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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:38PM (Unverified) said

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"The Dead Space: Extraction dev team would rather you didn't call its game an "on rails shooter."

They should have thought about that before going ahead and making one. I would much rather see them try to make more of a real game on the wii than an arcade shooter.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:46PM KeenCommander said

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Arcade shooters aren't real games? And did you even read the article that points out various ways in which this is far from the norm for the genre, and actually looking quite good? Somehow I suspect that the answer is no, and you're just trolling, trolling, trolling all the day long.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:48PM (Unverified) said

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I did read it, but it doesn't matter what they do as long as it remains a shallow rail shooter. When developers do this it feels as much of a cop out as making a port, because they don't want to try to make a real game.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:50PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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" I would much rather see them try to make more of a real game on the wii than an arcade shooter."

I'm always curious as to why someone would say something as idiotic as, "HURF CUZ IT'S A RAIL-SHOOTAH IT'S NOT A REAL GAME!!" An arcade game, even a light gun game, still has all the basic essentials of a video game. It has a plot, it has characters, and it has objectives. Therefore it's a game. It's silly to assume that simply because you can't move the character, it's not a "real game."

Whether it's a light gun game or an FPS, a game is a game.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:54PM (Unverified) said

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Ok i'm not getting into a debate over what's a game or not, but rail shooters are probably the most shallow form of game out there next to casual games. You play them with a buddy for like 20 minutes then get bored, shut it off and forget about it. I know the wii's not exactly the system for deep memorable experiences, but I'd like them to at least put more effort out than a rail shooter that everyone will forget about in a month.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:58PM MNeko said

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KeenCommander: No, only games he likes are games. That's the "hardcore" mindset. Back when I was growing up, we had a different name for it... selfish.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:59PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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" but I'd like them to at least put more effort out than a rail shooter that everyone will forget about in a month."

Except it really looks like they are putting an effort into making this a rail shooter with actual depth. And from all the videos and from this preview, it looks like they're doing a good job in doing that. So it's a little bit ridiculous to simply claim that they're not putting enough effort simply because they are making a rail shooter.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:05PM kenofthedead said

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So what you really mean is, you don't like rail shooters and you don't want it.

Was it really easier to insult an entire genre and those who do like those games by saying "they aren't real games" then just you don't like them and want something akin to the original Dead Space?

I like Rail Shooters, my friends and I do play them for more then 20 minutes, I do look forward to this game while I did not look forward to the original Dead Space. How about that, I said my prefrences and I didn't even have to insult anything.

Of course, I could have just said "you aren't a real gamer" as well, but that would be daft.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:09PM (Unverified) said

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"Of course, I could have just said "you aren't a real gamer" as well, but that would be daft."

It also wouldn't have made much sense coming from someone who would rather play a shallow rail shooter than the actual dead space.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:10PM Shagittarius said

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It would take either a Wii fanboy or a casual gamer to defend on rail shooters.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:13PM FernandoRocker said

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You know, I enjoy rail shooters just as much I love FPS or Platformers... the difference is that you kiddo, probably don't have a real life, a job and a wife.

Sometimes there is no time to play long games (I want to finish Blue Dragon DS but I just don't have time)... I have to work and practice guitar, etc...

So, it's nice to have options. And specially with games like this, because it doesn't look bad... it looks very good.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:21PM (Unverified) said

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"the difference is that you kiddo, probably don't have a real life, a job and a wife."

Oh boy here we go. You know you lost the argument when you have to resort to that.

YEAH WELL I LIKE SHALLOW SHORT GAMES CAUSE I'M TOO BUSY HITTIN THA CLUBS AND BANGIN BITCHES.

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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:22PM (Unverified) said

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"It would take either a Wii fanboy or a casual gamer to defend on rail shooters."

man, really? get over yourself. seriously. you too, tmacairjordan87
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:22PM (Unverified) said

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yes, because Dead Space is totally not the next closest thing to an on rails shooter. It didn't have closed linear corridors, it was like GTA in space!
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:27PM xFenixKnightx said

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"and practice guitar, etc..."

LOL! C'mon Fernando you could have come up with something better than that. The game actually DOES look good BTW.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:28PM Nier said

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Holy shit, Fernando has a wife!?
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:30PM MarkezJM said

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I like epically long, 100+, 200+ hour game, because if I run out of things to do or quests to complete, then all I have is my lousy coin & stamp collection :( I don't know why I don't find more enjoyable hobbies.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:33PM Mr Khan said

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The genre certainly lends itself to shallow experiences, but i feel that they really could do something different with it. It would lead to more cinematic gameplay (something i am opposed to), but that would certainly push the envelop of the rail-shooter genre.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:51PM Nook said

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Agreed tmac. Throwing some bullshit rhetoric out there is nonsense.

At least go the route offered by Medal of Honor Heroes 2, that game shipped with the 'arcade' feature as an option, make FPS an option.

On rails is a no sell to me.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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You just gotta love wii fans. They'll complain about not getting anything but shovelware and rail shooters, then lap up the next rail shooter that comes out (which will probably be full price too btw). I can't wait for the next failed nintendo conference to happen so everyone can whine and cry more, and all I will do is link this article here as the answer to your cries for new actual games.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:02PM (Unverified) said

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yep, we spend all day whining about the FIVE rail shooters on the Wii. THEY'RE TOTALLY FLOODING THE MARKET
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:06PM (Unverified) said

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When you get as few good games as the wii does, that pretty much qualifies as flooding the market.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:09PM (Unverified) said

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"...for new actual games."

"Ok i'm not getting into a debate over what's a game or not"

conflicting statements are conflicting
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:13PM (Unverified) said

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I don't get how that's conflicting at all. I wasn't getting into a debate over it, you can either go along with my definition or ignore it but I wasn't going to argue with anyone about it.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:14PM (Unverified) said

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Five games would only flood the PS3 market, because the PS3 has no games



I'll wait here patiently for you to ironically point out how what I said is wrong.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:16PM (Unverified) said

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I don't have to explain why you're wrong, because no one takes a statement like that seriously coming from a wii fanboy of all people.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:30PM Mavrick593 said

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Does that mean that he's a boy that fans Wiis? It's probably to prevent the Wii from getting the RRoD. Oh wait...
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 7:38PM FernandoRocker said

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@Fenix

I have to practice because we play at a bar twice per week... $100 per night., each.. of course I have to practice.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 8:07PM blahblah55 said

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Really guys? Fussing over this stuff again?

Look, let's wait for the game to come out - try it for ourselves - THEN come back here and fight over this stuff again.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 8:33PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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"try it for ourselves"

WHAT??? TRYING A GAME BEFORE PASSING JUDGEMENT ON IT??/ YOU'RE A SICK BASTARD MAN!!! SICK. GO BACK TO THE LOWER DEPTHS OF THE INTERNETS WHERE YOU BELONG, SCUM!!
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 8:37PM (Unverified) said

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Do you really need to try a shallow rail shooter to know what you're gonna get? Really??
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 9:27PM (Unverified) said

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The funniest thing is, tmac will not only play this game, but most likely (ask his mom to) purchase it too.

Post a pic tmac, please. I'm DYING to confirm my assessment that you are under 15 years of age.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not gonna post a pic for you to masturbate over you sick fuck. I already know for a fact you're under 15 cause you still use your momma jokes*

*Everytime you question my age I'm going to bring that up to remind everyone that not only are you an immature kid, but also a hypocrite.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 9:44PM kenofthedead said

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What an angry little man you seem to be.

I play games to have fun. Dead Space did not intrest me nor did it's style. Other games do, so I play them and I enjoy them. Which is rather the point of a video game isn't it? Entertainment?

If Rail Shooters are not for you, tis fine. If they don't entertain you then by all means don't play them. That doesn't make them any less of a game, it doesn't prevent people from being a "gamer" if they are entertained, it just means they are not for you.
Hopefuly someday you can learn to releax and learn that "to each their own" and all video games are video games even if you don't like them.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 10:18PM MarkezJM said

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Clean up in aisle 1, please, clean up in aisle 1, thank you.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 11:48PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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" I'm going to bring that up to remind everyone that not only are you an immature kid"

That statements pretty hilarious coming out of your mouth(or keyboard)

@Kenofthedead
Preach it.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2009 12:26AM SoulBlade said

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i wish joystiq had an ignore feature or something. there are entirely too many fools who ruin the forums here.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2009 12:35AM (Unverified) said

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They probably figure people are smart enough to ignore posts they don't like, instead of whining about it. Turns out they were wrong though.
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Posted: Apr 11th 2009 9:47AM SoulBlade said

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people are usually smart enough to skip over when they're reading posts, but when every other one is some idiot spouting off stupid shit it gets annoying and some posts are bound to be seen. at least we can down vote them... but these same idiots dont get the hint and continue to comment anyway. it's like they're desperate for some community even though they're rejected from it every time they make an attempt. maybe they're just too stupid to get a clue..

in any event, i'll keep my eye on this game, but the only rails/light gun shooter that i've really ever enjoyed was Time Crisis. if they can add something to the genre, which they seem to claim, i might give it a go.
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Posted: Apr 12th 2009 5:37PM (Unverified) said

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The only stupid ones are the ones who whine about comments instead of ignoring it. I'll leave you alone to figure out who I'm talking about, but so far you haven't given me much hope that you can.
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Posted: Apr 13th 2009 4:48PM (Unverified) said

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Why do you have a problem with casual games? Some of the best games I have played are casual. I can't even count the number of hours I have put into Solitare, Zoo Keeper, Tetris, Picross... I hope your not trying to imply all casual games are like Game Party or Boogie Bunnies.

Also to call all games in one genre shallow is very ignorant. Yes I do agree that there are many shallow on-rails-shooters as there are many shallow 3rd-person action games, FPSs, etc. But to call a game shallow before it comes out is just plane stubborn.

If you don't like on-rails shooters, just say so and move on instead of trying to tell people that a game is shallow before it is even completed.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:44PM MNeko said

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And I would prefer a game distilled down to its most exciting elements. You can't honestly say you look forward to all the monotonous backtracking and inventory browsing in today's games, can you? I'd rather just jump right into the action and enjoy every minute of it.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:44PM MowDownJoe said

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This sounds good. Hope it lives up to what we've seen.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:45PM blahblah55 said

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*reads article*

Sounds good enough to me.
I'll keep it on the buy list.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:45PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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The more I hear and see this game, the more I want it.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 10:51PM Foetoid said

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Agreed. Tho with GH:Metallica, The Conduit and Pikmin 2 Wiimake hitting Wii soon, my budget is stretched thin. :( I'm grateful i chose just the Wii and PC gaming this gen, i don't have the monies to buy all the games i want. Does anyone have a PAL SSBB, Mario Kart and Mario Galaxy they'll sell me for like $20 total.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:45PM MarkezJM said

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Nice write up, definitely sounds of more interest to me than HotD currently does in terms of story/theme.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 5:49PM FernandoRocker said

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Very good impressions... even Kotaku and some other site were very impressed with the demo.

I will definitely want to play this game... Dead Space is one of my favorite 360 games, so I hope EA has created a compeling story to this prequel.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2009 6:23PM (Unverified) said

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the news keeps getting better

http://wii.ign.com/articles/971/971316p1.html
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