OK, you know we have little tolerance for anything that's more legally demanding than Phoenix Wright, so just try to hang in there with us. Inventor Craig Thorner has filed suit against Sony, saying that the company and a handful of lawyers tricked him out of some money he could have received for patents he owned on rumble technology.
To put it as simply as possible: Thorner had some patents that both Sony and Immersion tried to get during their legal squabbling. Thinking it might net him some cash, Thorner licensed his patents to Immersion, which won its case against Sony. Immersion then went after PDP/Electro Source, which also licensed Thorner's patents after he believed his deal with Immersion expired. But (stick with us!) Sony and PDP/Electro Source had teamed up, and Thorner alleges that he wasn't informed of the deal, which made him license his patents to PDP for much less than he could have had he known (that's the "tricked him out of cash" part).
God, that was exhausting. If you want even more detail (if not necessarily a better understanding) of the case you can read GamePolitics' full piece here.
Reader Comments (37)
Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 6:27PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
BLAST!!!
You beat me to it...
I was SOOOOO gonna say that
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You beat me to it...
I was SOOOOO gonna say that
Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 8:34PM Negativecool said
Good god! Everytime I make that exact reference no one knows what I'm talking about. I was beginning to think I was alone...all alone.
Thank you sir, you've renewed my faith in humanity.
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Thank you sir, you've renewed my faith in humanity.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 6:22PM AsherR said
Okay. I'm not going to be able to get that picture out of my head now, Justin. That picture being one of a pantsless Matlock....
Duck feathers!
So many of these lawsuits are frivolous, but some seem to have merit. No idea where this one falls right now. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Duck feathers!
So many of these lawsuits are frivolous, but some seem to have merit. No idea where this one falls right now. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 9:04PM Extinction said
Nintendo didnt invent any of the thinhs ppl tend to credit them with
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 9:36PM Swizzler said
fanboy alert, fanboy alert!!! oh noes! Nintendo is a copycat! YES! it was NINTENDO that betrayed Sony with their contract to co-author a CD-run consloe, because Nintendo came out with the first CD-run console, not Sony, no, Nintendo totally stole it and called it the playstation, while sony was stuck with the N64 :(
and then when Nintendo went to Sony to ask for help making a controller, Nintendo totally stole the plans and the credit and named it the DualShock, and they haven't changed the controller since. Totally, Nintendo never made ANYTHING.
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and then when Nintendo went to Sony to ask for help making a controller, Nintendo totally stole the plans and the credit and named it the DualShock, and they haven't changed the controller since. Totally, Nintendo never made ANYTHING.
Posted: Apr 24th 2009 2:50AM R Planteer said
Pretty sure the Sega CD came out before sony even thunk the word "playstation"
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 6:35PM MrHashbrown said
...so the whole point of this guy complaining is that he didn't make as much money off of a multi-billion dollar company than he could have?
Sorry buddy, but that's just a simple case of wrong place and wrong time. Stop whining.
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Sorry buddy, but that's just a simple case of wrong place and wrong time. Stop whining.
Posted: Apr 24th 2009 3:26PM (Unverified) said
Yep and we can only hope Sony will counter sue and take him down for price fixing and biased licensing practices.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 6:36PM TheDarkWayne said
I only ever watched one episode of Matlock. I had woken up early to watch Batman TAS, but it was too early, and Matlock was on. I had no idea what was going on, I couldnt only watch in confusion as I tried to figure out what this gray suited gentleman had done to Batman
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 6:44PM Pure Black World Tendency said
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physician as a way to more quickly and effectively perform a "therapeutic
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allowing the doctor time to see more patients.
What, you must ask, were esteemed physicians doing with their vibrators?
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the 1950¹s, medical experts from the time of Hippocrates up to the 20th
century believed that hysteria expressed the womb¹s revolt against sexual
deprivation. A woman's display of mental or emotional distress was a clear
indication of her need for sexual release. Genital massage was a standard
treatment for hysteria; its objective was to induce "hysterical paroxysm"
(better known as orgasm) in the patient. Obviously such treatment demanded
both manual dexterity and a fair amount of time, so turn of the century
physicians were delighted with the efficiency, convenience and reliability
of portable vibrators.
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The first mechanical vibrator was invented in the 1880's by a British
physician as a way to more quickly and effectively perform a "therapeutic
massage." Starting in the first century A.D., doctors manually massaged
women to orgasm in hopes of purging them of a mysterious illness. The
vibrator was invented as a way to get the job done more quickly and therefore
allowing the doctor time to see more patients.
What, you must ask, were esteemed physicians doing with their vibrators?
They were treating hysteria, the most common health complaint among women
of the day. While the existence of hysteria as a disease was debunked in
the 1950¹s, medical experts from the time of Hippocrates up to the 20th
century believed that hysteria expressed the womb¹s revolt against sexual
deprivation. A woman's display of mental or emotional distress was a clear
indication of her need for sexual release. Genital massage was a standard
treatment for hysteria; its objective was to induce "hysterical paroxysm"
(better known as orgasm) in the patient. Obviously such treatment demanded
both manual dexterity and a fair amount of time, so turn of the century
physicians were delighted with the efficiency, convenience and reliability
of portable vibrators.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 7:32PM Knight Marquise said
While it's interesting, to say the least, what the hell does that have to do with this story????
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 6:49PM (Unverified) said
Dealing with corporations without an attorney for protection is just asking for trouble.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 7:04PM (Unverified) said
Agreed. People are too busy hating lawyers to remember about the other 50% of lawyers that are trying to protect people like this.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 8:00PM DigitalTwisted said
No sympathy for the guy at all, Sony don't have to announce to the world if they team up with someone.
For example my friend HATES Pepsi and has proclaimed for years that anything made by Pepsico is evil and he will never purchase that product.....
He eats Quaker Oats every day for breakfast.....any idea who owns Quaker Oats?.....
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For example my friend HATES Pepsi and has proclaimed for years that anything made by Pepsico is evil and he will never purchase that product.....
He eats Quaker Oats every day for breakfast.....any idea who owns Quaker Oats?.....
Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 8:08PM (Unverified) said
MBO hit the nail on the head.
Assuming this information is entirely correct, PDP/Electro Source is under no obligation to inform him of their other business proceedings (in fact, there are many instances where this actually is illegal).
This case has no ground, unless somewhere in his licensing agreement with PDP/ES he is given specific rights to approve/disprove of business proceedings dealing with his patent.
I usually like David v. Golaith law stories (Scratch, LLC v. Activision made me cry I was so over-joyed), here though this looks like a guy who is just being a dick because he didn't get all the money he could have.
Welcome to the world of business Mr. Thorner, you have to live with the deals you make, and make those deals with the information you have.
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Assuming this information is entirely correct, PDP/Electro Source is under no obligation to inform him of their other business proceedings (in fact, there are many instances where this actually is illegal).
This case has no ground, unless somewhere in his licensing agreement with PDP/ES he is given specific rights to approve/disprove of business proceedings dealing with his patent.
I usually like David v. Golaith law stories (Scratch, LLC v. Activision made me cry I was so over-joyed), here though this looks like a guy who is just being a dick because he didn't get all the money he could have.
Welcome to the world of business Mr. Thorner, you have to live with the deals you make, and make those deals with the information you have.
Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 8:36PM Negativecool said
You're lucky your spamming was about making chicks orgasm with vibrators, otherwise your (confusing) upvotes would be down.
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Posted: Apr 23rd 2009 8:38PM Negativecool said
Son of a bitch! Joystiq, still with quote issues? This was a reply to Great Golem+'s unusual post.
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