The making of a legend: PlayStation 1

Nintendo f*cked up by turning on Sony and going to Phillips for the same thing... while Sony was making it...

ThanX, I never knew.

Yea because Eternal Darkness Resident evil 4 0 or 1 remake Wargods arent from Nintendo systems (not that I'm for he Big N or anything) Nintendo just has alot of first Party franchises that date back to when fewer games were graphic that AND of course they ARE family oriented. You ARE kinda right though GTA woulda went from PC to Saturn it never woulda got swamped in PS1 sales.

Dude, the amount of 'unclean' games Nintendo's ever had for their systems can be counted on one hand. There's a few pretty bad ones every now and then, but the majority of their games have almost always been family-oriented..... And really? You challenged Nintendo's reputation of making clean games by citing Mad World? Dude, that game came out last month, HOW long has Nintendo been making games?

If we're counting non-first party titles, like GTA? Keep in mind that Nintendo had a content control policy up to around '95, which was replaced by the ESRB.

N64 had Perfect Dark, South Park, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Turok, Duke Nukem, GCN had Eternal Darkness, Killer7, RE4, Wii has HOTD: Overkill, No More Heroes, MadWorld, RE:UC and the upcoming DC, Dead Space: Extraction, Animales de la Muerte. That's three hands of games off the top of my head.

Now, we probably wouldn't have gotten GTA, but that's not because of content. There wouldn't have been room for it on the N64's cartridge or the GameCube's minidisk.

Gaming would be very different, but it probably wouldn't be cleaner. And it's unlikely that we wouldn't have open world games-- the Dreamcast would've fared much better without FUD concerning PS2. SEGA might still have gone under, but then there's also the Xbox, which likely would've been the dominant console without PS2. They just would've come into being later.

No, that was interesting. I wasn't old enough to be following the games industry back then, so it's fun to here things like that.

i like how it says that a proposed game for the 64DD was FFVII xD

And yeah, this is the first time I've actually seen the console, as well.

In the End? Yeah but PS1 n 2 buried most competition at the time. Wii was a last ditch effort and if it had of failed Nintendo would be the new Sega, whoring off Mario games for eternity. Lucky for them Wii opened up a whole new market.

not really, deanb. Nintendo has always focused on profitablity, SEGA took a lot of risks that didn't pay off. Nintendo was in danger of becoming a niche platform, sure, but nothing like Sega's whoring. Even the GameCube, which is inarguably the darkest time in Nintendo's history, had great (if not-as-great) first party games, like Mario Kart, Metroid Prime, Mario Sunshine, and Wind Waker. And they turned a profit while doing it.

SEGA not only took risks, but they pissed off a LOT of people. Go google the "Saturnday" debacle. If you think Sony's "599 US dollars"/"Attack it's weakpoint for massive damage"/"RIIIIIIIiiiiIIIDGE RACER!" E3, or Nintendo's "look at this dude on Wii Music"/"Throw the frisbee!" E3 were bad, Sega fucked up FAR FAR worse.

On the other hand, retailers seem to be warming up to Nintendo again. Heck, my Wal-Mart has had Playstation up front, Xbox in the middle, and Nintendo in the back for as long as I can remember-- last night, when I went to check their bargain bins, the Wii games had been moved up to the front, and they had Wii units sitting on the shelves, outside of glass cases.

I don't see the Wii as any more of a 'last ditch effort' than the DS. They tried something different, risky, and it worked. Keep in mind that Nintendo had plans for another gameboy, which didn't happen because the DS worked out so well. I wouldn't be surprised if the Wii was the exact same thing (which would also be why manufacturing was so low for so long); something they wanted to try, but they had a real next platform waiting for replace it if it didn't work out. See also the Virtual Boy; intended to be a 'third platform' instead of a competitor or replacement with the Nintendo console and Game Boy handheld.

599 US DOLLARS, for a start. Sony had no reason to be in last place this gen, especially after the massive success of the PS2. They got greedy, they raised the price double and triple their competitors, and people didn't like that.