haha I wasnt banned that was a very lame April Fools joke
Anyway I dont care my PS3 has a PS2 inside :P
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 11:57AM Jack Tretton said

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Sexualchocolate, your time would be better spent commenting in one of today's (or any day's) myriad troll articles at Kotaku. It's encouraged there.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:08AM AUserName said

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Year of the PS2 confirmed.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:37AM SoCoolCurt said

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April Fool's Day already?
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:09AM s ls said

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make more greatest hit packs!!! I got my MGS collection and Devil May Cry now give me a Jax n Daxter and Sly Cooper 3 pack.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:11AM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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"Sly Cooper 3 pack"

What he said! While you are at get jumping on a PSP Sly Cooper.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:23AM TacoHell said

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Or a Sly Cooper for the PS3, or just a Sly Cooper collection! ANYTHING SLY COOPER!....Yes I'm a fan of that series.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:33AM s ls said

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yea thats what I meant a sly cooper collection for $30 just like the other triple pack of games like gta, dmc, mgs, wwe, hitman etc i've seen a bunch but Sony needs to get on board with these triple packs
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 11:47AM Sly C said

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*ahem*
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:10AM zkey14 said

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The PS2 owns.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:10AM (Unverified) said

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A system that's not receiving new software, receives no advertising at all, and is considered inferior to a better version on the market (PS3) is obviously not going to sell over the Wii, no matter what the price. Sony are trying to make the best of a really bad situation (being stuck with an overpriced box in a recession) by refocusing on the PS2 but this won't work. That said, those who haven't played the PS2's library of games should run out an grab one - possibly the best software library of all time, and easily blows any one console this gen out of the water. The very best games on the gamecube were a little better, in my humble opinion, but there were 5-10 times the number of AA or AAA games on the PS2.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:17AM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I don't know that people are expecting it to outsell the Wii or take a large chunk of its install base. I think they mean the same consumer buying a Wii would be similar to the person who would also want a PS2 at this point. The PS2 remains the best budget entry console for new gamers or people with limited disposable income. Even if you disregard hardware price no one can deny the large catalogue of games that can be had for good prices.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:02AM PR0F3TA said

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besides the fact that your argument sounds like a classic Nintendo Fanboy rant the GameCube sucked, no game on the gamecube was ever better then anything the PS2 had.

Sony isn't doing this because of a bad situation they are doing this because the PS2 is NINE YEARS OLD!.... that, and everyone has one already. Its about damn time it had a price cut.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:11AM Roto13 said

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"besides the fact that your argument sounds like a classic Nintendo Fanboy rant the GameCube sucked, no game on the gamecube was ever better then anything the PS2 had."

You're in no position to be calling anyone a fanboy.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:23AM MrU2 said

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@ PR0F3TA: So when you say "no game on the gamecube was ever better then anything the PS2 had", I'm guessing you're saying that every other Coraline and Miami Vice on the PS2 was better than every other Metroid Prime and Legend of Zelda on the Game Cube. So you could infer from your statement that, every PS2 game, no matter how crappy it was, was better than every single high-scoring Game Cube game.

I'll give you a moment to think about what you have said.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 7:54AM Mr Khan said

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But the GameCube had Metroid Prime. No system before or since has been able to match that

:P
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 9:52AM chdude3 said

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@PR0F3TA:

For your Gamecube argument, I have two words for you: Eternal Darkness.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:11AM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I can understand what's being said but even if it does steal some marketshare it won't anything massive worth noticing. If they had some kind of motion controller and released all the 1st party PSP & PSN games on the PS2 (like they did with syphon filter dark mirror) they might pick up some extra consumers. For the most part the PS2 is for it's back catalogue and the occasional JRPG like Persona 4.

It's the best budget console on the market and the mental stigma of being listed under $100 could have a profound effect on a certain sect of new & casual gamers.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:49AM MarkezJM said

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I'll agree with your last point, but still think in the big scheme of things it'll be realllly marginal, if noticeable at all. The only area where I can see it making a difference is for someone looking to buy a console as a gift for someone else.

Maybe I'm picking up on something and making too big a deal of it, but the way a few items are framed:

"SCEA's John Koller spoke to GameDaily Biz about the new price, admitting that the Wii and PS2 will have "similar customers.""

The author's creative, repeated use of the word 'admit', sounds pretty purposefully belittling to me.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:29PM J Acheson said

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If they really wanted to try and compete head-to-head with the Wii, they would bundle the EyeToy with every PS2. That's your innovative motion-sensing controller right there. Then put out some new first-party EyeToy games to go with.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:11AM kojo87 said

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i fail to see how a $30 price drop will suddenly make a 9 year old system catch people's attention again and steer them away from a system that costs over twice as much but has still been selling like it cures cancer.

dear Sony, please remove head from ass in order to see reality.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:12AM Ignatius said

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Morbo is displeased with Sony's comments!
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:21AM Deck said

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Its underneath the 100 $ threshold. Its different psychologically even though it may only be $1 below.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:36AM Cash9007 said

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Thanks for saying what I was thinking. I'm sure this 30 dollar price drop is a big deal in their book, but not so much for me, as I picked up a PS2 slim, two controllers, two memory cards, the dvd remote, and 25 assorted games, for 30 bucks at a garage sale last summer as a gift for my girlfriend's little brother. Let me tell ya, when a 9 year old looks at you like you just took a giant shit in the middle of his birthday cake, that'll show you the value of the PS2 among today's youth. Had to buy the kid a Wii for Christmas just to save face, as I went from being "the coolest boyfriend my sister's ever had," to "dude who faked me out with a 10 year old POS when I thought I was getting a Wii."
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 10:11AM (Unverified) said

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I think that 9 year old is going to have lots of problems in life if receiving a gift is like havign a shit taken on his cake. If you reward those actions at this age hide the guns when he's older.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:34PM (Unverified) said

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Hey, at least Sony is praising its competition and not endlessly and moronically bashing it like the losers at Microsoft.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 4:09PM Cash9007 said

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@Draco

If it had just been him, I would have felt the same way you did. Instead, it was an entire room full of 8-9 year olds giving me the stink eye. He acted gracious and polite afterwards, and didn't pull a "wii christmas kid" moment on me, but the fact that the box remained stacked in the garage untouched months later was what solidified the fact that the PS2 = shit to anyone who didn't grow up with it. As for his initial reaction, dude, he's a nine year old who got excited over potentially getting the hottest new toy in the world that his own parents can't afford for him, and got jipped. His reaction was a burn, but at least it was honest, unlike all the adult aged fakers I deal with on a daily basis. I know you look back at your childhood like it was some charmed period of innocent perfection, but I'm willing to bet if I asked your folks, they'd be happy to reflect on the more then occasional occurrence where you acted like a complete spoiled shit. Lucky for you, and me, youtube didn't exist when we were that age.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:13AM player66 said

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I'm sorry, but the Wii is wining over the mass-casual market with it's popularity. PS2s have already sold to that market. They've hit their saturation point. I don't see how many more PS2s there are to sell, even in this down economy. Also, PS2 software isn't on store shelves in the kind of quantities Sony would need to make this a real success. Who cares if you have a library of thousands of games if Wal-Mart only sells 20 PS2 (1-3 year old) titles?
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:33AM MyAbsolution said

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Yep, its actually beyond market saturation here in NA. You hit the nail on head there.

The point its at now is its post-twilight, year-over-year sales have dropped dramatically and software sales aren't even relevant besides madden games.

I don't think this 30 dollars off will do any boost, even the slightest in any way, to Ps2 sales.

The Wii's market share is drastic, and I don't think any console will ever truely challenge that for a long long time. Price difference, generation boundaries, or what have you.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 3:24PM Kodros said

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Dunno, but someone is buying 50-70k PS2's a week. And I really doubt that most of them are PS3/360 owners.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:13AM Ignatius said

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"Nintendo has done a fantastic job of capturing young and female..."

SCEA has done a fantastic job of painting a creepy picture.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:22AM SpeeGold said

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You're just accusing everyone of being a creep today, aren't you? :-P
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:25AM Ignatius said

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And on the same subject, surprisingly.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 2:40AM kojo87 said

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btw i am well aware that gasoline can explode :P
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:14AM Giroro said

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Oh, yeah $30 price drop, can't beat that.

Let me tell you, I am running to the nearest walmart. So. goddamn. fast.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:21AM Cash9007 said

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SCEA: Pigs could fly.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:27AM (Unverified) said

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ok, honestly. What games, besides Wii Fit, really benefited from motion control(Wii Fit barely even counts). And how many great games does the Wii have compared to the PS2. I honestly was VERY excited about the Wii (first "next-gen console I purchased) but it has really let me down. Mario Galaxy was really fun, but it wasn't among the best I've played this gen) and Zelda was fun, but the GC version was better in my opinion. If it weren't for the gimmicky appeal, then PS2 should still be smoking the Wii.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:13AM Roto13 said

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Mario Galaxy most certainly was one of the best games you've played this generation because it's one of the best games ever made.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:38AM Vidikron said

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Meh... Galaxy didn't do much for me. It has some truly great level design, but I couldn't finish. I don't know if it was the stupid story and overall goofy setting or what, but I just lost the drive half way through. The game just didn't feel cohesive.... more like random levels of nonsense.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 1:46AM Dopple Boppler said

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You bring up a good point; most of the best games on the Wii could have been done without motion controls. Sure, Mario Galaxy was vastly improved because of them, but at its core it could have been done without them. The same can be said for MadWorld, even though I think there's a big difference there, because MadWorld without motion controls would just not be the same thing. I still think Metroid Prime 3 is the best evidence to support motion controls, which is kind of sad seeing as how it's over a year and half old now.

But on the flipside, most of the people who are buying the Wii, and who Sony is targeting with this pricedrop (the "casuals", if you must), don't care about triple-A titles and whether or not games benefit from waggle or not. So really, I guess it's all a moot point, making my whole post even mooter.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 11:58AM Da Largest said

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Mario Galaxy is really great the first one or two times you play it. Unlike with 64 or even Sunshine, though, it's really tough to build up the drive to play it again. Experimentation is not rewarded. The levels are straightforward to the point that playing them again borders on tedium. It's just a really tough game to get back into, and that keeps it from being one of my 'favorite games ever'. It's polished, it's fun, and it's soundtrack is up there with the greats, but it just doesn't have the longevity of a lot of games out there.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:37AM (Unverified) said

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They're just covering up what was a required price drop with PR speak meant to make everyone think that now that the system is an entire thirty dollars cheaper, it's suddenly relevant again. The Wii isn't popular because it's cheap, it's because of it's absolute mass-market appeal. The PS2 had that, and does to a point, but I think it's just about reached saturation.

I mean really, with how few worth-while releases come out for it, why would someone choose it over a system that's actively supported by releases that aren't ports or movie and TV licenses? I know there is a massive catalog of older PS2 games, and I love my PS2 slightly more then any current-gen system I own(all of them), but most people don't think of that.

I'll get a slim with no power brick when it drops below 75$, but till then it's good 'ol PS2 phat. It's hard to beat how absolutely portable a slim is, and with a ridiculously big catalog of games it's perfect for trips. I don't see the PS2 lasting till the end of this year though, it's already been in decline for months and hasn't received an original release for near six months that wasn't a re-subtitled port. Soon it will only be supported by JRPGs, what with Japan's refusal to move to next-gen systems.

I honestly wouldn't care that much if a JRPG with PS2 quality graphics came out for 360, it's just a nice little perk of next-gen power. When retro-remakes that look good, but not great, is acceptable, why not just have original games that aren't absolutely graphically gorgeous? Persona 4 looks pretty good for a PS2 game, and I'd love if it were a PS3 or Wii game, as long as there isn't any pigeon-holed waggle to escape battles or something.
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Posted: Apr 1st 2009 12:40AM (Unverified) said

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The Gamecube has been 100 bucks for sometime now and is technically superior (specs) to the PS2. Yes games are still being published for it, but I don't see why the Wii demographic would even debate against the PS2.

This is an attempt to make a meaningless price-drop relevant.
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Posted: Apr 2nd 2009 12:51AM Jonny said

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Gamecubes are 30 used.

They dont make new ones anymore.
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