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Posted: May 26th 2009 11:40PM Xaeinovis said

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I love this man.
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Posted: May 26th 2009 11:56PM DarkSan00 said

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I know this man
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Posted: May 26th 2009 11:43PM Rankore said

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This man is a genius and one hell of a filmmaker! yes please make a game! I will buy it right now!
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Posted: May 27th 2009 10:25AM Saria the Cat said

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If he made a game and it was half as good as Pan's Labyrinth the movie was, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Anything associated with the Del Toro name is an instant feast for my senses.

Oh yeah, and Mexicans FTW!
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Posted: May 26th 2009 11:48PM Michelobius said

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Posted: May 27th 2009 2:39AM (Unverified) said

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What will make a game great will be what separates games from other forms of media, it wont be reading a text box, it will be the game play and the experience. Braid was reading a boring book with interesting game play in between.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 3:34AM Michelobius said

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Right, which is why Braid wasn't it. He has bigger and better things in his future. The story being so separated from the gameplay was Braid's biggest flaw, except for in the ending, but oh, what an ending.

He showed enough flashes of inspiration in Braid that I can count on him to produce even better stuff in the future.
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Posted: May 26th 2009 11:50PM velazkid said

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wHAT IS CITIZEN kANE?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:11AM ch3burashka said

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Get your caps fixed.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:13AM einhanderkiller said

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WHAT IS CITIZEN KANE?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:19AM The Blank Mage Returns said

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Nothing important, dude burns his sled and feels bad about it.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:19AM Funkmaster General said

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So many things about your question depress me.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:27AM (Unverified) said

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The most important film in all of film history. Highly regarded as the best movie of all time.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:33AM Pureshooter said

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....Rosebud....
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Posted: May 27th 2009 4:15PM juggalotusmx said

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the best movie of all time? that's highly debatable, what about the 7th Seal or even modern stuff like shawshank redemption, oh and let's not forget titanic won all the academy awards (that last one was pure sarcasm)
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Posted: May 26th 2009 11:51PM (Unverified) said

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Well... I do believe in del Toro's work. If anything, maybe HE can do pull of a high-caliber game narrative.
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Posted: May 26th 2009 11:58PM TheyDidItFirst said

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I love classic movies, but I hated Citizen Kane. Still, I can see why it is an important film.

I don't think gaming will ever have an equivalent to it though. Citizen Kane is remarkable because it tells such an encompassing story that is applicable to nearly everyone, everywhere. The technology of videogames, however, makes the idea of a game that can be played in 70 years and enjoyed just as much as upon its release bogus. Despite advancements in filming technique and color (obviously), a movie made in the 1930s looks just as good as a modern movie - this means that movies will always be judged based on the quality of storytelling, characterization, cinimatography, and other aspects rather than visual quality. This is not true for videogames - until games become utterly visually realistic they will always be judged at least partly by their graphics. A game made in 10 years that may seem to have the same effect on the industry as Citizen Kane had on Hollywood will likely be reduced to a footnote in 20. It may still be played by those who love a "retro" experience, just as many old games are played now, but I imagine it will be lost in the storm of exciting, new games.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:22AM Michelobius said

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I don't know about this. Starcraft and Half-Life are still played by many and are masterpieces from 10 years ago, even though we've gone further in the last 10 years than we will in the next ten.

It's easy to get caught up in the new releases of any industry, and it's true that it's more likely for games, but classics still endure. I think you're vastly understating the influence of older games.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:34AM rowd149 said

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I say we've already seen what should have been it: Shadow of the Colossus. And I predict those graphics will hold up in 20 years time.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 1:55AM (Unverified) said

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I would venture to say that Shadow of the Colossus surpasses Citizen Kane
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Posted: May 27th 2009 2:05AM (Unverified) said

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I would venture to say that Shadow of the Colossus surpasses Citizen Kane
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Posted: May 27th 2009 5:33PM (Unverified) said

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I believe there are those few games that have come out that are the gaming industries great classics, Think of how many people still play mario, and how many games it has inspired, in 10 years people will still be playing super mario bros and enjoying the experience. Games are different than movies and books, its not about the visuals, or writing, its about how everything comes together to form the experience.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 7:08AM Snowblind said

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The Team ICO games are very artsy, but I wouldn't call them the Citizen Kane of gaming, and I doubt their new project will be either.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 10:30AM TheDarkWayne said

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I have no idea what you're talking about, if you're saying a movie from 1930s really has the same picture quality as a modern HD film you're crazy.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:43PM (Unverified) said

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DarkWayne, HD resolution PALES in comparison to film resolution. It looks damn fine, yes, but well shot film stock-no matter how old-will always have more detail.

Have you tried watching an older film on BluRay? The level of detail increase from DVD to BluRay is incredible, and the same is true from HD to film (ie, my Star Trek 2 Blu Ray looks great, but when I saw a pristine film print recently it looked even better)..
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Posted: May 27th 2009 3:18PM raygungirl said

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SuckItTrebek, you must not have a very nice HD screen. Unless I'm seeing a movie on a digital projector, the film version is always a disappointment. I frequently find myself thinking, "I can't wait to see this on BluRay," while I'm sitting in the theatre. Kind of a shame, really. I miss when the theatre was the end-all be-all of movie-watching.

I think the biggest difference is just screen size. Of course you'll "see more detail" when the screen is 80 feet wide, as opposed to 60" diagonal (if you're lucky), no matter what.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 7:42PM (Unverified) said

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Jess, I don't mean this as a slight (simply a sad fact) but you're probably watching movies that are being run in a suburban bajillion screen multiplex where the "projectionist" is a bored 16 year old kid who is barely trained on the basics of how to do the job-if at all. Find a theatre run by film nuts, who know and care about proper presentation and care for their product. HD resolution is WAY below 35mm film stock, and even the supernice 4K projectors are incredible but don't offer what film does (hence, for instance, why IMAX is shot on FILM and not digitally). If HD were across the board superior, no one would be using film, but it's still the dominant medium in Hollywood. The James Bond movies recently got a 4k scan-which is far beyond the definition offered by HD-for future posterity. A 4k digital scan and it's STILL not the level of detail of the original film stock, not that most users would notice, but that's the kind of scope needed to make a quality presentation even in a lower grade format.

Movies can actually lose even MORE detail and look worse on BluRay due to digital grain reduction. I love a pristine image, but in the quest for crystal clarity studios are simply scrubbing away minor detail, making an image look unnaturally sterile.

I'd suggest checking out www.thedigitalbits.com and learning more about all aspects of the digital video revolution!
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:04AM (Unverified) said

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Grand Theft Rosebud.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:08AM (Unverified) said

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That's right and it's going to be made by ME!!
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:51AM AsherR said

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Is your mom telling you that you'll never get anywhere with these games?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:09AM Sly C said

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posts about this man make me happy. he actually sees the potential in video games instead of just knocking them.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:09AM Sly C said

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and pan's labyrinth was great.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 2:04AM Rankore said

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Dude did you get infamous?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 2:18AM Sly C said

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nope, not today. i couldn't because i had to go somewhere. i'm getting it tomorrow. i did download the special powers from the gamestop preorder today though. haha. have you?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:12AM ch3burashka said

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THIS JUST IN!!! UNJUSTIFIED STATEMENT MAKES FRONT PAGE NEWS!
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Posted: May 27th 2009 7:54AM (Unverified) said

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This is joystiq... every blog post is front page news because that's how the site is set up...
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Posted: May 27th 2009 11:27AM Ricky Bango said

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In what way is Del Toro's prediction "unjustified?" I don't think you know what that word means.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:12AM SheppyReturns said

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Anyone who wants gamings Citizen Kane is a prick. The movie was largely hated by filmgoers and critics alike, it literally destroyed two men, and very nearly detroyed RKO studios.

Fact of the matter is Citizen Kane wasn't even recognized as a great film until decades later. So what we, as moronic little children hoping to legitimize a medium that's been legitimized time and time again, is to destroy so many people and jobs and studios for the sake of a game we'd all fucking hate for 20 years. I feel sorry for the poor bastard who actually DOES create gamings Citizen Kane.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:20AM The Blank Mage Returns said

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Sled burning quicktime events. Sign me up.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:23AM Funkmaster General said

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You looked way too much into his statement. I'm sure that he only meant that there will be a game that is as highly regarded as the film, which is indeed highly regarded, whatever the opinion of it was at the time. Many, many things are not appreciated until way after their time, and I'm sure that there are at least a few things that you like that fall into that category. Really, that has nothing to do with it. He wants a highly regarded game that matches a highly regarded film. That's all.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:24AM Funkmaster General said

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and also, you're a jackass for calling me a prick.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 2:19AM Sly C said

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it's sheppy, you'll get used to it. :P
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:53AM Duke said

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Sheppy, I think you went a little too deep into the analogy with that analysis. Nobody wants to get people fired or ruined, he was just talking about an iconic game that would change things.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 4:25PM Blaquebeird said

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There you are! I was getting worried no one was left who would read way too much into everything and get offended for no reason, but you always deliver, Sheppy.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:15AM (Unverified) said

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Citizen Kane & Lynch
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:17AM Giroro said

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Citizen Kane was a terrible movie. It was tortuous to watch.

Citizen Kane of Gaming = Imagenz:babiez?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:22AM kfreed12 said

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This fucker needs to make some games... he's like the greatest director of all time and I think he'd be great at it. Pan's Labyrinth visuals on a game? Hell yeah.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 12:47AM Giroro said

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"he's like the greatest director of all time" no. Just no.

The person you are thinking of is Stanley Kubrick.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 1:40AM (Unverified) said

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"Eyes Wide Shut" begs to differ...
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:41AM The Blank Mage Returns said

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Peter Jackson? Tim Burton? J.J. Abrams? They all get my personal vote. Del Toro has yet to move past "artsy weird" status.
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