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Posted: May 23rd 2009 9:30PM Roto13 said

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Mentioned by a Dutch person.
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 9:35PM sjenky said

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Damn, true, that makes it even worse..
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Posted: May 24th 2009 6:12AM derdaim said

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dutch is a german dialect...
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Posted: Jun 1st 2009 1:48PM (Unverified) said

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dude, you don't have a language, you have a dialect

warmen foodken

Kalden Dranken

that's an accent...(I just tried google translate, and I didn't find "foodken" as a word, but I swear I saw that somewhere...)
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 9:19PM Slaziman said

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That's funny, a few centuries ago the Dutch HATED pirates...

Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:25PM MrKlorox said

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They also hated personal freedoms. Remember that one Dutch invention, the transatlantic slave trade?
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 9:32PM Roto13 said

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The only people I knew in high school who didn't pirate anything were the ones without internet connections. And even they had their friends pirate stuff for them.

Posted: May 23rd 2009 9:44PM I AM IRONHIDE said

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My high school is exactly the same way.
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:47PM Sly C said

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^agreed with autobot
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Posted: May 24th 2009 8:37PM Ashitaka said

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I think that among teens all over the world (at least in developed countries) it's normal to download pretty much anything we want.

I mean yeah, we all know it's illegal, but the hell with it. We are never gonna get caught, so maybe that's why we do it.

All my friends (and I really mean all of them) have downloaded games/music/films/tv shows illegally at some point and most of them do it on a regular basis (myself included, I dare to say... [but games I have only downloaded 2 or 3]).

It'd be interesting and I'd like to see a similar survey conducted here in Portugal. The results would be above 90% for sure.
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 9:36PM LaughingTarget said

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Pugnacious Pepsi pirates purloin property.

Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:15PM The Wicker Man said

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lolz, lolz, and roflz- good alliterative sir.
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:23PM (Unverified) said

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Peoplez cmon! Netherlands aint only about hash weed and hoes! I actually when visited it went to a fishing museum in Groningen, and it was really interesting, I mean really!

And my original intent was to attend a progressive rock music festival, and I went. Mind blowing!

Other intention of mine was to actually prove to myself that Holland had no hills whatsoever and that it was all plain. Men, I wasn't mistaken.

Well...I admit I failed and sined as well. Yes, yes. I went and entered in the coffee shops.

But, but, all I wanted to do was drink coffee!!! But the dark side turned on me....damn you REVAN!!!

Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:27PM MrKlorox said

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What makes it a sin or dark?
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:30PM (Unverified) said

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The fact is, in my opinion it ain't. I was just trying to be funny and not eventually start a flame war of opinions about if is it right or wrong.

"sigh" gotta start me some growth around here, so I wont go this summer again to netherlands though... :P
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:55PM R Planteer said

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Double post:
@slycooper:
No they dont, your best bet for naruto is fansubs or, Hulu if your in america.

Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:58PM Sly C said

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they have it on hulu? i did not know that.
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 10:58PM R Planteer said

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bah, ghost this and the above please.
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Posted: May 23rd 2009 11:00PM R Planteer said

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Wow, reply system sucks when your internet is having issues.

Yes, its on Hulu. It was being broadcasted with a 1 week delay, but I think its same day now.
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Posted: May 24th 2009 12:31AM (Unverified) said

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The practise of downloading copyrighted material is widely accepted amongst all age groups here in the Netherlands. Although I buy a lot more than I used to as a teenager, I continue to download from newsgroups and peer to peer. So does everybody else I know.

Posted: May 24th 2009 4:08AM (Unverified) said

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Its actually LEGAL to download in Holland. However, when its software f.e. Creative Suite, you must contain the software as purchased.

Music and movies, are legal to download. The uploading is punished in Holland. There have been two or three cases that actually made the court and resulted in a fine (which wasn't that high).

Yes, I live there. Internet is overall faster and we are one of the countries with most active internet connections. A average speed to the dutch is 20mbit/2MB without any bandwith cap.

-Ed

Posted: May 24th 2009 4:47AM Bowser Rogozhin said

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Well, with their culture being usurped by Islamic militants and ever increasing sea levels about to overtake their low lying land, the Dutch need something to take their minds off impending doom. Some sort of release. It's either that or hooliganism, but Feyenoord supporters are suddenly hard to find.

Posted: May 24th 2009 2:01PM JoshMilewski said

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Yeah, that Islam bullshit is the only thing bad I can find about the country.
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Posted: May 24th 2009 7:11AM (Unverified) said

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Americans are fat, bwah!

Posted: May 24th 2009 9:32AM (Unverified) said

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And rich, don't forget that

Well...compared to the rest of the world we are :(
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Posted: May 24th 2009 8:00AM (Unverified) said

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Piracy has always been more rampant in Europe, it's been like that in the 80s and seems to only have grown since.

What worries me is the amount of people that exclusively get their media (music, movies, videogames) by ways of piracy. For some entertainment is seen as a commodity that is freely available and not worth any payment.

I have no problem with sharing, but do buy some DVDs, CDs and games every now and then, you are diluting entertainment if you do not.

Posted: May 24th 2009 12:09PM (Unverified) said

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Don't forget to mention that the EU market is larger than the North America market (yes, including Canada and Mexico). People in the EU on average spend more money on entertainment that the people in NA.

Also... this survey is just a case of lies, damned lies and statistics. If you get the question "Have you ever downloaded something illegally?" then most people will/should answer "yes". A subsequent question "After downloading, did you buy the product, or did you discard the content because you didn't like, or you kept it?" would be much more interesting. In a recent Dutch study on the same subject it was shown that people who download the most also spend the most money on buying/licensing the entertainment products. EenVandaag is a piece of shit "current events" show, which does very poor research.

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/29/0810250
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Posted: May 24th 2009 9:09AM (Unverified) said

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lol why perform a survey? No doubt that at least 90% of the world downloads illegally.

In Turkey absolutely all young people download illegally, I'm pretty confident a survey would yield 100%

Posted: May 24th 2009 9:31AM amnesia said

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Can someone help me with this stupid issue?! Everytime I go into a topic it automatically posts this post that I posted months ago.

Oh just in case tehre aren't enough posts in my sentence. Post.

Posted: May 24th 2009 10:05AM Anoniempje said

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There are of course many flaws in this type of survey. First off, respondents were recruited through online forums and even highly tech oriented communities such as Tweakers. Among these tech savvy and active Internet users the percentage of P2P-users is undoubtedly higher than average. Secondly, the survey was promoted as a “download” survey, this will of course attract the attention of those who actually download more than those who don’t.

Polls and surveys can be very misleading, especially when they are ill constructed. What we can conclude from the Dutch survey, although carefully, is that The Netherlands has quite a few active BitTorrent users and that they are confident that Mininova will beat BREIN in court. Let’s hope that a similar survey among lawyers would reach a similar conclusion.

Posted: May 24th 2009 10:07AM (Unverified) said

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I buy the song from iTunes, then download a free MP3 version of it for playability on my non-iPod media player.

Also, if I'm not able to buy the media, then I download it. I can't get Jump! Stars in the US, and they don't sell Final Fantasy VII anymore, so nobody really loses anything and I get more games.

Posted: May 24th 2009 12:12PM juggalotusmx said

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93 percent of Dutch youngsters download illegally and only 4 percent read play or listen all they media downloaded. (im interested about that too, is like some ppl hack site and stuff just for the challenge)

Posted: May 24th 2009 12:20PM (Unverified) said

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This just in: Dutch youngsters more honest than youngsters from any other nation.

Posted: May 24th 2009 1:20PM GenGrievous said

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Like someone else mentioned. Downloading software (includes Games) is illegal in the Netherlands. Movies and Music are not.

Posted: May 24th 2009 1:58PM JoshMilewski said

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The Netherlands seems like one of the best places to live in the world, with more freedom than anywhere else.

Can anyone who lives there tell me anything bad about the country?

This is a serious question.

Posted: May 25th 2009 2:40PM (Unverified) said

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The rise of islam has its bad side. The police isnt there for you when you need them, bunch of scared losers. Fuel for your car is one of the highests in the world! Actually all taxes on cars are crazy high. It is hard to find a house in Amsterdam (for students on a nice location :P)
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Posted: May 25th 2009 1:33PM JoshMilewski said

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"The rise of islam has its bad side. The police isnt there for you when you need them, bunch of scared losers."

Are these two separate statements? Commenting on each of them separately:

1) Islam: It seems this is a bigger problem in Europe than I initially thought. Well, to say it exactly, it seems Europeans are a bunch of xenophobic fools who are unwilling to accept Islam into their societies (even though 'freedom of religion' is a fundamental part of Western values).

2) The police are a bunch of cowards...really? In what way?
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Posted: May 24th 2009 6:27PM (Unverified) said

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Piracy. The choice of a younger generation

Posted: May 25th 2009 1:11AM (Unverified) said

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Hey Kid! I'm a computer!

Posted: May 25th 2009 5:35AM iNZoW said

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Well personally, i purchased all of my video games. However, here in Kuwait it's really hard to get the music i like to listen to or TV shows.

If i had an option i wouldn't pirate. And the only reason i could buy the video games is that retailers here import them, bit overpriced though.

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