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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 1:47PM Rhamsey said

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holy shit
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 1:52PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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How Many FF games are there??

then there are those Based off of FF...
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:01PM Dopple Boppler said

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I think it's time Squeenix stop counting monies and start making Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime 2 with wifi tank battles. That would make my life.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:31PM In A World said

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What's a wifi tank? I want one.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:03PM (Unverified) said

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The new British Empire?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:13PM (Unverified) said

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well it's not like "FF" is a series in the traditional sense when you're counting Chocobo Dungeons and Crystal Chonicles along with FF 1 - 13.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 6:27PM SoCoolCurt said

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yea and plus the fact that even FF 1-13 have little to nothing to do with each other besides the fact that they share the same name and genre.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:20PM borland502 said

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Ok, that map is screwing with my thought processes. For a nano second, a nano second people my mind was questioning why Sweden was in Canada.

But oy, that's a lot of emo man-women saving the world! Fabulous.**

**Don't get me wrong, I like Final Fantasy, b-b-but it confuses me
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 3:34PM Saria the Cat said

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I'm assuming you're American (like me). American maps always have the North American content pictured larger than scale and/or on the left side or center of the map. So I'm not surprised that a European-centric map would confuse you (they confuse me too at first glance), since it's not the orientation we're used to seeing.

Biased cartography is interesting. If you think about it, the entire world is one big sphere, so the way we choose to represent it on a map really reveals our ethnocentrism.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 4:42PM SpartacusMagnus said

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Actually having the Americas on the left isn't ethnocentrism, it's tradition. Human culture originated in the Fertile Crescent area (middle east) and spread from there. The Americas were "discovered" much later in human history and the entire world (not just Americans) refer to this side of the pond as "the Western Hemisphere". Therefore when you flatten the globe out, it just makes logical sense to put the Western Hemisphere, you know, on the west side of the map.

And what map are you referring to that increases the size of North America due to ethnocentrism? The scale of NA is certainly stretched a bit due to the inherent flaw of a flat map of a spherical object, but that has nothing to do with what culture happened to print the map. If that were the case, those dang penguins in Antarctica are the most ethnocentric bastards on the face of the planet!
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 5:44PM Saria the Cat said

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@Spartacus: http://books.google.com/books?id=4hYs-rUd8QcC&pg=PA430

"Actually having the Americas on the left isn't ethnocentrism, it's tradition."

Yeah, Western tradition.

"Therefore when you flatten the globe out, it just makes logical sense to put the Western Hemisphere, you know, on the west side of the map."

Drawing the lines as to where the west/east hemisphere lie are completely arbitrary and culturally-bound.

"The scale of NA is certainly stretched a bit due to the inherent flaw of a flat map of a spherical object, but that has nothing to do with what culture happened to print the map."

That's the worst logic I've ever heard. NA is consistently printed larger than Europe and it is completely possible to print anything to scale based on, you know, actual continental size; the curvature of the earth does not impede a to-scale printing of the map.

You can check out different ethnocentric maps for purchase here:
http://www.mapsofworld.com/projection-maps/

Believe it or not, different parts of the world use different maps to teach kids geography. There is no universal map. :) Just 'cause it's American tradition doesn't mean everyone thinks the same way.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 7:54PM SpartacusMagnus said

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"Drawing the lines as to where the west/east hemisphere lie are completely arbitrary and culturally-bound."

It is European countries that have been labeled "Western Nations". This terminology is recognized around the world, not just in America. The Western Hemisphere is defined by the location of the Prime Meridian, which is also the international date line- which is recognized around the world, not just by Americans.

"That's the worst logic I've ever heard. NA is consistently printed larger than Europe and it is completely possible to print anything to scale based on, you know, actual continental size; the curvature of the earth does not impede a to-scale printing of the map."

Um, maybe because North America IS larger than Europe...

Europe: ~4,000,000 square miles
North America: ~9,450,000 square miles


I'm not denying ethnocentrism exists or that there is no such thing as cultural bias, I have a degree in anthropology and I've traveled to South America, the Middle East and Asia, so I know better. I'm just saying that the most popular, standard, traditional world map layout is with the Americas on the left. I've seen other map layouts in my studies and abroad, but even in the countries I've been to for the most part display maps in this standard configuration.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 8:26PM Saria the Cat said

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@Spartacus: So what you're trying to tell me is that you just like arguing with me. ;) If you have a degree in anthro, then you likely agree with me about ethnocentrism, and its occasional existence in cartography.

I do find it strange that you didn't find variations in the standard map used in schools across different countries, though. I've been to several countries in Europe, Asia, and lived in Mexico City, and they all had their differences in map design.
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Posted: Apr 24th 2009 7:00AM (Unverified) said

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In Canada, all the maps show the US as being much smaller than Canada.

I know that Canada is HUGE and all, but it is funny considering maps in the US show the US as being quite large. It's no wonder that most Americans don't fully grasp how ridiculously huge and barren Canada is.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:25PM tsoulx said

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Lara Croft and JC Denton with Limit Breaks. What other reasons could Square Possibly want with Eidos?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:27PM chispito said

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Square really needs to give the FF series a makeover, both in terms of the art direction and the gameplay. It's not just that they all look like anime, it's that they look like the exact same anime.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:39PM In A World said

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They should take some cues from the presentation in MGS4, as should all other JRPG developers. Now, I'm not saying they need to go all gritty or have a weird, obscure story, but they do need to create believable characters through better dialog, and for godsakes, get rid of all that androgyny!
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 3:36PM Saria the Cat said

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I'd argue that FF IX was a refreshing departure, in terms of char design, story, and art direction. Still similar in many ways to the other installments of the series, I agree, but a departure nonetheless.

I'd love to see more refreshing installments like FF IX that aren't afraid to chance something.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 3:46PM (Unverified) said

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Totally agree, Saria!

I thought FF IX was bold, beautiful, and very interesting.

Also, being a writer, the story elements captivated me a lot.

Though, I do think that Square really should do some work making a new FF work on a portable like the DS. So far, only the remakes have been stellar.

http://videogamejunkies1.blogspot.com/
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:31PM (Unverified) said

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is it me or is the meridian of that map in the wrong place?
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 2:39PM NaeemTHM said

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Kain and Raziel need to be in the next Kingdom Hearts game.

Also, Final Fantasy VI>>>ALL

FFVII fanboys be damned.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 3:08PM CJLopez said

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Hell Yeah!!!!
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 6:31PM GreenElf said

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Kain and Raziel cannot meet in a Kingdom Hearts game...

everyone's head would melt from the sheer awesomeness!

Seriously tho, my friend and I were just talking about how we hope the the Soul Reaver series will get some love now with the takeover.

One can dream...
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 3:29PM (Unverified) said

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Mario sold, what, 200 million? I guess that's not a fair comparison, since there are so many more crap Mario titles compared to crap Final Fantasy titles.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 4:03PM NaeemTHM said

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Perhaps you could compare it to the other Nintendo juggernaut, Polkmanz. Each alliteration sells 8 bajillion copies and melts the minds of children and pedophiles alike.
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