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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:03AM DeepFriedSushi said

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anyone know how large this thing is.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:06AM Mr Slayer said

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The game can take up to 7 gigs.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:12AM DeepFriedSushi said

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really? orange box is is 7 gigs and it has portal and half life 2 on it.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:13AM Mr Slayer said

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It's probably from all the maps, updates, and other crap making the game take up that much space.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:27AM DigTheDoug said

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It depends antirely if you have any other Source games already installed. It's can be 7 gigs, but it can also be smaller if you already have HL2 or Portal etc because the Source files are already present.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:31AM (Unverified) said

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TF2 is 7.3GB
All of HL2 is 16GB n Portal is 4.5GB.
The 7GB for Orange Box will more than likely be the original install size. TF2 has added quite a bit ( and some of my size is probably form about 10 or so custom maps)
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:08AM jynxycat said

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Jarate!
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Posted: May 21st 2009 1:01AM HighFiveJesus said

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I have been shown who is the boss!
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:13AM Gate Stormer said

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I can't wait to throw some Jarate on some spy that is cloaking as he is running away.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:26AM (Unverified) said

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Sniper, I shall avenge ye, for I am the holy diver of the interwebz.!!

First the spy...then it's /b/'s turn...
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:51AM JXCGunrunna said

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im with you on that one. Just let me get my R700 with stopping power and deep impact
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:42AM ch3burashka said

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A 2 for 1 update! Awesome...
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:49AM SecretAgentHam said

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my prayers are answered! i was hoping this would happen. now i just hope there is a steam sale on this game this weekend or the orange box again... i would purchase in a heart beat.

pre-loading now!
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:52AM ChiTownRuler23 said

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quick question, Why doesn't valve release these updates on the 360 version i mean it cant be that hard.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 12:58AM MachDelta said

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It's not Valve's fault. Blame Microsoft's absurdly long certification process.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 1:04AM Premature ejaculation man said

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There's a whole bunch of reasons thats due to Microsoft's policies on content, pricing and distribution times.

So when Vavle can instantly publish new content on their Steam service quickly, having to jump through a bunch of hoops and possibly have to pay Microsoft to host the content for free for their customers probably doesn't sound too enticing to them. The install base on the 360 is probably shrinking as well.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 1:14AM jefwif said

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plus imagine how much easier it will be to just release an update once all the classes have been fitted with their respective new weapons rather than each one going through the whole certification process.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:00AM einhanderkiller said

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Somebody always asks this question in TF2-related stories.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:09AM Mitsuo said

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I believe a reason why valve is basically holding off on the updates now is they want all the classes to be updated in one nice big package for little money. I originaly thought they might just release it for the 360 when half the classes have updates but now that the engineer is the only one left they may just wait till that's done then go for the 360.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:09AM ChiTownRuler23 said

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*sigh* my copy of the orange box is gonna be collecting dust as soon as im done with the half life series
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:49AM (Unverified) said

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Engineer, Demoman, Soldier are left to update. Not just Engineer.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:53AM Premaximum said

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@Mitsuo
The Soldier also has not had an update.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 5:37AM (Unverified) said

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Apart from MS's faffing about with not wanting all this updates for Free, there is also the issue with the 360 having 512mb of shared memory. The PC version has 512mb of RAM as minimum not counting Video RAM too.

Kinda odd in an age where RAM is such a boost to PC performance and stupidly cheap to upgrade both consoles have powerful processors that get bottlenecked at how much RAM is available. At the time of production 1GB was only about £30 and that could of had a huge boost to games.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 5:55AM Slaziman said

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deanb, that's not an issue, consoles don't need to run a bloated OS, an anti-virus, and other background apps. Besides, games are optimized specially for consoles, you can't just compare the PC system reqs with console hardware.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 6:36AM (Unverified) said

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Yes, but in this case the problem really is memory, Valve has said so a frew weeks back when asked about the updates for the Xbox360.

What they said was that the original game was already a tight fit on the 512 Megs and to add all this new stuff they were working on general optimizations to the entire game as to be able to have the game work with all this new content.

And that "bloated" OS and antivirus and whatnot don't take up THAT much memory.
Nowadays a med-low end computer should have at least 1Gb RAM, those extra 512 aren't all taken up by background apps. (Those get paged out to virtual memory on the hard drive while gaming btw.) And there's also the fact someone already stated that computers usually have dedicated video mamery while xbox360's 512 must do it all.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 1:03AM MilitantRabbit said

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Gentlemen.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 1:18AM Anticrawl said

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Posted: May 21st 2009 5:53AM michaspi said

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Next-genTLEMEN.
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 3:15PM (Unverified) said

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Oh Hi Michas
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Posted: May 21st 2009 1:09AM Rufuscrim said

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This article failed to mention that the final sniper update weapon is essentially the sniper's PEE in a JAR.

This. Is. Brilliant.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 1:15AM HighFiveJesus said

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and how its effects are washed off when you go into the water.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:09AM Anticrawl said

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I dunno, that sniper was up there for days drinking nothing but coffee. I'm pretty sure that piss would be vile and not something you can just "wash off."
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Posted: May 21st 2009 1:44AM Haon said

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Sweet. More fodder for my spy. Thanks valve.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:18AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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I'm gonna guess that TF2 will be discounted for the weekend, as well. They usually do that with the free weekends/days.

Of course, if you wanted TF2, you should've gotten the Orange Box deal a couple weeks ago (all OB games for $10, wasn't it?). Oh, well. Even at $20 (its current standard price), it's a great value.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:21AM SecretAgentHam said

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i die a little inside everytime someone mentions that sale. i cant believe i missed out on it.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:22AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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You also die a little on the outside, too--[stabs you in the back]

Gentlemen.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:41AM (Unverified) said

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Wow, that's a first. Whenever you see a 'Meet the [Class]' vid, it's ALWAYS the red schooling the blues. This is one of those rare times where Blue gets their comeuppance.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 2:41AM (Unverified) said

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Er, I mean revenge. Not comeuppance.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 3:37AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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Uh, not really. RED Spy first killed BLU Sniper and Medic. Then BLU Soldier killed BLU Spy. Finally RED Spy killed BLU Heavy and Soldier.

And BLU Scout was probably killed off-screen.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 3:55AM False said

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Actually, the Red DID school the Blues. The Blue Spy got his brains blown out by his own Soldier and the Red Spy ran off with the Blue Scout's mom. Sounds like Red won to me.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 3:32AM d889 said

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i am probably the only person who wishes tf2 was what we saw back in 1999-2000, before they changed it to this weird ass comic book style game.

sigh i miss the good old days of tfc
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Posted: May 21st 2009 3:41AM (Unverified) said

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You're not the only one. I don't mind the cartoon style, as it's very refreshing for an FPS. But I do think they stuck too close to Team Fortress Classic, which itself was a remake of the original Team Fortress. I was hoping TF2 would be a totally different game, not more of what I had already played.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 4:08AM (Unverified) said

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Pfft... TFC was just a poor man's QuakeWorld Team Fortress. A pale, skill-less, imitation of the original.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 7:30AM PoisonedAl said

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This is going to be a NIGHTMARE. The update isn't even out yet, but there is already hoards of worthless spies shitting the servers up.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 7:50AM (Unverified) said

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You have played TF2 pre- and post-class updates before haven't you?
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Posted: May 21st 2009 8:47AM Negatron said

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Posted: May 21st 2009 11:15AM (Unverified) said

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Just preloaded the game, I have it here on 'MyGames' and I see no way to play it for free. What the hell Valve?
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Posted: May 21st 2009 3:02PM dvandam said

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I can't play it either. Apparently, even though it's Thursday, the free weekend still hasn't started... some have cited "Valve Time" as the reasoning behind it. Some may find that an amusing aside, but I just view it as vague, annoying, and potentially dishonest..
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Posted: May 21st 2009 4:37PM Ostentaneous said

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I just wanna say that the timeframes mentioned in this article confused me. You can't post something at 11:59pm and talk about it starting tomorrow.
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Posted: May 21st 2009 8:35PM d889 said

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meh i bought half-life in 1998 and have been with the entire series since its beginning, but i guess i just miss the nostalgia... oh well its just like how the beta days of counter-strike was so much fun before steam.
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