IGN analyzes the GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony announcement

I lol at gays.

Yup it's gonna be Controversial.

if it's far enough along for an official announcement im pretty sure it's been approved

In all fairness, gamer profiles are not the place to be discussing sexual views. I'm fairly sure Nintendo or Sony wouldn't allow it either.

Give it time maybe near release day and the tittle will be changed, But it's a Video Game so i Doubt it.

Yeah ...no "Gay" on XBL, definitely smell trouble here.

Anyone want to explain why I was voted down, or was it just because I gave a logical explanation of what happened, rather than mindlessly bashing Microsoft?

Like my other comments show, I'm very much in favour of homosexuals expressing themselves.. but there's no way you can argue that a gamer profile is the place to do so.

Okay, argue why a gamer profile ISN'T the place for it.

It's a GAMING profile, it shouldn't be being used as a blog for sexual views of any kind.

Apparently you cant use "gay" on your gamer tag but its perfectly fine to use drug lingo like "chronic" or "toker"

Why is that ok?

Or Lesbian for that matter

Because Fox News hates the real world, but has no problems with drug addicts. Or, in short, because Republicans still have this mistaken belief that their views matter.

Yeah, all the Republicans got the gay word banned on Live. What kind of parallel dipshit Universe do you live in? Is it almost E3 there, too?

Why do you guys have a problem with Tony being gay? Do you want him to be melancholic or possibly disconsolate? Shame on all of you.

The new name will be GTA IV: The Ballad of Hot Man on Man Sex Lovin' Tony

Naw,

NEEDS MOAR RAINING MEN

i wanna see DLC were we go back to San Andreas:) Best GTA ever!!

How bout they just redo San Andreas? I don't think they fleshed it out as much as they could have. By the sounds of it, come to think of it, this DLC is pretty much eliminating a possibility of a Vice City remake. THANK GOD.

+10000 for black donellys

GTA IV sucks because it's exactly like real life, especially when all of the missions are over you have absolutely nothing fun left to do, as opposed to the previous GTA games where it had an arcadey style to it. I play video games to escape a bit of reality here and there. Same thing with Far Cry 2, like wow. It sucks when you're getting shot at and when your health is low you think you're administering a health pack but you're actually removing bullets from your body and then it's game over. Also, don't get me started on malaria and how far you have to travel to get to your destinations. I could go on and on but I'll save that for a different discussion :D

Aren't you the one who said that the acts of homosexuality are tasteless to begin with?

It's called The Ballad of Gay Tony because that's the characters name

@ArchiGamer

exactly... Chuck is a hypocrite. "we keep letting it drag on because of stuff like this." ... no it's because of people like you.

@ChuckJ

Shut The Fuck Up.

God forbid someone have a personal view on something. Yes, PERSONALLY, I believe the UNNATURAL acts of gays is distasteful. I dont hate people who are gay not do I care if they spend there lives together. You dont have to like MY personal view of certain unnatural acts. What they do in the privacy of their own home, i dont care about, but I still view it as unnatural. Ive told a couple friends I had that were gay how I view what they do. Im not going to lie about my view nor not be friends with someone jsut because they are gay. Well take that back, I dont think I could get along with someone who is flamboyant about it, thats just annoying.

I disagree with forcing controversy over race or gays which is all this is seemingly trying to do. Could you imagine a game called The Ballad of Straight Tony? They didnt put it in there because it's his name, they did it to stoke more interest.

Wow, you people sure get offended easily. Politically correct crowd. You guys crack me up.

Do you really think all gay people are "flamboyant"?

And you are wrong again Chuck, the character's name IS Gay Tony, they aren't choosing it for mere controversy.

What exactly is unnatural? If I'm correct, I'm part of nature, as everyone else, so unnatural is but a weak word, if not utterly incorrect. It's not that your views are hurtful, for lack of a better word, but wrong and ignorant.

Archi,

No, I know they arent all flamboyant. Like I said, two friends of mine, are gay. They are far from flamboyant and you cant really tell they are gay just by talking and hanging out with them.

Their acts, which will go unnamed, are not natural. I could get into the who why we have sexual organs as humans in the first place. Ill just say, the sole purpose is for creation of life. That's the main purpose. Ill go no further.

I dont hate gays, im not a bigot. I just view things differently I guess. I dont have a problem with people being gay, it's their life and that doesnt harm anyone. Its when its forced upon others and that forcing never ends. Some people just want to shove it in everyones face. It's like enough already.

If Gay Tony is just his name, then fine. But this is Rockstar. I find it hard to believe they would call it that, and have the guy not be gay. Which isnt an issue, its using the 'gay' to stoke controversy which I see as a tired out issue.

Without trying to turn this into a political debate..

How is it "unnatural". I'm not gay myself, but people who are, don't just choose to be, it's how they are. The only reason it's percieved as wrong, is because of the way we're brought up and our culture. And what about the fact even animals can be homosexual? Perhaps it's your views that are unnatural.

More on topic, I find it amazing that you're complaining about something you clearly know nothing about. The Mafia, and similar organisations always use names like this.. Remember the Family Guy episode about "Big Fat Paulie"? are you going to try and argue that he wouldn't have been called "Thin Paulie"?

You're also ignoring the fact "Gay Tony" was in the original GTAIV, and it was fairly obvious they were setting up Luis, his bodyguard, as the next playable character. Obviously they're using this in the name to get attention, but you're reaction only proves that it works - you're giving them exactly the kind of attention they want.

Don't feed the troll guys. When a comment goes from GTA DLC to Obama's Supreme Court pick, you know you're dealing with some 1st class crazy.

hey the supreme court pick is my allergists sister. Completely off topic but makes me feel cool

The main goal of animals is to produce an offspring for the sole purpose of continuation of said existence and in some mammals, establish a chain of offspring that bare the donor's blood. The mere idea that we reproduce to create life alone is misleading. Furthermore, most animals then to be asexual, specifically insects and the like, they don't need to have sexual organs as mammals do. And there may even be examples of animals that share homosexual acts, an example would be monkeys from Asia that show dominance in males, I wont go further in detail.

Life, the act of creating, is the reaction, to some extent, of reproduction not the purpose.

But back on topic, the character in GTAIV, his name is Gay Tony, so the title is justifiable in that regard.

So Chuck, the way we as a society should move past this issue is by pretending it doesn't exist?

The presumption that our bodies and their components are "for" something implies a belief that they were specially designed for some kind of higher calling - in this case the "creation of life" - and it is a dereliction of DUTY to not use them that way. This is metaphysical blubbering - our sexual organs evolved around performing their core functionality, but this does not imbue them with an "intended purpose". That assumes an intelligent artificer operating at a higher level than evolution and natural selection, and that my friend is stupid creationist talk. Which would explain a lot about an objection to teh gayz and their apparently unspeakable acts, but whatever.

The cavepersons that believe in the natural, intended purpose of things are usually blissfully unaware of all the homosexual activities that can occur amongst other animal species (whom we must now sadly inform are "unnatural", whatever that even means by that point) - this includes gay sex, gay adoption, gay life partners. All of this occurs among other animals. What are you going to even use as a reference for what is "natural" if not things in nature? Or are you now going to make an appeal to the natural state of animals before The Fall? If so this can only get funnier.

How the hell did this turn into a Gay Lecture.

This specific thread deserved it because ChuckJ is clearly nutshit crazy, and basically whinging about "reverse discrimination".
Also because I own a PS3 and can't get any GTA DLC. :(

When you saw Luis the second time at the ship yard in front of the platypus he was with Gay Tony.

Personally I love the shock factor in the name of this title. I laughed really hard when I saw it, Rockstar has balls, and its a slap in the face to Jack Thomson types.

Good point. Cant argue with you on that