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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:10PM Sly C said

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torrent sites aren't the only problem. there are other sites, like pspiso, that have users that upload TONS of pirated games, movies, and music to sites like megaupload and rapidshare. those sites are a bigger problem because downloads are drastically faster than torrents.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:56PM Ozymandias said

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Thanks for the link!

What content providers don't understand is the problem is on their end. When I can play games without switching discs or if I can play on something with a short load time off the Memory stick rather than UMD, then I will do it.

It's about quality, not cost. They can provide me with a better disstribution platform but don't. Fix it and I'll come back. I think there have been significant advances, but I need the full PSP library and homebrew access too.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:09PM Sly C said

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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:14PM NineT9 said

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What it all comes down to is the security on the PSP

Even if PSP owners know pirating games will ruin the PSP, they will still do it

We pirate stuff because its easy & free. Even if it hurts the industry, most people simply dont care, and its completly understandable because people are cheap...

I think its a little too late for the PSP, they helped with the PSP-3000, but that wont be enough, so next time... on the PSP2, I sure hope they tighten the security and prevent anyone from hacking it

It sucks because im all for homebrew, but the only way that usually happens comes with the ability to pirate games (burn, store, etc)
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:28PM Nomi said

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I've never bought a PSP game so I guess I am part of the problem. In my defense, its not about the money its about the convenience (battery life, portability). I have 25 PS3 games and around 15 'paid' iPhone games.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:29PM DeepFriedSushi said

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i can tell you that DS piracy is even worse than on psp so not sure why sony always are bitching about it. Even the wii has been cracked pretty heavily as well.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:30PM Nomi said

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Not to mention all the PS3 and PS1 games that I had bought.

Yes I am sort of a Sony fanboy... :D
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:47PM (Unverified) said

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lol @ this kid

" torrentz arent the problem ! megaupload and forumz are "

dude what are you doing, torrents was just used as an example

I find it very comical when people shift the blame elsewhere, in this case in a really dumb ass hell way
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:40PM (Unverified) said

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This is for wii60 (for some reason I can't reply to his post directly): Check out Joystiq's page on Waninkoko's USB loader. It does what you're looking for.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:44PM SheppyReturns said

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Wii60, I really hope one day, someone breaks into your house, steals all your shit, and says to you "If YOU provided a more convenient way for me to own your stuff, this wouldn't be happening."

"What content providers don't understand is the problem is on their end. When I can play games without switching discs or if I can play on something with a short load time off the Memory stick rather than UMD, then I will do it."

Funny, this arguement is vaguely reasonable. Because you DO have a valid point on this. Except, of course, the same utility that torrent site uses to snag the ISO off the UMD is available to you and if this was really your concern, you could BUY the damn game, rip it to ISO, and do it that way like I do. But you won't cause you're a thief and this is your excuse.

"It's about quality, not cost. They can provide me with a better disstribution platform but don't. Fix it and I'll come back. I think there have been significant advances, but I need the full PSP library and homebrew access too."

Actually, here's the common misconception. You don't NEED shit. Developers NEED the money you stole from them. Publishers NEED the sales to continue supporting the platform. Sony NEEDs the PSP to be a viable platform so that PSP2 can actually compete and those of use who hate one console dominated markets can actually have a choice. You WANT free games. So you make excuses while you steal.

If the way Sony is running PSP isn't to your liking, don't buy it, the games, or anything. That's your choice. But if you have a disagreement, this doesn't mean you can just fucking steal as a protest. You're scum and a tiny pathetic thief using convenience excuses to validate your theft. Games are a luxury item. If you're not willing to pay, you shouldn't have the luxury.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:46PM Sly C said

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thumbs up, sheppy!
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:50PM Istari Spartan said

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@ deep fried...

Just because ds piracy is worse, doesn't mean psp piracy doesn't hurt Sony.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:55PM (Unverified) said

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I'm gonna reference the epic-reply spanking debate and say the problem is that these pirates didn't get their asses beat when they were kids.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 9:12PM (Unverified) said

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TTDS,R4,M3 Real, etc say hi and are jealous that they can't has no PSP games
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 11:23PM pmiddy said

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@Wii60

>> What content providers don't understand is the problem is on their end.
>> When I can play games without switching discs or if I can play on
>> something with a short load time off the Memory stick rather than UMD,
>>then I will do it.

Uhh, I can do that now using custom firmware

>> It's about quality, not cost. They can provide me with a better
>> disstribution platform but don't. Fix it and I'll come back. I think there
>> have been significant advances, but I need the full PSP library
>> and homebrew access too.

This is where I call BS. It ABSOLUTELY is about cost for you. Like I said, I run custom firmware on both my PSP-phat and slim. I also rarely use the discs because of faster load times and convenience of not carrying them around. BUT, I have paid for every single one of my 30+ games. I even bought a second 16GB memstick. There is no reason that you can't run homebrew and do everything you are saying you can't while still paying the people that need to get paid.

Piracy is a problem because people are a) cheap and b) lazy. "But I wouldn't have bought it anyway." So, that doesn't mean you still get to play it for free. Go to your job, and when your boss says "hey, I know I said I'd pay you $5.50/hour, but I'll take it for free because I'd never pay $5.50/hour for anyone to do your job" and we'll see how that logic holds up.They make the content, they get to set the price. If you don't like it, grow a pair and vote with your wallet. Piracy just gives content providers (SONY, RIAA, etc) an excuse to make it harder for the average consumer to enjoy what they paid for.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2009 1:01AM chispito said

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It's fine to get a little worked up in your righteous anger over piracy, but the piracy really isn't hurting their bottom line as much as they let on. We have all seen the data and polls, and we analogously all know the usual suspects in our spheres, who would not play the games, much less buy them, if they could not pirate them.

@Sheppy -

It's not theft. It's infringement. Your analogy about breaking in doesn't apply. It would apply if the person who broke in made a copy of all your stuff (that you paid for) but you retained the originals.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2009 1:31PM kid said

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A well reasoned response chispito but there is no break-in involved at all actually.

A better comparison would be if you were offering copies of your stuff for a price and then the people who bought those copies made further copies and gave them away. In the end you never lose your stuff.

I feel as though people are making things slimier than they actually are.

Companies can't just expect that their information is worth something anymore. They are going to have to find ways to make people see a reason to give value to what is limitlessly reproducible.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2009 2:02PM Ordeith said

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"Wii60, I really hope one day, someone breaks into your house, steals all your shit, and says to you "If YOU provided a more convenient way for me to own your stuff, this wouldn't be happening.""

Sheppy:

But if someone were to break into my house regardless. I would much rather them have the option of stealing a COPY of all my stuff so they would have it, but I would come home to everything still in place.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:12PM ATimson said

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Start offering demos at/before release, and I suspect they'll see at least some of that traffic die down.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:34PM (Unverified) said

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Deja Vu

David
David @ Apr 17th 2009 2:50PM

Uh, sure.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 11:28PM Mmmmz said

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Or start offering better games. PC pirates say if demos were available there'd be less piracy. Maybe a little less, but demos are hardly the solution.

The PSP has some great games, but there isn't much variety. Also, the DS has a bigger piracy problem than the psp. So it comes down to marketing and software. Who knew...
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:12PM JONNNathannn said

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"I think gamers, if they understood if this meant that a platform would go away, can we convince gamers to pay for their content?"

Aw, such ignorance. I pay for PSP games, but that's because I only play one every month or so and am not cheap. People that pirate games all claim to do it for a number of reasons that Sony will not listen to, like being able to carry more than one with them at a time. Sony is still not listening, and it's been years, so it's funny to see them claim they are. Their answer has been firmware updates, and they've relied on this for a very long time. It's taken them Resistance sales numbers and this long to realize that doesn't work.

I think they should launch a really slick PSP2 with things gamers and developers want to get games made and gamers wanting...two analog sticks, ability to store/download games to a memory card, give gamers and developers a reason to care again.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:28PM (Unverified) said

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I have several, legal games on my PSP downloaded from the PSN store. Granted, there's not a whole lot to choose from yet, but the stuff that's available is top quality...
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:33PM (Unverified) said

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"People that pirate games all claim to do it for a number of reasons that Sony will not listen to, like being able to carry more than one with them at a time."

uh, what?

What people want is free games, the rest tend to be excuses. The sad thing is that even cheap downloadable games STILL get pirated, there is just no excuse for it, which goes on to prove that what people are really looking for is free games.

"Sony is still not listening, and it's been years, so it's funny to see them claim they are"

Because adding a second analog, competing with retailers, and lowering the prices in hope that people will buy games is easy...right?

It takes a while, and they have improved a hell lot, it is rather ignorant to say that they don't listen.

People wanted a PSP PSN store, and they brought it, people wanted support for more formats, they added them, some wanted skype, they added it as well. Multiple things have been added, give credit were due.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:36PM Typicalgamer said

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there's an app where you can rip off games on to your memory stick. go search it up on youtube.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 9:20PM (Unverified) said

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You call yourself sony boy, but you act like a dick and take away the money that belongs to developers and the studios that created them. Don't use CFW, Sony NEEDS to take legal action against dark alex, and we need people to support games on the PSP as well as Sony themselves by getting rid of your fucking hacked 1000s and getting new PSPs so Sony can produce new ones with better features.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 9:41PM Sly C said

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@ Black Mage

CFW and Dark-Alex aren't the problems. it's the people that get CFW just for piracy that are the problem. sony themselves said CFW would be great if there wasn't the piracy issue. CFW by law is perfectly legal.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:13PM nikescar said

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In the first year after release there was only a game or two worth buying.

Even now there's only a handful of games that would be worth playing for free.

It's a compounding problem starting with low quality games, which in turn leads less people to buy games, which then leads to less quality games coming out.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:30PM SheppyReturns said

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This statement has NEVER been true. Within the first year, PSP had several RPGs, Ridge Racer, Wipeout, Twisted Metal, Hot Shots Golf, Lumines, etc. Tons of great games within it's first year and a launch lineup, frankly, only rivaled by the Dreamcast.

The "It has no games" is only a valid complaint recently and frankly, I can't blame developers since PSP owners outside of Japan WON'T FUCKING BUY GAMES.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:42PM F1 Basu Gasu Bakuhatsu said

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I'm sorry Sheppy but did you say Ridge Racer?
RRRIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDGGGGGEEEEEE RRRAAAACCCCEEERRRR!!!???
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 9:10PM SheppyReturns said

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"It's the FINAL CURVE! GO! GO! GO!"
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 9:33PM (Unverified) said

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I hate to say it, but I kind of agree. Sure the psp has lots of good games, but does it have lots of really great games, the kind of games that sell consoles? Many people will disagree with me, but a good portion of the success of nintendo's series of handheld consoles can be traced to a single game franchise: pokemon. Since the very first games came out on the monochrome gameboy, people were addicted to them like crack. Now a decade later many people still buy nin's handheld just to play pokemon. And you can look on any rom site and find pirated roms of any pokemon game, but nobody cares since nintendo still makes its millions regardless.

So the question is: are there any games like that for the psp? About the closest thing I can think of is Monster Hunter, but the only place that game has been insanely popular is in Japan.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2009 10:11AM (Unverified) said

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@Dave: Monster Hunter is one thing, but the real seller is Gundam. They have a ton of awesome Gundam games (and even some not-so-awesome games) on the PSP which makes it a must for most of the gamers in Asia (who by association with nerdiness love their gundam). It's pretty much the same deal for Winning Eleven, Super Robot Wars, and whatever else I'm forgetting.

On piracy: I've never met someone with a PSP that WASN'T modded, so they have every right to be concerned.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:14PM JONNNathannn said

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Also, $39.99 price point is too much imo. Control that.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 11:01PM JONNNathannn said

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Wow, people like paying 43 when tax is done for a handheld game? Would you prefer it's 29, or 34?
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2009 10:28AM overflow said

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make that 39.95 € in Germany....
its about the same as a PC game.... (pc games are between 40 and 50€)
and the "platinium" games the "cheap ones" cost about 20€ which isnt really cheap. i buy them on amazon UK much cheaper that way (sometimes second hand) I would bought them if new games would cost 29€ and platinium about 10-15 €
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:16PM (Unverified) said

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...biggest chunk of software sales?!

..um..

What software...I have a grand total of 7 games for this thing that were worth purchasing.

Don't get me wrong...great titles ..but still...

THEN, they go and nix FFVII for all region release (Japan only...c'mon now, that's just a dick move...)

And NOW they want to trip about software sales and point the finger to piracy....

Sorry..but no...

Not condoning piracy mind you but ..eh, can you blame 'em? Gives some use out of it save Monster Hunter and/or Star Ocean (naming a few good ones right off the top).

Anyway..that's my 2 cents.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:18PM (Unverified) said

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*Add:

FFVII PSN download version, not Crisis Core...

Figured I needed to add that in before somebody, somewhere flips out.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:20PM Sly C said

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only 7?

patapon, locoroco, god of war, logan's shadow, jeanne d'arc, crisis core, monster hunter freedom 2? is that your list? cause there are a lot more great titles for the PSP.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:37PM Typicalgamer said

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maybe you should check out the whole library of psp games first dumbass.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:55PM (Unverified) said

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Learn to read, stain.

Games that *I* deemed worthy of a purchase, I know the library...even better than you.

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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 7:58PM Sly C said

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well i was just asking what those 7 are.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:09PM The Punisher said

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I love Sony Fanboys and their list of games.

It's funny how almost every story has commenter's that say the PS3 or the PSP have no good games.

Then a Sony Fanboy will list a bunch of games not even yet released as proof there are good games for that system.

Before these people were saying Lair and Heavenly Sword, this year people are saying Heavy Rain and others.

It never ends. Keep sippin that Kool-Aid.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:28PM Sly C said

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caveman, the thing is, i only said games that have already come out.
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 8:30PM THEBLAH said

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omg caveman, i was drinking kool-aid mid sip as i read your comment
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Posted: Apr 21st 2009 9:35PM TwistedBishop said

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So when someone remarks on a dearth of quality titles for a system, and gets handed a list of solid to exceptional games already released for said system, and STILL refuses to accept it....who in this example do you think is delusional?
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2009 1:13AM The Punisher said

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@ TwistedBishop

That would be you. Games like Heavenly Sword and Lair were pretty much panned by reviewers and the gaming public.

I don't really care for Metacritic or reviews in general. I take them with a grain of salt, however the amount of games sold speaks volumes. Sure, LBP got a lot of praise but it didn't sell that well and isn't a system seller. But I will still see it on a list by some Sony fanboy.

@ Ezio Auditore de Firenze

True, you did list games that were already released, but be honest there's not really a whole lot of good games coming up for the PSP anyway. (Que list)... My observation was simply that for some reason Sony fanboys always make a list of games. I don't see Wii, DS, or Xbox fanboys making lists of games. Maybe they're too busy actually PLAYING them instead of trolling message boards.

I bought my PSP on day 1 and now it just collects dust. I really thought it was going to be this really awesome PMP that could play games and surf the net. But the awkward way of having putting videos and the clunky UI just made it unappealing really fast. I'm much happier with my iPhone for all those needs.

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Posted: Apr 22nd 2009 4:11AM (Unverified) said

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"Then a Sony Fanboy will list a bunch of games not even yet released as proof there are good games for that system.

Before these people were saying Lair and Heavenly Sword, this year people are saying Heavy Rain and others."

Right, I see Xbox fanboys doing this every day since last year. For the last time guys, Alan Wake has a ??? release date.
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Posted: Apr 22nd 2009 5:31AM TwistedBishop said

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You're really focusing on those two games for the PS3, let alone the
fact this post is talking about the PSP. Whether you personally like
a game or not doesn't matter. Whether it sells gangbusters or not
isn't the final word on quality. I can think of as many good
exclusives for the PS3 as for the 360, ditto for the PSP and DS.
Claims that any one system "has no games" is just plain ignorance.

And now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 8:11PM Angel Mass said

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Not to mention all the "soccer" games for us futbol fans
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