Things you'll hear about at E3: Xbox 360 sells 30 million units to date, Xbox Live reaches 20 million

Well, what about them?!

Who is this guy and why is he vomiting all over this post?

You guys can talk all the crap you want about failures, but I would say that shows even more evidence towards people's love and loyalty towards their Xbox 360. Since launch I'm on my 3rd system (1 was warrantied), but you know what, I can't live without it and there are millions of people out there that have the same feeling. That's quite an accomplishment by Microsoft that they can create a system that people love so much, that multiple failures keeps people coming back.

And you "guys" can continue to blindly accept faulty merchandise, all the while claiming loyality as the reason.

In my eyes, that makes you a sheep.

But hey, if you want to continue to support Microsoft's deliberate sponging of the consumer, by all means, continue on. I am sure their PR department appreciates the inflated numbers due to repeat buys.

What I really love is when people rag all over the 360's RROD problems and then deny that the old-style PS2 ever had issues...
ha... ha... ha

The difference is the failure rate between the two.

Sony Fanboy here. Good job, MS.

I guess it's because Microsoft is cool about their return policy. When my 360 crapped out it was replaced with in 2 weeks. Had they asked ME to pay for repairs I would have chucked the thing at Bill Gates head and purchased a PS3.

I know I don't speak for all 360 owners, however I hung on to mine because of the enormous catalog of great games and the great online community.

Well, I'm pretty sure it's not "okay" with anybody. But, you buy into your team, and you support it through good and bad...or until it pisses you off enough to jump ship. Like I'm a Cavs fan, but those kids are pissing me off something serious! But, I'll still tell a Lakers fan that Kobe can eat a fat one.

Sorry. Playoffs.

How long has that policy been active? I could have sworn they wanted you to pay like 50 bucks for it back in early 07. I could be wrong. I see your point though. If you already spent the money on a 360 and are able to get it repaired for free then thats not too bad. As long as it didn't happen on a monthly bases.

I hear ya Jack, that's a fair question.

I agree that the failure rate is atrocious. But I also think that as of right now, it has the best games available, for me at least, and I just enjoy the hell out of the console itself. I have gone through 3 already but I haven't paid for anything. It's frustrating to say the least, but I do love my 360 and use it every single day.

With that being said, I don't know what Nintendo does or how they build their consoles, but I have never had one single problem with any system. I have had each and every Nintendo console from the start, including the Wii, and I STILL use my original NES and Super Nes to this day. Works perfectly.

When its working its a fun console that offers a lot. Ours get used quite a bit and I wouldn't chuck my library of 100 or so games as well as the console because it breaks and has to go in for repairs for 2 weeks. I wouldn't just throw my hands in the air if my other consoles broke either. Hissy fits don't do much to make the situation better.

For me, I guess I have always had rotten luck with many electronic devices. iPod, PS2, Cable modem, router, my first wide screen TV (RCA 42" Tube), my car, magic bullet blender, several PC components, refrigerator... the list can go on.

Since I paid top dollar for my 360 and Microsoft has a good warranty in place, I just drop it in the mail and 2 weeks later I have it back and working. This happened once with my Pro unit (DVD Tray) and once with my Elite (E74 error). Now they work fine.

I guess I am not a "Hardcore" gamer so not having my system for a couple weeks doesn't cause me to have fits of sleeplessness or have me shaking like a junkie desperate for a fix. I put it through some long gaming sessions (8 straight Hours online in GRAW, 72 hour mode in Dead Rising) so it isn't an incompetent machine.

As long as Microsoft doesn't charge me to have their defective hardware fixed, then I can deal with it. Of course I would prefer solid hardware, but I am a realist the knows that things break. PC's say hello, and my 2 PS2's (RIP) say hi as well.

Oh, and for the haters, I am buying a PS3 soon. I love playing on the system at my friends house. I will get one either when the price drops, or if the next 2 game bundle packs in 2 solid Sony exclusive titles. Not so much for the Wii though, maybe if I impregnate someone.

1. Are there failures? Yes.
2. Are the online features above and beyond the competition, making the 360 the best console with online capabilities? Yes.

Does the distraction of #2 make the bitter pill of #1 easier to swallow? Yes, for me at least. (I'm on console #4.)

That's why.
It may be made shoddy, but when it works, it's a beautiful thing.
I flip flop between playtime on my 360 and Ps3 (meanwhile my Wii remains dusty) however the difference between Xbox Live and the PSN is night and day. I used to be all "I refuse to pay for Live now that I have the PSN also"...yeah, that went away real quick and I re-upped for Live Gold again.

Also, Congrats to the Joystiq boards for not turning this post into an all out (stupid) console fanboy flame war. Every reply (so far) was thought out, explained well, and civil. I always expect the least and you all should be congratulated; especially you, PSN:JACKOFNOTRADES85 , for asking the question in a way that didn't get anyone riled up.

Of course, grade school hasn't been let out for the day yet so we shall see...

+1 to humanity and my faith towards it.

I stick with the 360, despite two rrods, because of the game catalog and the online community. I just wouldn't have as much fun if I had a ps3.

some fanboys own more then one XBOX360 just in an case if they get RRoD or the new exclusive THE E74 .

If you have money to burn is a good solution :) besides it's a good media center so some people probably have more than one at the house, the same goes for the PS3 even more do to the fact they play blue rays, but I imagine that this has a small impact on the overall number. But a number with the number of households that have a X360 or a PS3 would be interesting for comparison

In the darkest (or reddest) days of the RRoD, it was 33% failure rate, if we were generous and stretched that rate across all 30 million, it would be an additional 10 million, and still not enough to surpass Wii

Yes I was exaggerating a bit :) but thinking about it now a bit your number is probably very high also, they reported a 1 billion dollars in loss to make up the the RRoD error if they had produce an excess of 10 Million X360 I would guess it cost more than that.

Didn't they put aside something like 1.2billion dollars for the RROD warranty extensions? If Microsoft pays $100 for every console they have to repair they set aside enough money for 12million units. Sounds like they knew a lot of xbox 360s were broken pieces of shit.

^that was supposed to be @MaRRODkez.
Joystiq's been having a few issues for me lately...

I'm trying to figure out what you were going for there. Presenting meat from inventory as in receiving my crapped out box, and then just shipping out a refurb they have lying around, is that it?

"killing zombies in coop can be annoying but its awesome."

I had to lol at this. What are you saying? Everyone is talking about rrod and you randomly bust out with how its annoying to play a video game but its awesome at the same time?

lol now that you mention it, it made me lol too, it´s because I got all escited with RE5 and well I dunno xD

Most all game traders will take broken 360s and repair them or purchase them from you and send them to be refurbished at a warehouse and sold in stores in a new refurbished labeled box or as used.