Microsoft Q309: Xbox division loses $31 million, 360 sales up 30%

I make that in a day's work. Microsoft are a bunch of slackers

really Mr. Premature? Because I use that much as fertilizer for the lawn of my at least 100 bedroom mansion. And take whatevers left over and use it to fill my cats litter box

And here I thought Joystiq catered to a higher class of citizen. I never knew I'd have to associate with PEASANTS such as yourself

You STOLE that trillion dollar note Moptimus Slime! I earn my riches fair and square as a platinum collar worker.

You are nothing more than a petty thief with a massive house and a really fancy monocle!

Damn, The xbox must be making a crap load of moneys cuz zune and windows mobile lose money every day. Kudos to MS for making money

you're just jealous because I found the treasure of the Flying Hellfish before you did!

no its not. the wii tie ratio is almost the same at the ps3. and that is sad. i my self have about 15 wii games

austin is correct. It goes 360 >>> PS3 > Wii.

The 360's higher tie ratio is largely to do with it being out a year long. The tie ratio zof a console naturally increases the longer a console is on the market, as people who bought the console in its first year carry on buying games every subsequent year, driving the figure up.

Correction to above post
*If the console does not become modded and then used for piracy, said consoles will continue to sell games each year after its purchased*

sorry, dyslexia! haha ;)

Same here Austin, and another 15 more if i had the money to run out and buy the games i want that are already out now + 10 more this year :(

I need to win the lotto.

Shows that the 360's software sales are disproportionately strong, too.

Do they account for the fact that some of us are on our 3rd Xboxes already?

Khan:

Yes, that's true too.

Only if you're only looking at those two quarters (Q3 2008 and Q3 2009).

Oops, totally didn't notice that they meant from the same time at different years.

It actually *lost* $31 million.

(Well, it and the Zune and stuff.)

yeah well i just ignored a couple words here and there

That is the correct way to live life. =)

thanks been doin that for a couple years now, to me the post said " xbox sales up 30%"

Well, 360 sales are up 30% over this time last year. They also happen to cost less though, so Microsoft are getting a lot less money per console sold.

yes you seem to be right about that if only i didnt decide to not read that part when you said it cost less

The next Xbox will never be released if I have anything to do with it.

when it does, I hope it bombs

why would you hope it bombs? competition creates better prices, games, and give people a choice. fucking fanboys, i hope they die.

Yeah, just like the last console to come out with an incremental upgrade and full backwards compatibility bombed too........

Oh wait.

"The next Xbox will be an incremental upgrade of the 360 with full backwards compatibility."

Your logic stinks like several day old fish left on the top of the refridgerator. So what your saying is, sales are low, so the next console will take longer to come out and only be an incremental upgrade.

Say, what?? I can agree with the full backwards compatability being a possibility since the xbox 360s backwards compabilility over the PS3->PS2 debacle is one of its selling poiints but why on earth would you imply that the next console will be an incremental upgrade?

Computers, especially ram, graphics cards and video cards, at a rate thats almost an exponential increase in processing power and strength year over year. So in purchasing a PC, the longer you wait to purchase your next pc, the more your new pc will outpower your old pc. If you said two years, the new computer may be 2x as fast as your current pc. If you waited four years, the new computer may be 4x as fast and if you wait eight years, your new computer may be 8x as fast.

If we won't be seeing the next cycle of the xbox 360 for a LONGER time and this hardware cycle for consoles lasts LONGER, longer equates to a more powerful future machine not a less-powerful machine. Therefore, its not logical to assume the next upgrade will be 'incremental'. Rather, we could assume the next upgrade would be 'substantial'.

Honestly, if you look at say the 4950 ati radeon card, its a $99.00 dollar card that performs nearly as good as the 4870. This $99.00 card is also about 4x as powerful as the video card currently in the xbox 360. In another 4 years from now, if thats how long you think the next generation of consoles will be delayed by the current depression, there's likely going to be a video card 16x more powerful at this $99.00 price point. So yes, just 16x more powerful. What an 'incremental' upgrade.

And Sony makes money on it's hardware?

Only Nintendo makes money on the hardware. Microsoft/ Sony make their money on the software licensing fees/ first party games.

What tension? It's 360 for multiplatform games (mostly because of achievements and better online) and exclusives and PS3 for their exclusives. Isn't that how it goes? I thought that was pretty much standard for people who have both.

@tmacairjordan87:

I own both, and I have to say that I'll buy a title based on how it plays on each system. For example I bought Fallout 3 on xbox 360 because of the DLC, and Street Fighter 4 on PS3 because of the controller.

Odd thing, I hate my 360 so much now from having to send it in 9 times (its a Falcon Elite), that I just want to get rid of the thing and all its games. PS3 is good enough for me now.

Get outta my head Tmac. GET OUTTA MY HEAD!!!

Seriously though, that's pretty much hitting the nail on the head for me. 360 exclusives and multiplat (especially multiplayer) games on the 360, and exclusives on the PS3. And that's not undermining the PS3, because it has some sweet exclusives (with inFamous, Uncharted 2, and God of War 3 on the way no less).

You know, as a Wii owner, it's fun to sit back and watch everyone else bicker about faulty hardware (well, Ps3 is fairly reliable from what i've heard).

*waits for Tmac to say something like 'As a 360 owner, it's fun to sit back and play some GAMES'*

While he's saying that, i'll be laughing, thinking of all the good games he's missing out on thanks to his arrogance and ignorance.

tmac is right...

Last gen, I used my Gamecube to play all the exclusives and multiplatform games (Gamecube had better graphics than the PS2)... games like Viewtiful Joe or Resident Evil run at a better framerate and with better effects...

This gen, the 360 is the one that gets the exclusives and multiplatform games, because they offer more value for the same money as the PS3 and Wii multiplatform games: way better online, achievements (I don't care for achievements, but still, it's an added plus) and they generally run better than the PS3 version... plus, in my opinion, the analog sticks placement is way better on the 360 controller than in the DS3).

My Wii and PS3 are mainly for exclusives.

I forgot:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p236/fernando_rocker/Newman.jpg?t=1240534556

You are aware i'm getting a wii right foetoid? Hopefully tomorrow if the post office sends me my refund money for losing it.

Fernando, why didn't you say the GC had better graphics than the Xbox 1. Both Prime games looked better than both Halos, and TP looked better than Fable 1. The GC had the power to have better graphics than the Xbox 1 thanks to the powerpc architecture, faster ram and coppermine CPU (even tho clockspeeds were lower). It was only the storage of the mini-dvds that meant multi-platform games were compressed and ugly.

"Odd thing, I hate my 360 so much now from having to send it in 9 times (its a Falcon Elite), "

Warning Warning Will Robinson! PS3 Fanboy in disguise alert! Warning Warning!

Oh yeah and my blu-ray drive failed on my PS3 18 times!! It's true! No joke! Really, I'm not EXAGGERATING at all. It REALLY HAPPENED.

Good work Tmac, join the club. Let me make things easy for you:


Out Now:

Mad World
Mario Galaxy
Super Paper Mario
Zelda: Twilight Princess
Resident Evil 4
Metroid Prime 3
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero World Tour
Call of Duty 5
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Okami
De Blob
Pikmin 1 Remake
Tony Hawk Downhill Jam
Super Smash Bros Brawl
Mario Kart Wii
Wii Sports
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Zack and Wiki
Battalion Wars 2
Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution 2
Geometry Wars: Galaxies
Trauma Centre (both)
No More Heroes
Lost Winds
World of Goo
Deadly Creatures
FF:CC My Life As A King

Out Soon:

The Conduit
RE0/RE1 remakes
Pikmin 2 remake
Prime 1&2 remakes
Overlord: Dark Legend
Sadness
Dead Space: Extraction
Wii Sports Resort
Fatal Frame IV
Red Steel 2
Mushroom Men
FF:CC My Life As A Darklord
FF:CC The Crystal Bearers
FFIV: The After Years
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
Fragile
Monster Hunter 3
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
No More Heroes: 2
Guitar Hero: Metallica

That list is based on what out here in Australia. And i'm not trying to play list wars or anything like that, just thought i'd throw out some suggestions on game i personally think are great or going to be great when they come out.

That list was awful and a waste of space

Metroid Prime it's the best game I have ever played... truly a masterpiece...

The game still looks very pretty, and the framerate... 60fps... amazing.

tmac...

Simple as this: first of all, get the component cables. The difference is very noticeable.

Then: just get this 2 games at first, just to test the system, and to get used to the pointer and motion:

Super Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime 3

Then get the other games that you want to play.

I already have galaxy, zelda, paper mario and no more heroes and that's all I'll have for a while cause I'm pretty much broke now lol.

Well, I am gonna get those cables since they're pretty cheap...but yeah no more buying games for a while.

Except Mad World hey Tmac?

Foetoid

Do you have Excitebots? Mario Kart Wii?

We should play some games online... add me to MSN rock_rules20 at hotmail.com

I'm waiting for the inevitable price drop (after those first month sales) to get madworld, but I got an alert from CAG that rune factory is under 30 now so I might make that my next purchase when I have some spare money.