Rumor: Sony to unveil new motion-sensing controller at E3

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Hey Cody. Nintendo has a historical tendency to retain what works onto the next generation of its console. They moved to the N64 but kept the cartridge format even though it was clear a disc based system was the norm. They added rumble, though. However they moved to the Gamecube but they retained the exact same rumble motors from the Rumble pack with no alterations. Moving on to the Wii the hardware is just marginally better than the GC (for economic reasons, but still the same). With the Wiimote working for this gen, that's the element they will keep for the next console and they will focus on improving the graphics engine again. This is more the case since they are finishing with the construction of the Wiimote now with the addition of the Motion Plus, thus preparing it to leave it as is for a future generation of consoles.

The reason I say "finishing the construction" is because Motion Plus is nothing more than that: let's add the three remaining axes that we didn't ship originally with the device and that Sony already has in the Sixaxis. Sony had this nailed from day one but their Achilles heel- trying to do so much at once- made them loose focus of pushing the device further. There's no exclusive PS3 game I have played that doesn't work perfectly with the Sixaxis motion controls.

And LArs, I completely agree- Sony should be pushing the PSEye a lot more. No controller at all gameplay, motion tracking, and gestural interfaces are truly the next true revolution. How come no one has created a new version of Anti Grav (probably the only game to push the tech beyond punching something just left or right) is beyond me. Maybe there's still hope: Eyedentify still appears as listed as a future release though no date is set. Here hoping...

Wtf pat?

I'm sure he meant to reply to the comment below you, so forgive him :]

Is that what you call your penis now?

IMO, the device will only be stupid if it turns out to be like the Eye with almost no game support, though the Eye can be used as both a camera and a mic.

I was hoping an external sensor device wouldn't be required, but it looks like it is. Oh well, as long as its priced affordably, has rechargeable batteries and has titles that support it I'll be sure and take a look.

i'll assume you're a Sony shareholder. i mean, it seems to make perfect sense that they'd be the only ones worried about Sony's "situation".

as far as i'm concerned, Uncharted 2, inFamous, MAG, WKC, A Crack in Time and other first-party exclusives makes their "situation" perfectly fine.

I don't see any Wii fans panicking. There's hardly even any of the usual LOLing at Sony for blatantly copying the competition.

Actually, I only seem to see you panicking over how dumb you'll look once this comes out and you change your tune on motion controls (because SONY is doing it now! Yeah!)

Whatever, though.

I'll likely be changing my tune on motion controls if something like this hits, but only because I see it having more potential for the kind of games that I'm into. The Wii was marketed first and foremost as an 'everybody' system, but a lot of developers took that as an invitation to make simple gamesexclusively for the system. I have no problem with simple games (that don't suck, you know, like Geometry Wars: Galaxies), but the fact that the motion controller the Wii utilized was, uh, just for the Wii, I didn't (or shouldn't have) planned on seeing it fully utilized as far as 'core' gaming goes. There are some great examples of how the Wii Remote should be used on the Wii, but honestly, I have no doubt that if similar motion controls were adopted on any other system, you'd see the potential of said controls tapped almost immediately by devs who'd be more than eager to make games that appeal to those of us who own these systems.


Oooooof course, even though I've explained myself rationally, months from now (if this does happen) folks'll just go 'dur wel ur just on there side cuz its sony cuz its cool to haet nintendo'. I get accused of 'doing what's cool on the internet' every day, and it's BS. Whenever I bring up Nintendo or Sonic or any of that shit, that's all I hear... it's as though the opposition just can't put up an argument of worth. I don't mean to generalize here, that's just what I've experienced, even around here.

I like motion control in games when it's not the main focus on input but used more like the cherry on top of a sundae. I mean, you're not buying the sundae for the cherry, but it's a nice little something extra.

Everyone but Sony seems to know that the coolest thing would be eye toy gestural controls, face integration, etc. ala Minority Report or something.

But whatever, I actually would like it if they just offered a split Dualshock. Basically just like the dualshock now, but with the ability to split it in half. Maybe throw in motion control for both halves too. I could go for some HD Bass Master motion control games.

"But the second generation of a technology can always use the experiences of the first gen as a resource and improve upon it. Which is why I am more optimistic for the solutions that will be presented by microsoft and sony."

What makes you think Nintendo's second generation motion controlling offering isn't going to completely trounce whatever offering Sony and Microsoft put out next gen? Because chances are, it will.

Oh c'mon el serpiente's comments were funny guys.

E^9?

Damn! I forgot how to do math

E^6. add the exponents not multiply :(

Mr. Joystiq sir can you delete my posts lower down that were supposed to be replies?

Swing and a miss. You were right the first time.

Add exponents when they are multiplied: (x^3)(x^3)(x^3) = x^(3+3+3)
Multiply exponents when they are stacked: x^(3*3)

Yeah, I realized that right after posting the second one, but I'd rather look stupid then post 5 messages in a row lol.

It would only have been 3 messages in a row. Maths, huh?

There are two more further down. you would have seen them by now most likely.

How much you wanna bet there will be people who ragged on the Wii for its motion controller, but love the Idea now that Sony is doing it.

Why is hardcore in quotations? Are you implying that they are mini game fests?

"hardcore" is in quotes because "hardcore" is just another self-appointed title some gamers give themselves to make it feel like they are cooler.

And considering that "hardcore" these days apparently translates to "Gritty shooters and lots of grey!" yes, it does deserve to be in quotes.

"Hardcore" games also refers to things like Zelda, Final Fantasy and Street Fighter, etc, and those are far from gritty shooters. Hardcore simply means something that isn't a silly collection of minigames aimed at morons.

And i see how games like "Ellen Whittakers Horse Life" & "Baby sitting part" come into the picture of hardcore titles, sony and Microsoft both CLEARLY have better titles than nintendo wii, a great way to prove this is how even multiplat game get a hugh CUT on the wii,

e.g:
Sean whites snowboarding on playstation 3 and xbox 360
Sean whites snowboarding: "Road Trip" for the Wii

(Yes i know that game is poop)

But who cares if sony are making some new sort of motion sensing, my point is IF U AINT PLAYING IT OR DONT HAVE THE CONSOLE....WHY THE HELL DOES IT BOTHER YOU? stick to your games like "Petz: Monkey Madness" cause there obviously the "hardcore" titles that you play all day.

(and before you decide to downvote me, i DO have a wii, but only play it when i nephew & neice are arround the house, cause of course there the type of gamers u play only u know, 5-15 year old kids, and mid-life crisis Adults)

Wii will never have great titles like
Gears of war,
Killzone 2
God Of war
Mass effect

It shall only have games like "big mommas Cook" out.

Now, Go ahead DownVote me, like it will do anything to block out the TRUTH!!!

The only Great? Awsome? Ledgendar games the wii will hold?

Ledgend of Zelda & Super Smash Bros, the only reason i have a wii sitting downstairs.

Lol Orex

Wii will never have great titles like
Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime 3
The Conduit
Smash Bros Brawl


Oh wait............. *resists urge to make list 5x bigger*

My point is, just because there are lots of shitty Wii games that can barely be called games at all, doesn't mean there are no good hardcore games whatsoever. If you don't own a Wii, you're the one missing out on them.

Orex, that large post of yours makes my eyes bleed.

foetoid

you could have owned a wii and played them all and sold it by now and wouldn't have missed much since brawl.

i'm keeping mine because i do plan to play the conduit but 1 fps isn't going to make non wii gamers jealous.

You all need to look up Muramasa: The Demon's Blade for a 'hardcore' game.

Mario and Zelda are not hardcore, they can pretty much be played by anyone, not people who focus on gaming.

I own both a PS3 and a Wii, and I get a delightful mix of games on both (and if I really need to, I borrow a friend's 360 for one or two titles).

Yes I put hardcore in quotes because it's just a title. The range of games on the PS3 runs the gamut from some pretty focused titles to child's play.

Exactly. Since they basically don't support the Eye anymore, it would be great if this actually let me put it to use.

Imagine if the Wiimote worked.

Boo!

I could try to imagine Bowser, or just walk over, turn on the Wii, and feel it work.

Finally figured out this stupid comment system.

you can't re-reply to someone without reloading the page. you can press reply but it wont actually do it.

now to look like more of an ass and re-re-re-reply to the original message :(

It'll find a way to not-work again. Many many internet experts have been screwed by it. You learn to live and weep. I've seen many a gamer leaping off rooftops, cursing the words of "Joystiq Comment System FTL"!!!!

I think you will enjoy it man. I own both and I'm playing my PS3 more and more lately. The only reason I buy a game on 360 is if it's exclusive (gears) or has exclusive DLC (gta4).... or if the PS3 port simply sucks (orange box). PS' online community is a lot different but they're coming around. Don't expect many people to have mics though....

why exactly? The kinds of HD games you were after are mostly multiplats anyways, right?

Yeah, I don't get that either. Why is it a trade "up"?
Tyler, isn't the reason you buy a specific console because of it's exclusive games/content? I'm confused. I have a 360 because I'm a big fan of Gears, Halo, Mass Effect, etc. When the PS3 comes out with some exclusives I'm interested in, (and I'm sure they will be doing so very soon), I will buy one.

Yeah. Mainly because I think my 360 is on the verge of it's third death (I'm having color issues), and I won't stand for it a third time.

And the PS3 is also getting Dead Rising 2, Bayonetta, KOF XII and BlazBlue, which are the only HD games on my radar this year, really.
I really don't play the 360 that often (or any games, save Rhythm Heaven, lately), and although I loathe XMB, I've been wanting a better media center. Plus PS3 has a better D pad for fighters and I can actually find arcade sticks for PS3. They're nonexistent on 360 even still.
Plus, aside from Rare (who keeps releasing duds), I generally prefer Sony's first party to Microsoft's...although that isn't really saying much :/
The only thing I think I'll REALLY miss on the 360 is Ikaruga, actually.

But I'm not going to make any decision until after E3.

Hmmm, I'm the opposite. I have a 360 and a PS3 and I buy all multi-plat games for the 360 due to my preference for the controller and gamer points. Actually, so far, I've mainly used the PS3 for Blu-ray as there aren't too many exclusives that I'm dying to play yet and I'm still catching up on my 360 games.

Granted I just got the PS3 recently and I much prefer the 360 in just about every way, but I'll warm up to it eventually I'm sure...