Now, let the comment debate over why Killzone 2 should have sold more (or less) commence!
Now, let the comment debate over why Killzone 2 should have sold more (or less) commence!
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:30PM Vegeta has a ps3 said
Sounds like pretty good news. I have been slowly getting more interested in the game and I always hope it's in one of the demo kiosks at the local GS I go to. Maybe one day when I get a ps3 I'll be able to try it.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 3:22PM kentuckyfried said
how could one mix up Dead Space with Killzone 2? LOL.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 4:16PM anonymack said
At Mister Bogus:
I disagree. I love COD4 and Resistance 2 and I can't stand KZ2 at all. The aiming is just completely off and I hate it. It feels so unresponsive. After trying to play the game on and offline several times I gave up completely, and now I just play Vegas 2.
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I disagree. I love COD4 and Resistance 2 and I can't stand KZ2 at all. The aiming is just completely off and I hate it. It feels so unresponsive. After trying to play the game on and offline several times I gave up completely, and now I just play Vegas 2.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 4:33PM anonymack said
People keep telling me it's realistic. I haven't aimed a real gun in real life, but if paintball guns count, I don't really lag when I want to aim, I just turn and aim. There's always a delay when I aim in KZ2. And aiming with the sights is much harder than aiming with hip fire, which also doesn't make sense to me.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 5:47PM SpartacusMagnus said
Vegeta,
Don't look forward to seeing it at a kiosk. Both KZ2 kiosks I've seen were set up horribly. Sure they had a Sony "full HD" LCD screen hooked up to it, but they must've been using the stock composite cable (seriously Sony, stupid move), because it looked like garbage. With the biggest selling point being the visuals on this game (many sites admitted the game was otherwise pretty mediocre), I couldn't find much to like in my 20-30 minutes of time with it.
Still, I'm on the verge of purchasing a PS3, so I might give KZ2 another chance.
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Don't look forward to seeing it at a kiosk. Both KZ2 kiosks I've seen were set up horribly. Sure they had a Sony "full HD" LCD screen hooked up to it, but they must've been using the stock composite cable (seriously Sony, stupid move), because it looked like garbage. With the biggest selling point being the visuals on this game (many sites admitted the game was otherwise pretty mediocre), I couldn't find much to like in my 20-30 minutes of time with it.
Still, I'm on the verge of purchasing a PS3, so I might give KZ2 another chance.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 6:08PM anonymack said
@ Vidikron: Yea I know it's been patched but I've yet to pick it up again for myself. I'm very hesitant because I was always frustrated when I played it originally.
@ Mister Bogus: From watching my roomate play hours on end, I've seen my share of frag fests in KZ2, and it's sometimes worst since it'll be 5 or 6 people throwing them right near each other.but granted no one chucks grenades across the map in KZ2 like they do in COD4
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@ Mister Bogus: From watching my roomate play hours on end, I've seen my share of frag fests in KZ2, and it's sometimes worst since it'll be 5 or 6 people throwing them right near each other.but granted no one chucks grenades across the map in KZ2 like they do in COD4
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:30PM Hunter2223 said
It could sell more if the PS3 was Cheaper!
FLAME ON!!!!
*flies away
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FLAME ON!!!!
*flies away
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:47PM Burritoclock said
butthole face: I think I have a new favorite insult, it's about time I replaced douche
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:47PM copa said
Please don't hurt my vagina face, but hunter2223 appears to be correct.
The Killzone 2 sales numbers are very good, but they are not affecting the PS3 sales numbers. PS3 has now had five straight months over year-over-year sales declines in North America, while the Wii and the XBox 360 are experiencing sales increases.
That means Killzone 2 is selling deservedly well to existing PS3 owners, but it is not getting new people to buy the PS3. It's going to take a price cut to do that.
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The Killzone 2 sales numbers are very good, but they are not affecting the PS3 sales numbers. PS3 has now had five straight months over year-over-year sales declines in North America, while the Wii and the XBox 360 are experiencing sales increases.
That means Killzone 2 is selling deservedly well to existing PS3 owners, but it is not getting new people to buy the PS3. It's going to take a price cut to do that.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 3:02PM (Unverified) said
Why are gamers so obsessed with sales figures and product analysis? Just buy the fucking system you want, play the games you want, and shut the hell up. I honestly can't believe what I'm seeing. Rather than play games and have fun, the majority of you choose to bicker about "omgz 360z sold waaeey more gaymz than the ps3!!!111one."
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 3:23PM kentuckyfried said
A price differential of $100 is peanuts in the big picture.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 3:27PM Hunter2223 said
I prefer Douche Weasel
first
"Or if people who complained about a price drop saved some cash or made some money"
Son My mommy doesn't buy my electronics for me... I don't know you, and won't make any assumptions about your income levels, so don't be so stupid as to make them about mine.
Second.
At least someone understands basic economics.
Let's see... say that PS3 has an install base of 10mil (Guessing, I know it's higher but I'm making the math easy on myself)
So they sell 500k copies of a game that right at 5% attach...
Now let's make the PS3 cheaper meaning more people would see perceived value in owning it and there's suddenly 20 million PS3's in the wild.
Keeping the same 5% attach that's 1 million copies sold.
So... Dumbass PS3 fanboys who are either still in school or *shudder* recently graduated meaning you know nothing... A cheaper PS3 means more PS3's in the wild means More copies of games sold.
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first
"Or if people who complained about a price drop saved some cash or made some money"
Son My mommy doesn't buy my electronics for me... I don't know you, and won't make any assumptions about your income levels, so don't be so stupid as to make them about mine.
Second.
At least someone understands basic economics.
Let's see... say that PS3 has an install base of 10mil (Guessing, I know it's higher but I'm making the math easy on myself)
So they sell 500k copies of a game that right at 5% attach...
Now let's make the PS3 cheaper meaning more people would see perceived value in owning it and there's suddenly 20 million PS3's in the wild.
Keeping the same 5% attach that's 1 million copies sold.
So... Dumbass PS3 fanboys who are either still in school or *shudder* recently graduated meaning you know nothing... A cheaper PS3 means more PS3's in the wild means More copies of games sold.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 3:58PM (Unverified) said
Am I crazy for loving the phrase "punches you in your vagina face"? I am so working that phrase into a conversation today.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 4:32PM (Unverified) said
think about it this way, yes what's in the box is more expensive with ps3, but theres more in that box. besides that my brother had 360 for a year n a half, n in that time spent over $1000 for 3 different consoles the shortest lifespan of which was 2 weeks, n the last elite he bought was 6 months old n got 3rod, he traded it the next day to some poor sap who wanted to "upgrade" to a 360 from ps3. so in 18 months he WOULD have ended up spending about 1500 if he'd stayed with 360. yeah sounds cheaper to me!
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 4:59PM (Unverified) said
also, im not a fanboy, seriously i know NO ONE that has 360 that hasnt had multiple consoles because of hardware failures. I even had one once, lasted 2 weeks. when it comes down to it theres good games for both, i mean the games are made by the developers not the cosole manufacturers, with certain technical exceptions, so fighting over a console based on the games is really just stupid, say one is better than the other due to the hardware itself. personally if im going to be spending hundreds of dollars whether its 400 or 500, i want what im buying to last for the long haul, not just two weeks, or 6 months, or even just 2 years for that matter. until 360 id NEVER had a console die on me EVER no matter how long id had it n ive been around since nes, to me that says something. I understand standing behind the games you have available, but how can you stand behind what is probably the lowest quality piece of mass market electronics ever sold? thats like saying a yugo is the best car ever because you put high quality gas in it. i just dont get it.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 5:55PM SpartacusMagnus said
Or you could jump through a few hoops at sonystyle.com for your own "pricebreak".
That's what I did and will be able to buy a brand new 80Gb PS3 with 2 DS3 controllers and free shipping for $199.
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That's what I did and will be able to buy a brand new 80Gb PS3 with 2 DS3 controllers and free shipping for $199.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:30PM (Unverified) said
guess all those 1 million EU pre orders didnt sell
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:33PM Solid Jackal said
did u read the article? it talks about SCEA not SCEE
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 3:06PM JuanLovesHorror said
Fastest selling first party game ever for the ps3 period..that's it doesn't matter if it was 1 copy or 500k copies it accomplished something no other first party game did.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:41PM (Unverified) said
OMG ITS SPRINKLES! OMG OMG OMG OMG ! CAN I HAVE YOUR AUTOGRAPH??!?!?!?!? *faints*
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:42PM Duke said
I love it, yesterday I was a 360 fanboy and today I'm a PS3 fanboy. Hey dumbasses, if you don't read the site each day you probably shouldn't assume people are fanboys.
By the way, if you played the game you would see it's quite good.
PS - Cosmo, thanks for giving me a good chuckle.
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By the way, if you played the game you would see it's quite good.
PS - Cosmo, thanks for giving me a good chuckle.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 6:26PM Larz said
I'm soo bored with the FPS genre, but even I agree it's a good game. For any FPS to get approval from me, it's gotta be really really good. For reference, Halo doesn't make the cut. Resistance doesn't either.
After playing a bit of multiplayer, I think KZ2 is more than marginally better than CoD4. CoD4 has a consistently high framerate, but the level design asthetic was horrendous IMO. Plus the perks felt so cheap and annoying. The objective switching in KZ2 is pretty cool too.
I agree the controls do suck a bit though. But much like the 360 controller, once I'm playing I forget about it. Also, game filtering needs a lot of work.
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After playing a bit of multiplayer, I think KZ2 is more than marginally better than CoD4. CoD4 has a consistently high framerate, but the level design asthetic was horrendous IMO. Plus the perks felt so cheap and annoying. The objective switching in KZ2 is pretty cool too.
I agree the controls do suck a bit though. But much like the 360 controller, once I'm playing I forget about it. Also, game filtering needs a lot of work.
Posted: Apr 10th 2009 12:09AM Courtney said
Okay, I'll finally bite: Who is Sprinkles? I've been around for awhile and thought I knew most of the 'stiq in-jokes, but this is one I've never figured out.
I know Sprinkles refers to some rabid fanboy, but I've never picked up the backstory on why he/she/it is referenced so often.
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I know Sprinkles refers to some rabid fanboy, but I've never picked up the backstory on why he/she/it is referenced so often.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:31PM (Unverified) said
As usual Sony doesn't know how to advertise their games well. Instead of showing that terrible ad, they should have shown in game footage (and even labeled it that if necessary) and I guarantee it would have sold more than it did. The game in motion looks far better than that stupid bullet ad.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:41PM (Unverified) said
wow you are a moron huh.that is in game footage. stupid ass xbox-please-fix-me fanboys. i know ur junk of a console cant push those visuals because itll go on fire.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:44PM (Unverified) said
Lol you see that everyone? He called me an xbox fanboy
Listen, I've obviously played it more than you, because that's not in game footage. That scene does not take place in the game at all. It may be using the in game engine, but it's made like a cutscene. You have to show the common masses what it looks like when you actually play it. They don't need to hide this game behind CG or cutscenes like they do with everything else.
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Listen, I've obviously played it more than you, because that's not in game footage. That scene does not take place in the game at all. It may be using the in game engine, but it's made like a cutscene. You have to show the common masses what it looks like when you actually play it. They don't need to hide this game behind CG or cutscenes like they do with everything else.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:50PM WiredKnight said
Moptimus you give knowledge too much credit. It's not even "knowledge4lfe" it's knowledge4lfe."
And what the hell knowledge, tmac didn't even say anything about xbox.
I agree about the ad. I know they were going for something dramatic, but looking at a bullet in a firefight just screams generic. The trailer kinda reminded me of the commericals for Black, and look how well that did :\
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And what the hell knowledge, tmac didn't even say anything about xbox.
I agree about the ad. I know they were going for something dramatic, but looking at a bullet in a firefight just screams generic. The trailer kinda reminded me of the commericals for Black, and look how well that did :\
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 2:56PM Vegeta has a ps3 said
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Tmac.
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