In response to a fairly public outcry, Konami has decided not to publish Atomic Games' take on the Iraq War, Six Days in Fallujah, just 21 days after announcing it, according to Asahi.
Wow, we just don't know where to start. Well, OK, first, we need to congratulate Konami. Really bold, guys, way to weather the storm. Second, to the protesting soldiers: Could you guys be more short-sighted? Think of the royalties, the merchandising, the breakfast cereal ("Stays crunchy in milk for six days!"), all of it! Wake up and smell the moolah. And lastly, to the players who might be disheartened: If you want to shoot vaguely Middle Eastern people, would you rather do it in defense of American ideals? Or in pursuit of a diamond-encrusted skull? Yeah, we thought so.
[Thanks, Will]
Reader Comments (123)
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 12:26PM garnsr said
Another instance of video games not being considered a real medium.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 12:39PM theCHENRY said
Aw jeez. I was actually looking forward to hearing more about this title. So we're totally ok with games like MoH and CoD that've depicted some of the most difficult battles in modern history, but this game is a no-no?
There are already movies and stuff that deal with the same subject matter as this game, but they didn't get shouted down. This is ad.
I'm disappointed that Konami didn't have the balls to release this.
There are already movies and stuff that deal with the same subject matter as this game, but they didn't get shouted down. This is ad.
I'm disappointed that Konami didn't have the balls to release this.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 1:00PM (Unverified) said
What a bunch of pussies. For anyone who agrees you guys are idiots like the rest of the sensetive world. The game could be said about all the WWII games yet no one minds. I would have loved to play a game that would in some way show me how things are. Obviously I wouldn't believe it 100% to the core, because it's still just a game.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 1:01PM iceveiled said
This just pisses me off. Censorship and silly political correctness win again.
Hopefully a publisher with BALLS will pick up this game.
Very disappointed in Konami.
Hopefully a publisher with BALLS will pick up this game.
Very disappointed in Konami.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 1:04PM (Unverified) said
Wow Konami way to pussy out under public pressure. The game would have sold well due to the controversy surrounding regardless how good it was. If the game was done properly like the way the movie Black Hawk Down was done where you can really connect with the soldiers and what their going through. And not the typical gungho nonsense you see in 90% of movies and games where soldiers don't feel any emotion. well I hope a publisher with some balls picks up this game like maybe take-two after all their controversy on GTA SA this would be a breeze for them
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 1:05PM User Formerly Known as Dave said
Maybe it was the waterboarding mini-game...
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 1:23PM (Unverified) said
They cancelled it? There goes all respect I once had for Konami (which in the SNES days was a lot). So because some talking head politifucks (who don't buy games anyway) throw a hissyfit because the enemies in a war-game are non-german, they cancel the entire game?
This is beyond absurdity. SO what are the rules? War games can only be near-identical duplicates, covering WW2 and Vietnam, anyone who attempts any innovation is to be shunned as evil.
Seriously Konami, FUCK you.
This is beyond absurdity. SO what are the rules? War games can only be near-identical duplicates, covering WW2 and Vietnam, anyone who attempts any innovation is to be shunned as evil.
Seriously Konami, FUCK you.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 1:26PM JoshMilewski said
wat
Hope this game finds a better publisher.
Hope this game finds a better publisher.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 1:36PM iceveiled said
Controversy sells. Too bad Konami, you had a golden opportunity to take a page out of Rockstar's book.
I hope they don't own the rights of the game so that the talented people at Atomic can shop the game around to a publisher who doesn't have a bunch of whiny hippies holding stock...
To all those whiny peace-freaks crying about how it's bad to "trivialize the war in iraq by turning it into a form of entertainment" I say piss off. Nobody uttered a single complaint when 100's of games came out about WW2, in which TENS OF MILLIONS of lives were lost (both military and civilian), but yet people get squeamish because a game might come out featuring a war that's still being fought. Go suck a SAW.
I hope they don't own the rights of the game so that the talented people at Atomic can shop the game around to a publisher who doesn't have a bunch of whiny hippies holding stock...
To all those whiny peace-freaks crying about how it's bad to "trivialize the war in iraq by turning it into a form of entertainment" I say piss off. Nobody uttered a single complaint when 100's of games came out about WW2, in which TENS OF MILLIONS of lives were lost (both military and civilian), but yet people get squeamish because a game might come out featuring a war that's still being fought. Go suck a SAW.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 2:14PM thebigJA said
Hey, dont knock generic blobs moving around! World of Goo was awesome!
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 1:49PM Levi said
Short and sweet: this is bs.
I don't like generic war games anymore. Haven't since Medal of Honor 1 on PS1. This game interested me because of the nature of the setting. I thought it would be very interesting to play through a recreation of something I saw on the news at the actual time of the event.
It's ridiculous that this is controversial, and there's nothing wrong with WWII games. Hell, I've heard first hand accounts of people who have had tours in Iraq who say they want the game to be released. It's probably just the families of soldiers who lost their lives over there, which is tragic of course, but if they were alive, I'm thinking they would have wanted to see it too!
Lastly, the more we give in to protestors, the more censorship wins. It is the opposite of progression in a society IMO. It's a shame.
I don't like generic war games anymore. Haven't since Medal of Honor 1 on PS1. This game interested me because of the nature of the setting. I thought it would be very interesting to play through a recreation of something I saw on the news at the actual time of the event.
It's ridiculous that this is controversial, and there's nothing wrong with WWII games. Hell, I've heard first hand accounts of people who have had tours in Iraq who say they want the game to be released. It's probably just the families of soldiers who lost their lives over there, which is tragic of course, but if they were alive, I'm thinking they would have wanted to see it too!
Lastly, the more we give in to protestors, the more censorship wins. It is the opposite of progression in a society IMO. It's a shame.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 2:16PM thebigJA said
both of those statements are evidence for why the war WAS about acquiring oil. duh.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 2:18PM thebigJA said
why arent my replies posting after the comments i reply to? wtf
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 2:25PM (Unverified) said
Great so now Modern Warfare 2 just got canceled because we have a war still taking place, oh and Halo 3, and Killzone 2 is being banned from the US because they depict possible future events which could cause concern among the Amish or something.
Brilliant, stupid this is. I understand a part of it, but lets be honest it's not going to be ANYTHING as brutal as the HBO series from many months ago or the many shows and footage shown every day.
This game is wrong, but it''s ok to take pictures of our dead soldiers coffins and plaster them across the air waves and magazines. BS!
Not mad about the game side, but rather the concept because it''s bogus and I really would like to know if this was political.
Brilliant, stupid this is. I understand a part of it, but lets be honest it's not going to be ANYTHING as brutal as the HBO series from many months ago or the many shows and footage shown every day.
This game is wrong, but it''s ok to take pictures of our dead soldiers coffins and plaster them across the air waves and magazines. BS!
Not mad about the game side, but rather the concept because it''s bogus and I really would like to know if this was political.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 3:25PM Danjer047 said
Censorship is wrong...
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 3:25PM (Unverified) said
so from my understanding if this was a fictional game "based on actual events" it'd be okay. i mean iraq would have to be renamed erack and the such just to make sure no one mixes up the 2. anyone else hate that movie home of the brave. it made it seem like everyone who goes to war (at least in erack) comes back mentally unstable and just generally screwed up.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 3:55PM Omnistatic said
considering that the US army has a game where you can kill their own soldiers (America's Army)... is this really all that bad?
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 4:01PM (Unverified) said
But Army of Two is getting a sequel, good work society!
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 4:44PM (Unverified) said
Good god...... there's a lot of comments on this one. I don't even know where to begin...... maybe I'll just summerize:
I was in the military for ten years. I've been to Iraq (recently), and can vouch for the validity of post-tramautic stress disorder in recent "vets" regarding video games. I'm no "statician", but 99% of the soldiers I knew that deployed to a conflict area continued to play standardized FPS / war games well after they returned. There's always that select 1% that might become un-nerved by playing a modern day style FPS, but most did not. I believe there's even a thread over at www.us.playstation.com where they talk about ex-military types playing war games after they return home.
But....... the majority of people that complained about the game had a semi-valid points, it "could be interpreted as disrespectful" to make such a game based on such events when such events are so fresh in peoples minds (not to mention the soldiers themselves). I remember reading about Scott Helvenston death in 2004 (one of the four contractors who was shot, burned, torn apart, and their bodies then hung on a bridge). Scott was an ex-Seal (decorated at that), and was kniwn within the media world (worked on military movies, that reality show "Combat Zone".... I think he was on the blue team). Point is, he was a (as well as the others as far as I know) "good guys". And even though this might not be in the game, it was the catalist for the first battle, which led to the second battle (aka this game).
You see the fine line people have to walk on regarding this??
Now this I get this!
It also could be said (as many have pointed out) that there are similar forms of media out there depicting "recent tramatic events" (movies: World Trade Center, United 93, Stop Loss, and way too many documentaries / mokumentaries). But when these came out..... no one really made a "peep" afterwards! All the hum-drum died down, the films were released, later redistributed on DVD / Blu-Ray, and all the executive types fell asleep on their big expensive pillows (next to their expensive super-model wives).
With this game, there in lies the factor........ it's a game! It's not cost effective! If a game gets a varietable "poop-ton" of negative press, gets released, and the hundred million plus dollars it took to make it goes down the crapper..... all because the distributor is a (insert all the collective, way intelligent sh1t everyone has said thus far)!!!!! But in the end and because of some mediocre reviews,the brodening ablilty...............to share your games, it's one hell of a gamble if it doesn't pan out. And with people jumping on the "disrespect bandwagon", it's hard for a someone to differenciate between the truely offended people and the ones that "just feel that way man!".
So any company (during these craptastic times at least), should not necessarily be castrated right away for shucking a potential public relations nightmare! Especially if there are plenty of other companies sitting around waiting for "the next best thing", this could be their's!
I, for one, prefer my games less based on "reality", and more based on "probability" (ie- not a fan of WWII FPS, but COD4 really "wet my whistle"- my Grandpa). I find more effort goes into the creation of a respectable story, and or new game play experience, rather then sticking to a judgemental gaming crowd who are "said supporters of such real events" (good or bad, and specifically referring to FPS or war in general). After all, I've loosely been waiting for Bethesda's "Rogue Warrior" (free roaming ex-navy SEAL "Mercenaries" style game play......but from the people that brought you Fallout 3) but now it looks like another "based on real events" kind of game, with some of the gameplay highlights gone from the "highlighted areas".
So as I stated, real vet here, real Iraq experience, personal feelings: it's the persons perspective that plays into YEA / NAY on the opine of general "release". It's not necessarily the effects of recent combative situations on people that others should be worried about. It's what the game is going to bring to the table in respect to seriousness and (if they were to go this route) authenticity and "respect" toward the members of the military and civilians that lost their lives during the actual battle itself.
I for one (as a former soldier) do not have a problem with the development of such a game, as long as the are tasteful (ie- regenerating lives/health....... "F" that) and respectful. Although the war itself took place five odd years ago, it's still fresh in peoples minds, so naturally it will cause debate. If the battle itself wasn't such a media frenzy, and received all the attention it did (in the unfortunate wake of the horribly deaths of four americans) this game would get made un-noticed. If a game distributor / creator did a little research, they would find there were tons of other operations that were beneficial toward the liberating efforts, and would probably make great back drops to a FPS...... but alas..... people are creative anymore (ha).
On that note, I'm out. Hopefully some of the negative comments will die down, and people will except that Konami gave up the right to distribute and some other company probably will down the road. Later fellow PS3 fanboys!
- MrOrang3
psn - MrBook
Side Note - Yes I know the four american contractor that were killed worked for Blackwater. But keep in mind, we as a people do not blame the many for the problems of the few(ie- the recent events that has kicked Blackwater out of Iraq). Aka, do not start a "we hate Blackwater" side story to this thread, and we loose all focus.
I was in the military for ten years. I've been to Iraq (recently), and can vouch for the validity of post-tramautic stress disorder in recent "vets" regarding video games. I'm no "statician", but 99% of the soldiers I knew that deployed to a conflict area continued to play standardized FPS / war games well after they returned. There's always that select 1% that might become un-nerved by playing a modern day style FPS, but most did not. I believe there's even a thread over at www.us.playstation.com where they talk about ex-military types playing war games after they return home.
But....... the majority of people that complained about the game had a semi-valid points, it "could be interpreted as disrespectful" to make such a game based on such events when such events are so fresh in peoples minds (not to mention the soldiers themselves). I remember reading about Scott Helvenston death in 2004 (one of the four contractors who was shot, burned, torn apart, and their bodies then hung on a bridge). Scott was an ex-Seal (decorated at that), and was kniwn within the media world (worked on military movies, that reality show "Combat Zone".... I think he was on the blue team). Point is, he was a (as well as the others as far as I know) "good guys". And even though this might not be in the game, it was the catalist for the first battle, which led to the second battle (aka this game).
You see the fine line people have to walk on regarding this??
Now this I get this!
It also could be said (as many have pointed out) that there are similar forms of media out there depicting "recent tramatic events" (movies: World Trade Center, United 93, Stop Loss, and way too many documentaries / mokumentaries). But when these came out..... no one really made a "peep" afterwards! All the hum-drum died down, the films were released, later redistributed on DVD / Blu-Ray, and all the executive types fell asleep on their big expensive pillows (next to their expensive super-model wives).
With this game, there in lies the factor........ it's a game! It's not cost effective! If a game gets a varietable "poop-ton" of negative press, gets released, and the hundred million plus dollars it took to make it goes down the crapper..... all because the distributor is a (insert all the collective, way intelligent sh1t everyone has said thus far)!!!!! But in the end and because of some mediocre reviews,the brodening ablilty...............to share your games, it's one hell of a gamble if it doesn't pan out. And with people jumping on the "disrespect bandwagon", it's hard for a someone to differenciate between the truely offended people and the ones that "just feel that way man!".
So any company (during these craptastic times at least), should not necessarily be castrated right away for shucking a potential public relations nightmare! Especially if there are plenty of other companies sitting around waiting for "the next best thing", this could be their's!
I, for one, prefer my games less based on "reality", and more based on "probability" (ie- not a fan of WWII FPS, but COD4 really "wet my whistle"- my Grandpa). I find more effort goes into the creation of a respectable story, and or new game play experience, rather then sticking to a judgemental gaming crowd who are "said supporters of such real events" (good or bad, and specifically referring to FPS or war in general). After all, I've loosely been waiting for Bethesda's "Rogue Warrior" (free roaming ex-navy SEAL "Mercenaries" style game play......but from the people that brought you Fallout 3) but now it looks like another "based on real events" kind of game, with some of the gameplay highlights gone from the "highlighted areas".
So as I stated, real vet here, real Iraq experience, personal feelings: it's the persons perspective that plays into YEA / NAY on the opine of general "release". It's not necessarily the effects of recent combative situations on people that others should be worried about. It's what the game is going to bring to the table in respect to seriousness and (if they were to go this route) authenticity and "respect" toward the members of the military and civilians that lost their lives during the actual battle itself.
I for one (as a former soldier) do not have a problem with the development of such a game, as long as the are tasteful (ie- regenerating lives/health....... "F" that) and respectful. Although the war itself took place five odd years ago, it's still fresh in peoples minds, so naturally it will cause debate. If the battle itself wasn't such a media frenzy, and received all the attention it did (in the unfortunate wake of the horribly deaths of four americans) this game would get made un-noticed. If a game distributor / creator did a little research, they would find there were tons of other operations that were beneficial toward the liberating efforts, and would probably make great back drops to a FPS...... but alas..... people are creative anymore (ha).
On that note, I'm out. Hopefully some of the negative comments will die down, and people will except that Konami gave up the right to distribute and some other company probably will down the road. Later fellow PS3 fanboys!
- MrOrang3
psn - MrBook
Side Note - Yes I know the four american contractor that were killed worked for Blackwater. But keep in mind, we as a people do not blame the many for the problems of the few(ie- the recent events that has kicked Blackwater out of Iraq). Aka, do not start a "we hate Blackwater" side story to this thread, and we loose all focus.
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 4:45PM juggalotusmx said
To Justin McElroy. Are you for real? If so, Pleas i mean pleas, would you care to explain to me what do you mean by American Ideals? I won't even argue about what America are you talking about, the Continent or the Country. 2nd. Whats the difference between "Black Gold and Diamond-Encrusted Skull" 3rd. was you trying to be funny or sarcastic? If so why every post in here needs that extra spice of humor? are u a comedian? If not, what a shame...
Posted: Apr 27th 2009 7:27PM (Unverified) said
I'm going to echo the comments of several previous posters.
Let me start by saying that this is a game that the odds of me ever playing are very slim. I could personally care less if this game is ever made. It's just not my cup of tea.
That said, I think any outrage aimed at the release of this game is rather pathetic. Does anyone know how the game will play out? What is the story line going to be? Will it have a negative or positive spin on the actual events or will it simply be nothing but a generic shooter? And does it really matter?
To me it's pretty simple. If you don't like the subject matter of game or a movie or a piece of music, don't play it or watch it or listen to it. I'm not going to tell anyone what they should value in life and I sure as hell don't want anyone telling me what I should.
The above is only my opinion, and as I've learn over the years, the only thing a person is an expert on is their opinion.
Posted: May 1st 2009 12:58PM (Unverified) said
"If you want to shoot vaguely Middle Eastern people, would you rather do it in defense of American ideals? Or in pursuit of a diamond-encrusted skull? Yeah, we thought so."
I'd rather do so in defense of American ideals. We need a few good war on terror games where the player gets to kill Taliban and Al Queda terrorists! Seriously, where are the games where you can kill Jihadists. If they had video games during World War 2, they let players kill Nazis and Imperial Japanese troops. Come on, where are all the patriotic war on terror games?
I'd rather do so in defense of American ideals. We need a few good war on terror games where the player gets to kill Taliban and Al Queda terrorists! Seriously, where are the games where you can kill Jihadists. If they had video games during World War 2, they let players kill Nazis and Imperial Japanese troops. Come on, where are all the patriotic war on terror games?





