Guitar Hero 5 getting Music Studio tweaks, Band Moments

I've done some research (lol Wikipedia) and found some tracks/artists that they're putting in. Here are ones that haven't been in a music game (to my knowledge).

Vampire Weekend
The White Stripes
Johnny Cash
Tom Petty
Kings of Leon
Stevie Wonder
Attack! Attack!
Alter Bridge

That's 8.

this is pretty much what popped into my head when I read that

They might not have been in a video game for a good reason

But wait, how many of those 25 will there actually be left by the time this game is released. I've got my money on Harmonix beating them to the punch.

Johnny Cash is In Lips.

I am SO pissed that White Stripes are in this game. They're my favorite band but I've sworn off Activision published rhythm games forever since I feel Rock Band and Harmonix are superior in every way.

I just hope HMX releases some White Stripes DLC, then I'll feel better.

We need Fell In Love With A Girl in Lego Rock Band. It would be amazing.

My thoughts exactly. What happened to that whole "we're trying to do things differently than Harmonix (despite the fact they did it perfectly the 1st time around)"?

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

I love how Activision & Neversoft started out being so against looking like they were copying Harmonix, even though the changes they made were a detriment to usability. Now they're just not even hiding it.

Son of a BITCH!

@ Christ-ian:

Your last post seems to flow effortlessy alongside that avatar, lol.

Much thanks.

Yeah... hey internet! Stop making me look like a fuckin asshole!

Yeah, but you can't have it any other way.

Is that the developers fault or the end-user? Its actually a very cool feature that is under used and under appreciated by most. (Although the sample rate on the sounds could be better)

Ah, but you CAN make your own music!

That looks good on the back of the box.. probably.

I'm sure it's a decent enough feature, so perhaps it is the users fault.. But it's clear most people just aren't interested, so it does seem like a massive waste of time. Why include a mode that people don't use or want?

Amen.

Though I would rather hear about a patch for RB2 that adds the various little features people have been requesting.

I want to be able to activate/deactivate songs, dammit!

I see what u did there.

It's true though, the music studio is pretty cool and orignal, especially since it's basically FREE. If they raise the sample rate that thing would be AWESOME! Of course the Internet would still complain...sigh

Trying to score some "free" studio gear, eh?

I'm down for it...Activision: BRING IT! I'll drop $200 for everything mentioned above, even without the game.

Yeah, that's my main problem with the GH series. Well, that and the utterly horrific art style...which looks like they're fixing this time around.

Still, I'm good with RB.

Apparently, most of the GH:WT songs will be playable in GH5.

I wonder where they got that idea?

It's not very hard to reproduce these games then obviously, their using the same shell with different music and new tracks. Other then time spent in studio, I can't see them doing a whole lot of work..

Guitar Hero - 2005
Guitar Hero 2 - 2006-2007(360)
Guitar Hero 3 - 2007
Guitar Hero WT - 2008
Guitar Hero 5 - 2009.

5 main-series games in 5 years, not 4.

Hafkie: Sorry, but that's not right.

Guitar Hero came out in November of 2005. Assuming Guitar Hero 5 comes out in November of 2009, that's a span of 4 years.

And if you don't believe me, here you go: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=11&d1=1&y1=2005&m2=11&d2=1&y2=2009

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They did. They came with a lot of their own ideas (Music Studio, Battle, five-button drums, double-bass pedal drum tracking, open-strum bass tracking) and people shit on all of them.

I can't really blame Neversoft if they gave up and went in Rock Band's direction, because people made it clear that that's what they want. Originality be damned.

@False

Thank you. It's glad to know I'm not the only person who isn't:

A) chronically retarded
or
B) blinded by fanboy rage

Rock Band fans are bitching about GH "stealing" RB's ideas, but as soon as HMX announces that they're adding double kick pedals and open bass strums, you know for damn sure that those same RB fanboys are going to start slapping each others' asses and proclaiming some sort of "victory" over GH in a terrible, sweaty fanboy orgy.

Both games stole concepts from Guitar Freaks and DrumMania (or Drumscape if you want to split hairs) all of which were arcade titles that hit consoles before the age of gamers being willing so shell out major bucks for a deluge of fake plastic instruments.
As for the music studio I would like to see them figure out a way to incorporate vocals, if not with actual sound recording, then with a vocal track that can be dictated by a keyboard to ape that mechanic with lyrics to be entered via text. It could work, but it would be as tedious as any other track created with those tools. The best ones I have downloaded were clearly done on MIDI sequencers. It shows through in the overall quality of the songs.

Just get a regular old CRT tv for when you want to use the Drums... No lag then.

To create the vocal tracks, we need to be able to write to the hard drive in real-time. Developers would need to get around inherent latencies in the operating systems of the consoles; they might need to perform requests, have deeper access to the operating system than is granted for just 'live-saving' a game. So let's say they get around that, fine. A 4-minute recording at CD quality (44.1 kHz, 16 bit) takes 40 megabytes. Now, if the 360 and ps3 can allow mp3 compression on-the-fly (I've never heard of this-- compression tends to be processor-intensive, but who knows?) it would only require about 4 megabytes for the same time period and sound better than a 22 kHz non-compressed sample, which would *only* require 20 megabytes, but sound like AM radio. It's easier to record without compression, but takes a huge amount of space. I would like to see them approach this, by creating a Sampler application. That is, maybe we can't get 4 minutes of audio, but let us have 10 samples, of 1-2 seconds each, like a drum machine. You could sample in real-time, not using too much hard drive real estate, then you could opt to compress, before using it as an instrument or voice in your MIDI creation. This would be a step in the direction towards live recording that we could benefit from-- imagine sampling drums, horns, loops, etc. from your favorite sources-- just like any sampler would, at CD quality. Still though, the point is, it takes a lot of hard drive space and I'm not sure the operating systems as they're currently configured would allow such access; not to mention you would need to implement a solution to de-frag the hard drive, though I think both systems already do this on the fly, while downloading (which is part of why downloads are so much longer on a console than on your PC). Any techs know any more about this? Would love to know what's possible, it would be so cool to produce music on the console, then upload it, etc., copyright cr*p be d*mnd...

@Beloved Console:

You are awesome. If there was a way to follow you, I would.

That said, I would gladly sacrifice quality to some extent to make this happen, even on a limited scale. I'm as interested -- thought clearly much less technically inclined -- as you are to find a way to make this work. I'm convinced it's possible.