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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:03PM (Unverified) said

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I though Factor 5 was gonzo!?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:10PM (Unverified) said

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..oh they are.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:26PM emperorzeroxx said

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hence why this is on ps3 and not 360 ;)
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:07PM Mr Khan said

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Factor 5 lives, you'll see some of their works come E3, i bet.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:07PM PR0F3TA said

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is this really a loss, i mean we are almost knee deep in MGS5 or MGSR whatever... the art looks good, but how would it play.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:17PM JoshMilewski said

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What... does Metal Gear have to do with this at all...

I just.. don't get it... what....
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:01PM Arrowned said

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Kojima planned Factor 5's demise all along, obviously, as part of his campaign to f' with our heads.

MAYBE THAT THUMBS UP IN THE CLOUDS WAS ROHN ALL ALONG
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:09PM (Unverified) said

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why so much hate for Lair?
its was pretty damn good for a dragon riding game!!
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:30PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I thought so as well. I guess you have to actually play it to know that and it's far easier to just hate for the sake of hating. After all it was a Sony exclusive.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:39PM (Unverified) said

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It was a lot better after they put the dual analog patch in that's for sure.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 10:43PM (Unverified) said

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I enjoyed the game as well, with analog or without.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 6:25AM ptcamn said

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Completely agree that Lair was pretty good, and that the Sixaxis controls were great. I posted something about it a few days ago on another post. It's probably a good idea to use some of that here.

Lair was a great game that wasn't given enough credit. It is an excellent exclusive game that got blasted because it had a complex control system that required some learning as opposed to the single move motion games in Wii Sports at the time. Let's be honest: the controls respond very well. People just got pissed off that they actually had to take a few minutes to learn how to control the dragons instead of repeating the same moves over and over like in the Wii games of the time.

On second thought, Sony opponents have been negative about anything and everything that involves motion controls on any system not made by Nintendo.

Now that can be found for cheap everybody should try it. You won't be disappointed.

And for anyone else reading this that complains about not having enough exclusives on the PS3 we have had many great ones such as this one, Heavenly Sword, Valkyrie Chronicles, etc, that haven't sold well. If we don't support our exclusives, which are not crap but actually good games, of course we won't get more of them.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 9:59AM ComicShaman said

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Sorry, guys. I'm a monogamous PlayStation owner who is genetically predisposed towards dragon-riding games (I enjoyed both Drakengard games, and Drakan II: The Ancient's Gates is a game I love so much that I've played it half a dozen times). And I thought Lair was terrible. I couldn't force my way through it, not just because of the Sixaxis controls. I returned it after about 7 chapters.

It's not all "haters" and "x-bots." If Lair had been a genuinely good game, it would have had a lot more success. It's not a conspiracy. It was just a very flawed game.

That being said, if I still had it around I'd probably take it for a spin with the analog patch. But it's gone, it's not worth any more money for me, and there are many better game to play.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 9:58PM jhowlett said

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i'm not claiming the game was a master piece but it's alot better than it it gets credit for. i couldn't stand playing kotor or psychonauts but i don't say they are terrible. and i'm not claiming conspiracy but you do notice things like 'the ps3 version isn't on par with the pc version' being the only thing pickled out in articles.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:10PM (Unverified) said

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Reminds me of Metroid...This could have been an awesome game.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:16PM JoshMilewski said

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Yeah, I was going to say it looks sort of Retro Studios Metroid-esque.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:11PM jhowlett said

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i like lair (still want some dragon trophies) and this new idea sounds interesting.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:29PM PSORngr said

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I agree. I thought Lair was really good. I want Lair trophies in Home. :P

This game could have been really neat.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:21PM (Unverified) said

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What hath Greg Miller wrought?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:31PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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LOL@ Jebron LAMES!

Ha!

Take that!
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:44PM (Unverified) said

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I'm sure you lost sleep trying to think up something that clever
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:58PM (Unverified) said

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How about this?

Pretty soon, Lebron will have all the time in the world to think of a comeback.

...no? Anyone?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:46PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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It was actually the name of my fantasy hoops squad.

Anyway ... I guess when a one man team goes up against an actual team this usually happens. To be honest I thought the game 4 buzzer beater was going in for a second. Of course it would have been a travesty because of that phantom foul against Pietrus with .5 seconds left in regulation.

They should officially change the name to the Cleveland Lebron's. The series isn't officially "over" but it would take a monumental meltdown and Cleveland actually playing as a team to come back and win this one.

So, would you say Orlando is for real now?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 11:34PM MarkezJM said

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"LOL@ Jebron LAMES!" was the name of your fantasy squad!? That's hilarious!
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:25PM nadomars said

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a new game by a well known studio is never a bad thing, especially with all the flack they got from lair. what that means is that they will pretty much improve twice as much as any other game, and they will test the hell out of this game to make sure it's control scheme or anything else works.

anyway, I hear lair got patched and was a pretty good experience after that, especially considering copies can be had for 10 bucks
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:30PM aaronxx said

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the back of that suit looks very dead space.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:31PM (Unverified) said

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I thought the company folded....hmm

Obviously this game will be called

Black Hole (Lair in space except there mecha dragons)
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:32PM (Unverified) said

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Really, Factor 5? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:38PM (Unverified) said

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Shame on you again.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:38PM Pojomofo said

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Well Factor 5 was certainly working on something, its not like they were just sitting around their office crying about how Lair turned out.

I also think most people need to realize the title says "was" not "is"
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:42PM (Unverified) said

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I'm sure you lost sleep trying to think up something that clever
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:43PM (Unverified) said

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BOB SAGET
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:47PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Speaking of clever ... DUR
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Posted: May 27th 2009 8:46PM (Unverified) said

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So making PS3 exclusives killed Factor 5? DAMN YOU KUTARAGI!
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:09PM Mr Khan said

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Huh. According to the legend of Factor 5, this game was canceled a long time ago, when Factor 5 decided to shift away from Sony development, early 08, perhaps, after seeing where Lair went.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:48PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Where can I get this "legend of factor 5"?
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Posted: May 27th 2009 10:10PM Mr Khan said

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Hours and hours of trolling the forums. Mostly the VGChartz forums, it's pieced together from rumor and a few obscure reports.

Mayhap i should compose the legend in its entirety some day.
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:15PM (Unverified) said

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That character reminds me the "Earthworm Jim".
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Posted: May 27th 2009 9:45PM (Unverified) said

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That looks a hell of a lot like it might've been a next-gen Turrican game to me
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Posted: May 28th 2009 12:45AM (Unverified) said

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factor 5, didn't you already learn not to stick with the ps3? and did you not notice haze? now if you were still alive, i'd tell you go to go back to nintendo for another rogue squadron. or should've stopped eyeing exclusivity.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 10:01AM ComicShaman said

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Um... yes, Haze and Lair represent one end of the curve with regard to PS3 exclusives, but you are aware that there is another end, aren't you?
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Posted: May 28th 2009 10:03AM Mayor West said

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Third party games tank on the Wii. Any Wii game without the word "party" in the title is destined for failure.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 10:19AM Johnny Neat said

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It's sad what happened to Factor 5. Talent got undermined by being PS3 exclusive and allowing a wonky control scheme for Lair come out as it did. Fixing it didn't help as it was way too late. Someone should have or should just get it back together and try again. This looks interesting, wonder what it was.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 10:01AM Mayor West said

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I am the only gamer alive who doesn't like KNOTOR/Mass Effect type RPGs. The battle system and long winded text conversations boars me to tears.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 4:17PM (Unverified) said

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See, I would say the same. Only replace KOTOR/Mass Effect with "JRPG."

Seriously, those get boring, long-winded, and bloated at their worst. More so then most games.

BUT, I will admit, when they are on, they are fucking on.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 1:36PM (Unverified) said

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I bought Lair after hearing about how atrocious it was, and I have to say it's one of the best PS3 games I've played. Don't know where all the hate comes from. The motion controls were solid; after about ten minutes of play I had them down pretty well. I played through the game until I got all the platinum medals (13 I think). I never played with the dual analog sticks, but the motion controls were so great I don't see why they're necessary.

With that being said, I hope Factor 5 isn't completley dead. I would like to play some of their games in the future.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 4:18PM (Unverified) said

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You are the first person I've heard of buying a game specifically because you heard it was "atrocious."

I feel like I should make you a medal or a plaque or something. Check your mail.
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Posted: May 28th 2009 10:58AM Grizzlechips said

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Does no one else see the ENORMOUS Goatse in this image? What the hell was the concept artist thinking?
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Posted: May 28th 2009 12:08PM Grizzlechips said

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