GTA: Chinatown Wars jacks more wallets, sells 74K in April

It won't.

Why not?

Unlike the PSP GTAs, Chinatown is far too handheld centric. It plays like a handheld game and it looks like one. Plus, outside of the DS it would lose its appeal greatly.

Remember the GTA for GBA? Why should this be any different?

Maybe it'll come back as a collection some day, but that's just as unlikely. It'll rest where it died.

Massmass, I have no idea what you mean. The PSP games are both incredible handheld titles and the PSP a great portable gaming platform. Its sleep at any time function makes everything pick up and play. The DS (original) on the other hand is an ergonomic nightmare, top heavy with that tiny stylus. Two low resolution screens, one touchable. Flawed sleep. Ugh. I would much rather game with any one of the 3 Game Boy Advance variations as they were wonderful portable systems. The DS not at all.

The Lite and DSi are much better, design-wise, compared to the original.

Chinatown Wars is, very much, a DS game. It simply wouldn't work on another platform. At least in its current state. With the two PSP games, it was a much easier task of porting them to PS2.

And what's flawed about the DS's sleep mode?! Close the system, and it's sleeping. It's that simple...

It's more of a standby mode and the DS loses power rapidly during it (compared to the PSP). Also some games don't do it at all (animal crossing). They only turn off the backlight, and GameBoy games won't even do that.

@Required: What he was saying is that the PSP GTA games were basically the same game style as the PS2 ones except, well, on the PSP - and as such were easily ported. This would not be nearly so easy to port since it's far more designed around a portable hardware that creates an experience which consoles haven't (to date) replicated, so there's really no comparable piece of hardware to even try to put it on. Granted, the Wii comes closer (point vs. touch) but it's still hardly the same thing, and the mechanics wouldn't work the same.

@required: It sounds like your criticisms of the DS are ones which were addressed in the Lite (and, I'd assume, the DSi). The top screen of the Lite is considerably lighter than that of the original model. And I don't know the numbers for the original, but the Lite can, from full charge, last for 2 weeks in sleep mode. I can assure you that GTA: CW does go to sleep when you close the lid. Consider too that the brightness of the Lite makes the screens far more attractive and less wearing on the eyes.

As for porting it to a different system, it would be ridiculous. The PSP games were ported so easily not because of a gameplay style, but an input style. The PSP controls are basically those from the PS controller, minus some buttons. The DS, on the other hand, relies on the touch screen in addition to traditional input. GTA makes significant use of the touch screen, something another console would be unable to replicate. The Wii would be ineffective too, because of the precision required to hot wire a car, for instance.

GTA: CW was designed from the ground up for the DS and because of that, it is the only system upon which it will truly work. The PSP games used a modified GTA3 engine and, like I said, used the PSP input. And come on, it's $20 now. You cannot go wrong picking it up.

I'm just hoping that it might get ported to the next version of some other device. Maybe the next PSP will have a touch screen or the next iPhone will have buttons. Then again, maybe I'll get a new DS and put mine to pasture.

Yes, for God's sake, get a new DS!

Both models:
+Brighter, clearer screens
+Thicker, longer styli
+Not ugly as sin

DS Lite:
+Still has GBA playback (but cartridges stick out 1cm)

DSi:
+Improved Internet functionality, and downloadable games
+Still has "clicky" buttons like GBA SP and DS (DS Lite's buttons are really mushy and harder to pull off diagonals on)

Animal Crossing is one of the few games that doesn't go to sleep (Duck Amuck being another one; and WayForward had to get special permission from Nintendo to do so). This is due to the fact that stuff is meant to always go in in AC, even if you aren't playing.

And at this point, Wild World is over 3 years old. Time to fime other games to play!

Because you have your secret insight into development budgets and publisher expectations, right?

Well, I'm sure by now the developers of hardcore games on Wii and DS "expect" their games to sell horribly, but does that make it a success when they do sell bad since it met expectations?

I don't know, I'm not going to debate much in this thread. I'm just interested to see how people like you Mr Khan are going to spin this one.

Ironically tmac, you are the purest form of "fanboy" I've ever seen. Noone else could hate another console or brand name as much as you.

Are you employed by Sony and/or Microsoft? No? Thought not.

Ah, but what if I was working for them? You'll never know for sure, and that's the beauty of it :P

Anyway you're wrong. I'm not a fanboy for hating the wii, as a fanboy has a wierd obsessive love for 1 console from 1 company like Fernando with nintendo, Killjebus with Sony, and Sprinkles for 360. Now, if you called me a hater then yes that's more accurate. I like my ps3 and 360, and it's clear they're superior to the wii, but I wouldn't even think about bringing either of them up as my favorite consoles ever, not yet at least.

tmac...

I'm not going to spin anything, just hoing to say facts.

Aparently you forgot that this game is selling worlwide, not only USA. The game has been constantly on the EU charts, since the release. The game is near half million now... and believe (you know is true, no matter what you say) this game will sell more than the PSP games. It's just a matter of time...

"I'm not going to debate much in this thread"

I'm sorry, but since when have you ever had a debate? A debate is an intelligent argument between two or more persons with confliting opinions.

You don't debate, you troll fanboys and games you don't even care about for the sole purpose of pissing people off.

that's rich coming from vegeta, who can only do SARCASTIC REPLIES IN ALL CAPS to people. I wouldn't call that debating either.

And yes, I fell for his baiting but I couldn't resist pointing out the irony. No more after this :P

*sigh* Tmac, let me just make this as clear to you as possible. ***Development for the Wii and DS costs a fraction of what development for the PS3 and 360 costs.*** I guess you must be too young to remember, but last generation, 100,000-300,000 copies sold was enough to break even on a game, if not make a tidy profit. Wii and DS games only have to sell about the same amount. Because of the increased costs of development on the 360 and PS3, games created for those systems MUST sell upwards of a million copies just to make back the money invested in them. THIS IS WHY A DS GAME CAN SELL 150,000 AND NOT BE A FAILURE. Please, please, try to understand this.

"that's rich coming from vegeta, who can only do SARCASTIC REPLIES IN ALL CAPS to people. I wouldn't call that debating either."

Yep because that's the only thing I do. Seriously look in my profile and you'll see over a 1000 posts of me typing in all caps being sarcastic.


Sigh.

My point still stands, you don't debate at all. You just troll.

I bring up tons of great points, but because I'm open about my dislike for the wii people like you just pass me off as a troll (plus it's because you can't think of a response).

I'll give you guys one to think about now. Why is it ok in the gaming community when people want to pass off a game because it's too dark or grey, but when people pass off a game because it looks too kiddy and they don't like those types of games, they're immediately called trolls and/or shallow idiots? As many dark brown/grey games that are on 360/ps3, there's as many kiddy looking games on the wii.

Think about that one.

No, it's because when it comes to anything remotely Wii/DS related you're about biggest troll on the site which everyone realizes.

Your 'great points' are nothing more than you always saying how you're right about everything, not intelligently discussing anything Wii/DS related, taking other people's comments as further proof that you're initial point was right, and not listening to anyone.

@ tmacairjordan87

"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis

I've posted that before and I'll post that again. If you automatically write something off because it's "kiddy", not only are you missing out on some amazing games, but you're showing just how shallow and immature you really are.

But that doesn't answer my question, it basically just repeats what I've heard throughout the internet on here, Kotaku, etc. Why is it ok to write off games like Killzone 2 because they're too dark, but not ok to write off, say, Boom Blox because it looks too kiddy? (Just using examples here).

Also, I'm not necessarily talking about me here. I've seen tons of people get torn up by w/e website I'm on because they said "I don't want to play this because it looks too kiddy and I'm not a fan of those games.

But in every shooter post or other game that looks kinda dark, the sentiment that it's ok to hate it because it doesn't use every color in the rainbow is almost universal. I don't understand that double standard at all.

Actually is a somewhat legitimate point to address. It probably has to do with the gaming media's stereotypical vision of a good game. The stereotype is something similar to Killzone 2, and therefore it can be called hum-drum in that regard, while any game with style cannot be blasted on that point alone because hey, at least its trying to be different

It isn't right, but most of the norms of the gaming media aren't right either...

"the sentiment that it's ok to hate it because it doesn't use every color in the rainbow is almost universal" No, it's not. Those people get just as ripped as those who rip on stuff for being excessively kiddy. Likely just your slanted perception of everything causing you not to notice it as much. What it now sounds like your basically saying, is that 'because others troll, so will I'

" Now, if you called me a hater then yes that's more accurate."


smh.... And that makes you look any better how? Actually, that makes you look even more desperate.

I have Vice city stories and i like CW much better. more fun and also easier to pick up and put down at any time.

What's the Best Buy deal?

I'm actually planning on picking this up once I get my DSi.

$20 for it about two weeks ago. I believe it was just a one week deal, though. :(

I never really liked GTA either. But I picked this up because out of principle and I'm McLovin every second of it. Been playing about 15 hours and only 35% done of the actual story.

Buy it, you wont regret it.

My bad.

I never really liked GTA either. But I picked this up because out of principle and I'm McLovin every second of it. Been playing about 15 hours and only 35% done of the actual story.

Buy it, you wont regret it.

I would just like to say that I agree with everything you just said knor. Spot on.

>All of my friends (and me) bought 4, and played it for awhile... but then just lost interest

Er.. doesn't that pretty much happen with every game anyone purchases ever? That's kind of the nature of... life. At some point, you will lose interest in something you enjoy right now.

I hope not to masturbation! :(

You will. Believe me, you will.