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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:03PM Levi said

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He's right. Gaming used to be about good games. Now, gamers seem to rate how good games are just based on sales and metacritic ratings. It's gay.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:22PM (Unverified) said

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uh, the same happened even during the Nintendo vs Sega generations....it is far from new, its just that now it is more noticeable
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:43PM Ridgecity said

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it wasn't like that during Sega Vs Nintendo. During that time it was about who has the best games, and of course Sega's faster processor, but now it's about what game sells the most, and of course no one accepts Wii Play, Wii Fit, POkemon and the Sims being the best sellers ever.

It's really hard to please the geeks. I wish they would all go back to playing Dungeons & Dragons during lunch break.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 6:34PM Levi said

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Noshino, how old are you dude? Serious question, because the gaming population and the subject matter is completely 100% different now than it was back during Nintendo vs Sega. I was there dude. Sooooo different. Back then, it was Mario vs Sonic. Blast Processing was never brought up in gaming debates. Back then, it was about the games, and the iconic gaming figures.

There are similarities, like how Master Chief is as much a gaming figure as Sonic or Mario back in the day, but it still comes down to arguing sales figures far too often, and when it comes to games, it's all about Metacritic scores. A lot of the games I've liked over the years would have scored low on Metacritic and would have been lambasted for their sales numbers, but since that wasn't the center of discussion, I wasn't turned off by them. I just tried them for myself instead.

The gaming community is faaaarrrrr different now than it was even 5 years ago let alone 15.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 7:35PM Premature ejaculation man said

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Your point was lost on me as soon as you claimed that it is "gay". Think about what you're saying.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 7:44PM Levi said

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Hey sorry if I offeded you dude, didn't mean it like that. That's just common language where I am. Not against the gays or anything, it's just an accepted synonym for sucky where I live.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 8:27PM Hinchy said

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@Levi: Ignorance is bliss.
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Posted: Apr 7th 2009 2:38PM pranaferox said

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Since your choice of language leads me to believe you're at most 17 years old, I'm not sure you're the best person to comment on the gaming culture of 15 years ago.
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Posted: Apr 7th 2009 2:53PM Levi said

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Good thing you're fucking retarded and you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm more qualified to talk about the 8-bit era than most of you kids. I'm in my 20's.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:06PM JncoMick said

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This post was win.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:11PM MowDownJoe said

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Lugwig's posts often are.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:22PM Sly C said

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ludwig knows how to make a monday bearable.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:36PM (Unverified) said

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That post was inspired by Double Fine's job page. Read the "We are always recruiting everybody" section....I wanna be a bunny....

http://www.doublefine.com/news.php/jobs
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:38PM Kamizar said

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You're so Sly...
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:06PM Grand Kerfuffle said

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Ludwig, I love you.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:07PM MystileArmor said

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You really shouldn't drink on the job, Ludwig...

Who am i kidding, I envy you!
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:09PM Bananarama said

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Get out of my mind Kietzmann!
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:10PM samfish said

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If us fans don't worry about sales, than WHO WILL, I ask you? Who will?
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 6:02PM Sly C said

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publishers?
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:10PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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Its true, its only when gamers get older they forget about fun and start worrying about sales and perception, when I was younger, I played any game, yeah, there were loads of crappy ones, but it was just a fun experience finding that all out for myself then laughing at the game after shoving it in a corner.

Now, admittedly, like many, its all about how the game performed etc, not to decipher whether I buy the game or not, I still don't go by others opinions purely, but you can't help but be sucked into the sales figures, positive / negative reviews, ratings, console selling power etc etc.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:14PM 4ham said

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You should be saying when gamers hit adolescence that they worry about sales and perceptions. After awhile you just stop caring again and want to enjoy whatever you're playing since you don't have the time you used to anymore.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:20PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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Very true and valid point, I guess the only reason sales comes into prospect is because its available, eg: Joystiq, I wouldn't go out of my way otherwise to look for the sales figures of a game like I would reviews, usually don't find the sales that important.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:14PM Kamizar said

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Maybe Tim, maybe. However, it sucks because sales numbers determine if a game gets a sequel these days, not if its actually good.

PHANTOM DUST 2 WILL NEVER HAPPEN DESPITE MY TEARS!
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:14PM Ethan said

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The worrying makes fans create over-hype, which stops the less bothered people from judging the game on it's own merit.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:52PM Haggard said

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The best run-on sentences involve crapping yourself.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:53PM Haggard said

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Totally didn't click reply to you, sorry.

Was talking to the guy below this!
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:15PM DVersion said

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That was one of the best run-on sentences I've ever read ever like in the history of the world and I've been almost everywhere and every major geographical area and I've read a whole bunch of run-on sentences even the one in the Greek newspaper that talked about whales because apparently whales are making a come back as their birth rates have begun to grow again at least according to many marine biologists many of whom also say that dolphins are some of the smartest animals in the world.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:18PM The Kong said

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It's pretty funny reading run on sentences from other people because they make me laugh almost as hard as that time i crapped my pants from reading this post because of the hilarious run on sentence which was quite awesome if you ask me and I think Mr. Keitzman should earn a joystiq award for doing such wonders with the english language that I speak Oh so well I love this site
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 8:19PM (Unverified) said

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Yes.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:16PM rudolphe said

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I agree.

Just like Sony Fans get all mad at the PS3's abysmal sales. The difference is publishers don't give a fuck about Sony and that's why the system has near 0 third party support and not a single third party exclusive to date.

Guys, don't get angry, just spend all your days in your half-assed version of Second Life they call Home buying clothing and pictures for your "phat pad".
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:19PM The Kong said

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umm...wrong
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:22PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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Nah, actually, its usually the fanboy loosers like yourself that pay the most attention to sales figures, the rest of us just like to play games you see :)
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 6:04PM Hyams said

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"not a single third party exclusive to date."

Never heard of Metal Gear Solid 4, eh?

Or Valkyria Chronicles?

Or Yakuza 3?

Or Final Fantasy Versus 13?
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 6:23PM Sly C said

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i could spend my time pointing out all the retarded things you just said but i don't feel like wasting my time on idiot scum.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 6:33PM dogmaticatheist said

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Fanboys are like creationists. They think that you can repeat a false statement until it becomes true.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 9:03PM manyquestions said

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Fanboys are annoying, but that was uncalled-for.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 9:36PM Laser Sanchez said

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PS3 has decent third party support. It's getting most of the awesome games.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 11:06PM MarkezJM said

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lol @ you sly, same scenario with me when I ripped someone and now someone called you out for going too far :P

Dear Rudolphe, I don't understand the satisfaction you got there, but hope you get banned for coming right out and admitting you're a douchey troll.
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Posted: Apr 7th 2009 1:45AM rudolphe said

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it's just funny when people read something ridiculous and retarded and instead of ignoring it go ahead and add a comment
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:17PM Cap Morgan said

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I waited to post on this until it's metacritic ratings scored high enough.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:19PM Burritoclock said

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I disagree, I don't worry about sells to the exclusion of everything else, and it doesn't effect my ability to have fun with a game.

I loved Psychonauts, it was fun, however I wish it had sold better, not because it would make me enjoy the game more, and not really to help out Mr. Schafer, but because if original, fun, creative games sell well, more of them get made.

If the new, original, creative, fun games sell poorly, then we are 1000x more likely to get Final Fantasy XXXIIII, Madden 2112, Call of Duty 17, Missile Command Retro evolved X, etc. Not that there is anything wrong with sequels, but there should be room for new ideas to also be marketable.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:44PM nsdcx said

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..not trying to be a dick, but it would be XXXIV, not XXXIIII.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 7:45PM Vaitork said

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Well, Psychonauts didn't do exactly well in sales, yet Mr. Schafer has BrĂ¼tal Legend in store, and so far it would seem that it will be fitting in the "original, fun, creative games" description. It's not like low sales will stop the man from making awesome games.

If your worry is about the frequency of these jewels, then... Well, yeah, I suppose you have a point, though I'm the kind of gamer that, instead of playing good games one after the other, prefers to wait a few months for the next awesome, GOTY-level videogame.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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Punctuation is for suckers. Sentence paragraphs FTW
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:25PM aristokrat said

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How's it going Thomas Pynchon? I see you hiding under that question mark paper bag hat.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 6:06PM Sly C said

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so you're a sucker?
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 6:09PM (Unverified) said

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Obviously.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:21PM dantebk said

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Yes, fans do worry too much about sales. You know who else worries too much about sales? Video game blogs. Just sayin'.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:26PM (Unverified) said

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This was probably one of the more interesting posts I've read in a while. The author must be in some kind of creative mood.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2009 5:25PM jhowlett said

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i didn't care for psychonauts, i am interested in his next game though
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