Now, let the comment debate over why Killzone 2 should have sold more (or less) commence!
Now, let the comment debate over why Killzone 2 should have sold more (or less) commence!
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 5:05PM (Unverified) said
i still haven't bought my copy yet. i'm just sick of space marines. in the far future i shall get though.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 5:09PM Deaths Hand said
"MY PEOPLE..."
Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:11AM Deaths Hand said
Each time you launch KZ2, the first words spoken are Visari's solemn "My people..."
I play alot.
psn: pizznaddy
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I play alot.
psn: pizznaddy
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 5:29PM (Unverified) said
Congrats to SCEA and GG.. but when you compare those numbers to the 360, Wii, and even PC it seems completely underwhelming...
Almost every triple A exclusive (even some of the more obscure games) on the said platforms sold 2-3x that amount in the same amount of time.
I know, it doesn't have the same market share, but Halo last generation proved that you don't need marketshare to have a amazingly selling game.
Anyways, back to playing Killzone 2.
Almost every triple A exclusive (even some of the more obscure games) on the said platforms sold 2-3x that amount in the same amount of time.
I know, it doesn't have the same market share, but Halo last generation proved that you don't need marketshare to have a amazingly selling game.
Anyways, back to playing Killzone 2.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 5:30PM Shagittarius said
Moptimus I'm not trying to start shit here, but in 3 weeks Madworld according to VGChartz...has only sold 68,000 copies. I hardly call that close to 500k in a month.
Even if thats undertracked by 4X the amount Madworld still didnt succeed like this on a platform with much greater numbers.
Even if thats undertracked by 4X the amount Madworld still didnt succeed like this on a platform with much greater numbers.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 5:32PM (Unverified) said
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 6:01PM Chibi Chaingun said
"fastest first-party PS3 title to reach 500,000 units sold"
Lol. Way to really narrow down the competition with that stat. :P
Lol. Way to really narrow down the competition with that stat. :P
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 6:27PM (Unverified) said
Killzone 2 is a good game but it will never hold a candle to COD4. The reason; simple, aiming. As a former soldier who has been PROPERLY trained on how to fire a weapon let me just say you DONT fire from the hip! You will not hit shit over 30meters away. Watch a movie like Black Hawk Down that had good military adivsors on set and tell me how many times you see a ranger or delta soldier shooting from the hip. Actual aiming in KZ2 is tedious. Weapons are nearly as accurate fired from the hip which is crap. COD is on a level by itself. I guess once you have played the Gold Standard of shooters (COD4), Killzone is just another game... Don't believe me, the sales numbers don't lie...
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 6:34PM (Unverified) said
They've patched the aiming... Like a couple weeks ago.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2009 6:47PM Kodros said
"Actual aiming in KZ2 is tedious. Weapons are nearly as accurate fired from the hip which is crap."
It's not tedious at all. You shoot from the hip when you are in close combat, you aim when you want to take someone out from a distance.
"COD is on a level by itself. I guess once you have played the Gold Standard of shooters (COD4), Killzone is just another game... Don't believe me, the sales numbers don't lie..."
Sales numbers don't lie but they also aren't the only determining factor as to whether something is good or not. For example, "Fast & Furious" made $71 million at the box office last weekend.
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It's not tedious at all. You shoot from the hip when you are in close combat, you aim when you want to take someone out from a distance.
"COD is on a level by itself. I guess once you have played the Gold Standard of shooters (COD4), Killzone is just another game... Don't believe me, the sales numbers don't lie..."
Sales numbers don't lie but they also aren't the only determining factor as to whether something is good or not. For example, "Fast & Furious" made $71 million at the box office last weekend.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 6:52PM (Unverified) said
If you think about it there is no reason why Killzone 2 should sell any less then any other shooter. I believe from my experience that Gears of War and Halo has anything that is better then the game should have had. They weren't any more or less innovative then Killzone is. I really don't understand what the problem is.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 6:54PM (Unverified) said
horrible and embarassing sales for north america
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 7:53PM Kodros said
Hmm, the full quote is "the fastest SCEA PS3 title to break the 500,000 unit mark and it's also the highest selling SCEA PS3 title for the first 30 days out of launch."
That doesn't mean that it only sold 500k in the first month.
That doesn't mean that it only sold 500k in the first month.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 8:42PM (Unverified) said
Thank you Guerilla Games for making the best video game I have ever played in my life! I have all the next-gen systems and I am a HUGE fps gamer. I have played them all from Goldeneye, Doom, Wolfenstein, Duke 3d, all the way up until Halo series, Half Life series, Counterstrike, Team Fortress 2, Unreal Tournament series, Battlefield series, Crysis & Crysis Warhead, Resistance 1 % 2, all the Call Of Duty games (COD4 being my former all-time favorite FPS) and believe me when I say that KILLZONE 2 is miles better than any of them!
I never thought I would be saying that Killzone 2 is my favorite video game of all time but it is and then some! It completely blew my expectations out of the universe! If you are a fan of multiplayer FPS and would like to play the most fun, addictive, beautiful, visceral, realistic, perfectly balanced, expertly crafted, MOST BADASS fps of them all then seriously look no further than Killzone 2! I have been playing this game for atleast 5 hours a day since it launched and it is April 6 when I write this so you can trust me on that one! The last game I played this much was COD4 and I just can’t believe how much better Killzone 2 is. I feel as though I could never go back to a Call Of Duty game after this. It’s insane!! I will be very pleasantly suprised if Call OF Duty Modern Warfare 2 is somehow able to top Killzone 2. I honestly dont think that Killzone 2 will be bested until Killzone 3 comes out. THAT’S HOW GOOD IT IS! Plus Guerilla Games from Amsterdamn have a ton of DLC coming out that I have a feeling is going to blow gamers away!
Killzone 2 takes all the best elements from all the best multiplayer FPS games ever made and molds them into one truly amazing game with a bunch of special touches right on the money to seperate itself from the pack. All the guns are polished to perfection and the finest weapons to ever be in any video game.
Killzone 2 has made an fps fan’s dream come true. I seriously feel as though I have died and gone to fps heaven whenever I play this astounding game. For those of you out there that aren’t lucky enough to play Killzone 2: DONT KID YOURSELF. You need to play this game if you love fps. After you play Killzone 2 online you will realize that a very high benchmark has been set and Guerilla Games hit the fps nail right on the head. You will laugh at the thought of playing another Halo game and even wonder if Modern Warfare 2 will be able to hold a candle to Killzone 2. Anyone who loves fps and has half a brain will tell you the same thing (if of course they actually own the game!)
But dont take my word for it: read what the ENTIRE GAMING PRESS has to say about it. Killzone 2 has definately stolen the fps crown. When I say it has taken the crown I’m of course not talking about how many people play it. Most people dont even own ps3s! Im talking of course about the quality of the game. It is the best next-gen shooter on the market and quite frankly the most “next-gen” game you could play right now PERIOD end of story. I just can’t over-emphasize how badly EVERYONE NEEDS TO EXPERIENCE THIS GAME. If you dont have a ps3 Killzone 2 is THE reason to get one and the ONLY reason you need to get one. I would trade in my 360 and all it’s games just to play Killzone 2! IT IS THAT FREAKIN’ AWESOME, YOU GET ME?!?! (reader beware, this game is not for sissys)
I never thought I would be saying that Killzone 2 is my favorite video game of all time but it is and then some! It completely blew my expectations out of the universe! If you are a fan of multiplayer FPS and would like to play the most fun, addictive, beautiful, visceral, realistic, perfectly balanced, expertly crafted, MOST BADASS fps of them all then seriously look no further than Killzone 2! I have been playing this game for atleast 5 hours a day since it launched and it is April 6 when I write this so you can trust me on that one! The last game I played this much was COD4 and I just can’t believe how much better Killzone 2 is. I feel as though I could never go back to a Call Of Duty game after this. It’s insane!! I will be very pleasantly suprised if Call OF Duty Modern Warfare 2 is somehow able to top Killzone 2. I honestly dont think that Killzone 2 will be bested until Killzone 3 comes out. THAT’S HOW GOOD IT IS! Plus Guerilla Games from Amsterdamn have a ton of DLC coming out that I have a feeling is going to blow gamers away!
Killzone 2 takes all the best elements from all the best multiplayer FPS games ever made and molds them into one truly amazing game with a bunch of special touches right on the money to seperate itself from the pack. All the guns are polished to perfection and the finest weapons to ever be in any video game.
Killzone 2 has made an fps fan’s dream come true. I seriously feel as though I have died and gone to fps heaven whenever I play this astounding game. For those of you out there that aren’t lucky enough to play Killzone 2: DONT KID YOURSELF. You need to play this game if you love fps. After you play Killzone 2 online you will realize that a very high benchmark has been set and Guerilla Games hit the fps nail right on the head. You will laugh at the thought of playing another Halo game and even wonder if Modern Warfare 2 will be able to hold a candle to Killzone 2. Anyone who loves fps and has half a brain will tell you the same thing (if of course they actually own the game!)
But dont take my word for it: read what the ENTIRE GAMING PRESS has to say about it. Killzone 2 has definately stolen the fps crown. When I say it has taken the crown I’m of course not talking about how many people play it. Most people dont even own ps3s! Im talking of course about the quality of the game. It is the best next-gen shooter on the market and quite frankly the most “next-gen” game you could play right now PERIOD end of story. I just can’t over-emphasize how badly EVERYONE NEEDS TO EXPERIENCE THIS GAME. If you dont have a ps3 Killzone 2 is THE reason to get one and the ONLY reason you need to get one. I would trade in my 360 and all it’s games just to play Killzone 2! IT IS THAT FREAKIN’ AWESOME, YOU GET ME?!?! (reader beware, this game is not for sissys)
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 10:58PM Overgauss said
Yeah KZ2 is awesome and everything, but even you've got to admit it has a little meh to it.
If it were entirely player skill based ala WH I might concuraga. But it's not and it is relatively easy to farm abilities.
Still KZ2 is no slouch and is probably one of the more substantive console FPS's out there.
It just has a little meh to it is all.
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If it were entirely player skill based ala WH I might concuraga. But it's not and it is relatively easy to farm abilities.
Still KZ2 is no slouch and is probably one of the more substantive console FPS's out there.
It just has a little meh to it is all.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 10:32PM (Unverified) said
That's pretty sad... This game is the fastest selling with only 500k in 30 days. Even if it's US sales that's very bad when compared to the other consoles. I guess a huge chunk of PS3 owners are non gamers who bought it for Blu-ray.
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 10:48PM Kodros said
"This game is the fastest selling with only 500k"
No, it was the fastest selling to 500k.
"Even if it's US sales that's very bad when compared to the other consoles"
No, it's not. I don't even understand what you are comparing.
"I guess a huge chunk of PS3 owners are non gamers who bought it for Blu-ray"
Yeah, I'm sure you're right. Each game should have at least a 80% attach rate. KillZone2 sucks with it's 10% attach rate in the US.
(God I hate people)
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No, it was the fastest selling to 500k.
"Even if it's US sales that's very bad when compared to the other consoles"
No, it's not. I don't even understand what you are comparing.
"I guess a huge chunk of PS3 owners are non gamers who bought it for Blu-ray"
Yeah, I'm sure you're right. Each game should have at least a 80% attach rate. KillZone2 sucks with it's 10% attach rate in the US.
(God I hate people)
Posted: Apr 9th 2009 10:39PM jackal said
Maverick,
It's just too bad we enjoy his company just as much as fish enjoy having parasitic isopods eat their tongues before permanently setting up shop in their mouths. That's right Gundam...I would rather have an aquatic sea louse burrow into my jaw, chew my tongue up like a piece of tough beef jerky, cut off the blood flow so the remaining nub actually falls off, and then have the bug add insult to injury by becoming its replacement than read another thread of you verbally fellating Microsoft's console while pissing on any and every form of competition that platform might have. FFS man, there comes a point you honestly have to look yourself in the mirror and say, "Am I really that much of a douche bag?"
It's just too bad we enjoy his company just as much as fish enjoy having parasitic isopods eat their tongues before permanently setting up shop in their mouths. That's right Gundam...I would rather have an aquatic sea louse burrow into my jaw, chew my tongue up like a piece of tough beef jerky, cut off the blood flow so the remaining nub actually falls off, and then have the bug add insult to injury by becoming its replacement than read another thread of you verbally fellating Microsoft's console while pissing on any and every form of competition that platform might have. FFS man, there comes a point you honestly have to look yourself in the mirror and say, "Am I really that much of a douche bag?"
Posted: Apr 10th 2009 2:26AM (Unverified) said
"Clearly you're looking for a sim. Most people aren't that discerning when it comes to games."
COD4 is not even close to a sim, it just actually requires you to aim; a seemingly novel concept for some people who don't know how to fire a rifle...
"It's not tedious at all. You shoot from the hip when you are in close combat, you aim when you want to take someone out from a distance."
You can hit enemies all the way across the map without aiming. Shooting and moving while aiming is far more clumsy than in COD4. It is not a huge knock against KZ2, no other shooter has the pure controls that Infinity Ward created. But then again, Guerilla is not on the same level as IW as a FPS developer.
"Sales numbers don't lie but they also aren't the only determining factor as to whether something is good or not. For example, "Fast & Furious" made $71 million at the box office last weekend."
Fast & Furious was a good movie. But if you want real numbers COD4 on PS3 has sold 4.2 million to date, and thats a multiplatform game! I sold 7.25 million on xbox if you were wondering. Halo 3 has sold almost 10 million. COD WAW sold almost 400,000 on PS3 in the first week; and again that game is multiplatform. Killzone 2 is by no means a bad game, its just not great. Every once in a while a game comes along that revolutionizes first person shooters. Halo 1 did it on xbox. COD4 did it for this generation. KZ2 while a good game, revolutionizes nothing. I think expectations were just a bit too high.
COD4 is not even close to a sim, it just actually requires you to aim; a seemingly novel concept for some people who don't know how to fire a rifle...
"It's not tedious at all. You shoot from the hip when you are in close combat, you aim when you want to take someone out from a distance."
You can hit enemies all the way across the map without aiming. Shooting and moving while aiming is far more clumsy than in COD4. It is not a huge knock against KZ2, no other shooter has the pure controls that Infinity Ward created. But then again, Guerilla is not on the same level as IW as a FPS developer.
"Sales numbers don't lie but they also aren't the only determining factor as to whether something is good or not. For example, "Fast & Furious" made $71 million at the box office last weekend."
Fast & Furious was a good movie. But if you want real numbers COD4 on PS3 has sold 4.2 million to date, and thats a multiplatform game! I sold 7.25 million on xbox if you were wondering. Halo 3 has sold almost 10 million. COD WAW sold almost 400,000 on PS3 in the first week; and again that game is multiplatform. Killzone 2 is by no means a bad game, its just not great. Every once in a while a game comes along that revolutionizes first person shooters. Halo 1 did it on xbox. COD4 did it for this generation. KZ2 while a good game, revolutionizes nothing. I think expectations were just a bit too high.
Posted: Apr 10th 2009 1:55PM Kodros said
"You can hit enemies all the way across the map without aiming."
Yes, but the bullet spread is bigger and you won't hit them as much. Try to do that against someone that is aiming at you and you will die first.
"But if you want real numbers COD4 on PS3 has sold 4.2 million to date"
Sure, the real numbers show that in the first 5 weeks, Killzone2 has sold more then CoD4. CoD4 was also released a month before Christmas. Plus, you're trying to compare a sequel to a game that not many have played (Killzone), to a 4th and 5th part of a franchise that has a HUGE following. And then you go and compare it against Halo3...are you friggen kidding me? If I compare every movie against the sales of Titanic, of course it's going to look like it sold like shit.
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Yes, but the bullet spread is bigger and you won't hit them as much. Try to do that against someone that is aiming at you and you will die first.
"But if you want real numbers COD4 on PS3 has sold 4.2 million to date"
Sure, the real numbers show that in the first 5 weeks, Killzone2 has sold more then CoD4. CoD4 was also released a month before Christmas. Plus, you're trying to compare a sequel to a game that not many have played (Killzone), to a 4th and 5th part of a franchise that has a HUGE following. And then you go and compare it against Halo3...are you friggen kidding me? If I compare every movie against the sales of Titanic, of course it's going to look like it sold like shit.
Posted: Apr 10th 2009 12:13AM (Unverified) said
Posted: Apr 10th 2009 12:58AM BoBsS said
The results are good, but I thought that the amount of advertising would generate even more sales.
Oh well, still good.
Oh well, still good.
Posted: Apr 10th 2009 2:50AM (Unverified) said
i don't know whats wrong with ps3 games....the flagship title fails to sell out at my store and I only ordered 10 copies....what the hell? Sony needs to step up or get out of the way.
Posted: Apr 10th 2009 3:08AM (Unverified) said
The demo made me dizzy so i couldn't play the full game. Ugh. And I had been waiting for it for years..
