New Super Mario Bros. Wiiseems like such a simple thing -- more Mario platforming, with some multiplayer this time, but the simple fact of more Mario platforming is almost intolerably wonderful. Maybe it's because we're super-tired from E3, but just look at the footage. Look at the adorable propeller suit. Look at that cloud enemy. The giant, friendly air manta rays. There's all kinds of crazy new Mario stuff happening, even without the multiplayer.
The trailer shows the game's casual mix of coop and competitive gameplay -- sure, you can jump on each other's heads and stuff, but Luigi is also seen carrying Mario around on some moving platforms.
yeah I want to know why it took Nintendo sooooooooo long to come out with this game. I remember playing Super Mario Bros when I was 4 and wondering why they wouldn't let mario and luigi both be playing at the same time.
There's something that's been pissing me off since yesterday. I've checked several websites, and everyone is acting like a goddamn idiot about this game.
It's like no one played this version on the DS. The graphics are THE SAME. And I mean THE SAME. I have this game on the DS, and I played it with my friend (he as luigi, me as mario). And trust me: although it works as a timetrial/vs on a level, it's also a lot of fun.
But it bothers me that people are treating the game as if it was something completely different and original. This is a port of the DS game with 2 more players added, more levels and powerups, but the exact same game engine.
Yes the DS original has physics, sliding, wall jumps, etc.
It's not important, but it does bother me. Maybe no one plays the DS -.-
@ phinnvr6 : Dude, Nintendo doesn't NEED to answer to LittleBigPlanet. I'll pay whatever they ask for this game. Just like you pay whatever is asked for the next run-of-the-mill generic first/third person shooter/action/adventure title.
It's sad when all people do with LBP is make a aMario, Megaman or Sonic stage with it. Probably Nintendo decided to make a 4 player Mario game so that people could stop making one with LBP. Also they want our money and lots of it. XD. The game does look nice. But after seeing Sony's presentation (despite that glowstick/sex toy they call a controller prototype) I'll be getting a PS3 for my birthday this month. It's relatively cheap in my country. Having both a PS3 and a Wii will allow me to benefit from what both have to offer. It's great.
This is NOT A PORT. None of the levels shown are in the DS game. The propeller suit and penguin suit are not in that game. Have you played the DS game?? Did you watch the video???
Only thing I didn't like about the conference showing was that power-ups came out in groups of four when they were playing. Would be more fun if it were first-come first-serve.
Looks like a pretty fun game though, was genuinely surprised when I found out it wasn't WiiWare too.
Actually they said that was going to be the case in later levels.
I wasn’t actually sure if I wanted this game but after this trailer with Yoshi and looking at the new settings the game looks like the true successor to Super Mario World.
I can see now while your face is blurred out. This game does indeed look fantastic. But really? really? No other game at the show excited you than Super Mario Bros. Wii? I won't beat you up about it but just let me say a few things...Uncharted 2. MAG. God of War III. GT5.
I know really, Watching that uncharted 2 trailer alone kinda makes everything else dull. I leaked multiple different bodily fluids after that. Still crazy excited for God of War III and Heavy Rain and Bioshock 2.
We've seen the trailers and heard the hype for almost everything you listed. GT5? Seriously? Wow more pretty cars. Uncharted wasn't that great, I got extremely tired of murdering hundrends of people just to get a glimpse of a gold statue... GoW, yes I'm excited. But it's been 2 years since played a GoW, it's been over 10 since I played a console 2d Mario.
@ Storm Eagle - This is definitely the game of the show for local multiplayer aficionados. Maybe if that Mod Nation Racers supports 2-4 player split-sceen, it's an even tie (my personal favorite game has been The Last Guardian though)
The only games out there anymore that offer this kind of competitive coop are Rock Band or mini game compilations, and they are getting (in the case of minigames, have always been) old and stale. As much as I'm looking forward to playing some Uncharted 2 on my downtime, I'm always looking for a fun game that can spark a fun camaraderie between four people lounging on my sofa.
Ugh, now I wish they would have announced Four Swords Adventures 2!
I wish I could easily be pleased like you. I own a 360 & a PS3 (sold the Wii) and I cannot wait for Uncharted 2, GOW II, Forza 3, Crackdown 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, and Natal.
No offense but the only way Super Mario Bros Wii would get me excited is if I exited the womb just 5 years ago and the world is all new to me, the mere smell of cupcakes and maple syrup while watching Thomas the Train on Sprout would probably be the highlight of my sweet short life
"I got extremely tired of murdering hundrends of people just to get a glimpse of a gold statue"
I'm fine with you looking forward NSMB Wii, but this statement is an odd way to describe Uncharted. These people you are supposedly "murdering" are mercenaries that attacked, robbed, and attempted to kill you first. You make it sound like Drake is on some sort of no holds barred quest for treasure killing innocent people along the way.
@Leobebes That explains it. You sold your Wii so you have to make do with what you got and your jealousy brought you here to complain. Coming into a thread for a game that belongs to a console you don't own is just sad, but I welcome you.
You also probably don't have any friends. I'm sure you're very popular on the internet, but the last time you sat down and played a video game in the same room as some one was at some SF2 tournament in 95.
Your choice in games says to me that you eat the Hype. You probably have no opinions for yourself and whatever is shown during a conference of the system you own you swallow down and then run off to pre-order it with daddy's credit card. This is fine, you'll learn how to judge a game for yourself one day. I'll be excited for you when you do.
Actually Storm Eagle, I don't have a PS3 yet (waiting for case redesign and BC), but I do consider myself a PSWii gamer because those are what I'm interested in. And I have to say, MAG, Uncharted 2, and GOW3 all look nice, but not "oh my god I must have that, show me more" amazing. GT5 I don't count at all, since the only racing game I've ever found engaging is Burnout.
I have to say that I thought Nintendo did a much better job than Sony in terms of getting my interest, even though Sony had the better presentation in terms of optics. Nintendo did a crappy job of announcing titles, and because of the way they lingered on things, made it seem like they were still very heavily focused on the casual market. Iwata seemed depressed about the Vitality Sensor, and they had no software to demonstrate it with, but it could potentially be an extremely interesting piece of equipment if handled well. I really want to see what Nintendo has in mind for it. Likewise, I want to see more of Other M, and exactly where they're going with it. Miyamoto talking about Wii Zelda is also nice to hear. Galaxy 2 would be great had I completed the original; it's still very interesting that the Wii gets only the second Mario Gaiden since the SNES (and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them give Wii a SMB3 too).
Sony did everything "right", but it felt like I was watching a generic video game magazine, not an E3 event. They had footage of games they had announced, new game announcements, new hardware announcements, but out of all of it nothing screamed "OH WOW FINALLY". Final Fantasy XIV had me excited for a minute, but that was the FFXI playing part of me I long ago abandoned. Nothing wrong with being an MMO, but I highly doubt I'll be devoting that much time and energy to a game again. I was more excited for my friends than anything. Sony told me nothing I wanted to hear and didn't know (details on the digitalization of PSP, new PS3 hardware, PSP games, bizzare games), and the stuff I did want to hear had already been leaked (PSP go, I don't care about the console, but PSP digitalization is great. Peace Walker, glad to see a trailer, but PO2 was already out there. The Last Guardian, again it's nice to see an updated trailer, but it wasn't anything new, just better).
Even if they hadn't been leaked, I still would've been disappointed-- I have ICO and MGS in 'media blackout' mode; I gather a couple basic details, and then buy the game in a leap of faith with the developer based on past holyfuckness. I'd hear new game, watch trailer, be giddy, and that would be it. PSP Go announcement would still be very annoying because they don't explain how it will be handled. How many UMD games will we see on PSN in the coming months? PS1 games? Will the Media Manager be updated to allow us to digitalize our UMD games? PS1 games? Will we be able to take them to kiosks? Sony approved retailers? Mail them in? Will *that* apply to PS1 games? What about my games from the UK, how will I digitalize them? Can PS1 games be modified at least to fully fit the screen without stretching? Will you allow the PSP to store multiple account certificates (at least one per region) so that you do not have to constantly futz with the PSN to play games from other accounts/regions? Will you allow PSP games to be published that exceed the size limits of UMD, now that they're downloadable? Will all UMD games be required to be on PSN? Starting when? Will it be like trophies, where it's "all games treated after X date", or will it just be "all games released after X date"? If you don't have an official method to digitalize UMD games, will you make an effort to work with stores such as GameStop to ensure that people do not lose money by abandoning their UMDs for downloads?
The difference mainly being that with Nintendo, the unanswered questions are "Well! That was certainly different. I wonder where they're headed with this.". With Sony, it's "Man. I can see how other people are excited, but I am really annoyed. I wanted them to talk about these things which they clearly need to respond to.". Nintendo seemed like a college film project-- pretty poor production, but the underlying concept is fascinating. Sony seemed like a Hollywood blockbuster-- pretty tight visuals, but the story never surprised you; overall it wasn't terrible, but you're not going to watch it again.
@Vidikron It wasn't the motivation that I had a problem with. It was the volumn of the killings.
In Killzone I slaughtered thousands probably. Yet in a war where I am one of the top ranking elites of the invading planet it seems to make sense. In Uncharted I am an explorer seeking out some lost treasure. I didn't hear about any special weapons or military training. yet the first thing I did in the game was kill two dozen pirates that attacked my boat.
It also got very repetitive. Every new room I entered I had to find cover, kill the two missile launcher guys or guys with scopes, kill the others and then find cover else where to prepare for the second wave. After the 10th time that got old.
I loved the story, the platforming pieces were fun, and the puzzles were simple but broke up the game well. The fighting just wore me down though.
DarrenHollywood I never approve the use of personal insults to make a point since is just a troll tactic to infuriate someone hoping they post something stupid we can laugh on...on the other hand proceed.
Now I don’t agree with Leo,I think this is a generation which Family oriented games are understood as ghey and only if the game has gore and tits is mature. For example Grand theft Auto 4 was one of my favorite games this generation for the story alone and it treated the mature audience with respect and you know how their audience responded? They hated it because you couldn’t get naked on a street and blow stuff like in Saints Row so Rockstar incorporate dick jokes in the DLC so they didn’t lose their audience, really sad.
Family oriented games are treated like crap regardless of how good they are if anything the Super Mario series are games for everyone and anyone and they don’t insult the player with easy levels.There are several levels in Super Mario Galaxy that can kick your ass and if you say to anyone who played Super Mario 2 the Lost levels that is a game for Babies he will punch in the face.
Not to mention there are more kids playing Mature games that games like bloom box or little big planet.
Nintendo needs to fire Cammie, ban Reggie from giving presentations, and hire some new PR. Their presentation was atrocious. In spite of that, and the fact that they did a bad job of covering new announcements (like WarioWare DIY; if it's anything like the Japanese version Made in Ore, it will also be a new Wii game, and a very interesting one at that), they still had things that drew my interest, and made me want to know more.
Sony had all the right moves, but it was too predictable, like a summer action movie. It seemed cliched at best. The only new thing there I didn't know about was something I'm probably not going to want to play. They didn't show me anything that amazed me, or got me thinking, nor did they answer any of the questions about the PSP, PSN, and firmware updates that I have been wondering about.
Despite Sony's conference being technically superior, like an analogy to their consoles, I cannot help but find Nintendo's more interesting, if not necessarily "better".
"They hated it because you couldn’t get naked on a street and blow stuff like in Saints Row so Rockstar incorporate dick jokes in the DLC so they didn’t lose their audience, really sad."
Woah... what? First off, a lot of people do like GTAIV. But, yes, many were disappointed and I haven't seen one person say it was because of what you stated. And you act like GTAIV before the DLC didn't have stuff like that yet it was all over the place (logo for the bowlign alley for example). People SR2 because it's simply more fun to play.
@Manly Mcbeefington I completely agree with what everything you posted. I'm sure the sad state of how adult games and family friendly games are viewed will pass. It's a vocal age group that reports most things as Fail or Win. It's sad to see a game like this placed in the same group as Petz, when it should stand out as the "Shrek" of gaming. Something for everyone, enjoyed by all, and it doesn't have to leave anyone out.
On the personal attacks note. Some people just scream for it and I can't help myself when they make it so easy.
"Super Mario series are games for everyone and anyone and they don’t insult the player with easy levels."
I'd also like to point out that this isn't entirely true. Galaxy certainly has some challenging levels, but NSMB was VERY easy. I still loved the game, but I finished the game with my extra lives maxed out at 99. Galaxy, if anything, is guilty of being utterly devoid of a smooth difficulty curve. One level may be play blindfolded easy and the next may be quite difficult... and then back again.
Oh Stix, be careful, when I pointed out none of us knew when GT5 was coming yesterday they had a hissy fit around here. Apparently we're just supposed to stay excited as all hell year after year even without it showing up.
Who does this guy think he is for being excited by a Nintendo game!? Burn him! Burn the witch!! *sigh*
Don't get me wrong just because I prefer "hardcore" games like God of War or Splinter Cell this generation which include a lot of tits, ass, and blood doesn't necessarily mean I am dismissing family oriented game. My favorite game this generation has been Braid and I love playing Rock Band with my friends, but 2D Mario games have been stagnant ever since SNES' Yoshi Island. Mario Galaxy 2, I could see getting excited over this game, but a 2D mario game on a console that could barely push the envelope amongst its competitors in innovation, I hardly see a reason to get excited.
Also if you claim a good game like Uncharted is just murder simulator without a plot then don't get butt hurt when you get called out on your stubborn, juvenile, solely nostalgic appeal for a 2D Mario game that belongs on a handheld.
Damn my memory I forgot about NSMB which is funny because this game looks like it, yeah it was easy as pie I don't know if it was supposed to be like that.
Galaxy has some hard levels but they aren't part of the game if you want to finish it. l guess they didn't wanted anyone to get frustrated but you are right.
About GTA well that’s the impression I get judging from the reaction in forums and even articles posted here, I know the normal game has dirty jokes almost everywhere you look I guess a constant reminder of the decadency of modern society although I could be looking too deep into a glass of water.
What really bothers me was the way everyone quickly forgot about the story in fact anyone rarely mentions it anymore all I read is “This game sucked, San Andreas was better”.the story should get a merit.
@Leobebes: "but a 2D mario game on a console that could barely push the envelope amongst its competitors in innovation"
Are we talking about the same system? The Wii was the ONLY console to innovate in this generation. The Wii decided to change things up instead of just adding HD graphics like Microsoft and Sony's consoles. Now they are the ones that have to catch up with innovations and "gimmicks."
"Hardcore" does not mean a game has tits and gore. It's all in how you play it. Maybe you should stop posting until you actually know what the hell you're talking about.
I too own a PS3 and a Wii, and this game definitely has me pumped for some Wii action (there's a pun hidden in there somewhere, I just know it). As someone said before, it does look like the "faithful" successor to Super Mario World.
I don't mind getting nostalgic with some 2-D side scrolling action...I mean beside LBP, of course.
And plus I'm still a sucker for yet another Mario game (except Sunshine!).
But damn, four Mario games at one conference? Wow. Mario RPG 3 Mario Galaxy New SMB Wii and Mario vs Donkey Kong?
Geez... " -Hey, last year, our conference sucked... So what do we do? - I dunno, throw a bunch of Mario games at them... Or a, whatyoucallem..., Metroids or something... can't you see I'm busy counting money?"
“Bad if they do, Bad if they don't” I don’t see anything wrong with Mario games If anything we have criticizing Nintendo for the lack of good Wii first party games lately.
Although it would be more exciting if this was Dsi exclusive and connected to Super Mario Galaxy 2.
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lockheede @ Jun 3rd 2009 12:56PM
This looks like the 4-player mode could be fun.
charlie b. @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:07PM
it does look like it could be fun, but the mouthful of a title gets on my nerves.
Christ-ian @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:13PM
It was a lot of fun in Little Big Planet, so I'm sure it'll be fun here.
I'm not bitter.
MrEverdred01 @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:27PM
yeah I want to know why it took Nintendo sooooooooo long to come out with this game. I remember playing Super Mario Bros when I was 4 and wondering why they wouldn't let mario and luigi both be playing at the same time.
phinnvr6 @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:31PM
Is this Nintendo's answer to LittleBigPlanet? The same old game with more players. Looks fun but come on. I wouldn't buy it if it was more than $20.
Dave @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:55PM
@phinnvr6
Nintendo wouldn't buy YOU if you were more than $20.
Killjebus...PSN Killjebus @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:11PM
According to Miyamoto....this game is ONLY possible because of the POWER of the Wii processor.
No, I'm not kidding, he really said it.
But even with the "power" of the Wii, you still CANNOT play this game online.
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-339238.aspx?CT=1&Page=1&Page2=1#C2422610
1cc @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:59PM
There's something that's been pissing me off since yesterday. I've checked several websites, and everyone is acting like a goddamn idiot about this game.
It's like no one played this version on the DS. The graphics are THE SAME. And I mean THE SAME. I have this game on the DS, and I played it with my friend (he as luigi, me as mario). And trust me: although it works as a timetrial/vs on a level, it's also a lot of fun.
But it bothers me that people are treating the game as if it was something completely different and original. This is a port of the DS game with 2 more players added, more levels and powerups, but the exact same game engine.
Yes the DS original has physics, sliding, wall jumps, etc.
It's not important, but it does bother me. Maybe no one plays the DS -.-
Jimbotron @ Jun 3rd 2009 3:04PM
@ phinnvr6 : Dude, Nintendo doesn't NEED to answer to LittleBigPlanet. I'll pay whatever they ask for this game. Just like you pay whatever is asked for the next run-of-the-mill generic first/third person shooter/action/adventure title.
DCBlack @ Jun 3rd 2009 3:26PM
@1cc
I don't have a DS, though I thought about getting one just for that game. But now that it's coming to Wii, I'll be happy to wait for it.
modnite @ Jun 3rd 2009 3:58PM
It's sad when all people do with LBP is make a aMario, Megaman or Sonic stage with it. Probably Nintendo decided to make a 4 player Mario game so that people could stop making one with LBP. Also they want our money and lots of it. XD. The game does look nice. But after seeing Sony's presentation (despite that glowstick/sex toy they call a controller prototype) I'll be getting a PS3 for my birthday this month. It's relatively cheap in my country. Having both a PS3 and a Wii will allow me to benefit from what both have to offer. It's great.
x0rn @ Jun 3rd 2009 4:40PM
@1cc
This is NOT A PORT.
None of the levels shown are in the DS game. The propeller suit and penguin suit are not in that game. Have you played the DS game?? Did you watch the video???
cuteSAVAGE @ Jun 3rd 2009 12:58PM
Only thing I didn't like about the conference showing was that power-ups came out in groups of four when they were playing. Would be more fun if it were first-come first-serve.
Looks like a pretty fun game though, was genuinely surprised when I found out it wasn't WiiWare too.
DarrenHollywood @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:06PM
That's another part of it being competitive or co-operative. If you want it to be competitive than snatch 'em all up.
Manly Mcbeefington (Mr. ESC) @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:19PM
Actually they said that was going to be the case in later levels.
I wasn’t actually sure if I wanted this game but after this trailer with Yoshi and looking at the new settings the game looks like the true successor to Super Mario World.
cuteSAVAGE @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:23PM
Awesome. Must have missed those features :D
Really hope it has that wicked fun turtle shell power-up from NSMB too.
DarrenHollywood @ Jun 3rd 2009 12:58PM
So far this is seriously my most anticipated game of the show. Owning both a PS3 and a Wii no other game on those consoles has be as excited.
Storm Eagle @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:03PM
I can see now while your face is blurred out. This game does indeed look fantastic. But really? really? No other game at the show excited you than Super Mario Bros. Wii? I won't beat you up about it but just let me say a few things...Uncharted 2. MAG. God of War III. GT5.
Eric E @ Jun 3rd 2009 3:53PM
I know really, Watching that uncharted 2 trailer alone kinda makes everything else dull. I leaked multiple different bodily fluids after that.
Still crazy excited for God of War III and Heavy Rain and Bioshock 2.
DarrenHollywood @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:12PM
We've seen the trailers and heard the hype for almost everything you listed. GT5? Seriously? Wow more pretty cars. Uncharted wasn't that great, I got extremely tired of murdering hundrends of people just to get a glimpse of a gold statue... GoW, yes I'm excited. But it's been 2 years since played a GoW, it's been over 10 since I played a console 2d Mario.
cuteSAVAGE @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:16PM
@ Storm Eagle - This is definitely the game of the show for local multiplayer aficionados. Maybe if that Mod Nation Racers supports 2-4 player split-sceen, it's an even tie (my personal favorite game has been The Last Guardian though)
The only games out there anymore that offer this kind of competitive coop are Rock Band or mini game compilations, and they are getting (in the case of minigames, have always been) old and stale. As much as I'm looking forward to playing some Uncharted 2 on my downtime, I'm always looking for a fun game that can spark a fun camaraderie between four people lounging on my sofa.
Ugh, now I wish they would have announced Four Swords Adventures 2!
Stix Remix @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:16PM
Plus, who even knows when GT5 is gonna come out.... really.
Leobebes (BDF: Braid Defence Force) @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:20PM
@Darren
I wish I could easily be pleased like you. I own a 360 & a PS3 (sold the Wii) and I cannot wait for Uncharted 2, GOW II, Forza 3, Crackdown 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, and Natal.
No offense but the only way Super Mario Bros Wii would get me excited is if I exited the womb just 5 years ago and the world is all new to me, the mere smell of cupcakes and maple syrup while watching Thomas the Train on Sprout would probably be the highlight of my sweet short life
Manly Mcbeefington (Mr. ESC) @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:24PM
Well Little Big Planet offers a similar co-op challenge if you can find a party online.
Personally I prefer single player games; I don’t like being tied to what my partners are doing.
Since everyone is talking about their favorite E3 games my most anticipated games are Heavy Rain and Alan Wake.
Vidikron @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:30PM
"I got extremely tired of murdering hundrends of people just to get a glimpse of a gold statue"
I'm fine with you looking forward NSMB Wii, but this statement is an odd way to describe Uncharted. These people you are supposedly "murdering" are mercenaries that attacked, robbed, and attempted to kill you first. You make it sound like Drake is on some sort of no holds barred quest for treasure killing innocent people along the way.
DarrenHollywood @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:32PM
@Leobebes
That explains it. You sold your Wii so you have to make do with what you got and your jealousy brought you here to complain. Coming into a thread for a game that belongs to a console you don't own is just sad, but I welcome you.
You also probably don't have any friends. I'm sure you're very popular on the internet, but the last time you sat down and played a video game in the same room as some one was at some SF2 tournament in 95.
Your choice in games says to me that you eat the Hype. You probably have no opinions for yourself and whatever is shown during a conference of the system you own you swallow down and then run off to pre-order it with daddy's credit card. This is fine, you'll learn how to judge a game for yourself one day. I'll be excited for you when you do.
Feba @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:35PM
Actually Storm Eagle, I don't have a PS3 yet (waiting for case redesign and BC), but I do consider myself a PSWii gamer because those are what I'm interested in. And I have to say, MAG, Uncharted 2, and GOW3 all look nice, but not "oh my god I must have that, show me more" amazing. GT5 I don't count at all, since the only racing game I've ever found engaging is Burnout.
I have to say that I thought Nintendo did a much better job than Sony in terms of getting my interest, even though Sony had the better presentation in terms of optics. Nintendo did a crappy job of announcing titles, and because of the way they lingered on things, made it seem like they were still very heavily focused on the casual market. Iwata seemed depressed about the Vitality Sensor, and they had no software to demonstrate it with, but it could potentially be an extremely interesting piece of equipment if handled well. I really want to see what Nintendo has in mind for it. Likewise, I want to see more of Other M, and exactly where they're going with it. Miyamoto talking about Wii Zelda is also nice to hear. Galaxy 2 would be great had I completed the original; it's still very interesting that the Wii gets only the second Mario Gaiden since the SNES (and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them give Wii a SMB3 too).
Sony did everything "right", but it felt like I was watching a generic video game magazine, not an E3 event. They had footage of games they had announced, new game announcements, new hardware announcements, but out of all of it nothing screamed "OH WOW FINALLY". Final Fantasy XIV had me excited for a minute, but that was the FFXI playing part of me I long ago abandoned. Nothing wrong with being an MMO, but I highly doubt I'll be devoting that much time and energy to a game again. I was more excited for my friends than anything. Sony told me nothing I wanted to hear and didn't know (details on the digitalization of PSP, new PS3 hardware, PSP games, bizzare games), and the stuff I did want to hear had already been leaked (PSP go, I don't care about the console, but PSP digitalization is great. Peace Walker, glad to see a trailer, but PO2 was already out there. The Last Guardian, again it's nice to see an updated trailer, but it wasn't anything new, just better).
Even if they hadn't been leaked, I still would've been disappointed-- I have ICO and MGS in 'media blackout' mode; I gather a couple basic details, and then buy the game in a leap of faith with the developer based on past holyfuckness. I'd hear new game, watch trailer, be giddy, and that would be it. PSP Go announcement would still be very annoying because they don't explain how it will be handled. How many UMD games will we see on PSN in the coming months? PS1 games? Will the Media Manager be updated to allow us to digitalize our UMD games? PS1 games? Will we be able to take them to kiosks? Sony approved retailers? Mail them in? Will *that* apply to PS1 games? What about my games from the UK, how will I digitalize them? Can PS1 games be modified at least to fully fit the screen without stretching? Will you allow the PSP to store multiple account certificates (at least one per region) so that you do not have to constantly futz with the PSN to play games from other accounts/regions? Will you allow PSP games to be published that exceed the size limits of UMD, now that they're downloadable? Will all UMD games be required to be on PSN? Starting when? Will it be like trophies, where it's "all games treated after X date", or will it just be "all games released after X date"? If you don't have an official method to digitalize UMD games, will you make an effort to work with stores such as GameStop to ensure that people do not lose money by abandoning their UMDs for downloads?
The difference mainly being that with Nintendo, the unanswered questions are "Well! That was certainly different. I wonder where they're headed with this.". With Sony, it's "Man. I can see how other people are excited, but I am really annoyed. I wanted them to talk about these things which they clearly need to respond to.". Nintendo seemed like a college film project-- pretty poor production, but the underlying concept is fascinating. Sony seemed like a Hollywood blockbuster-- pretty tight visuals, but the story never surprised you; overall it wasn't terrible, but you're not going to watch it again.
Heh @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:36PM
Feba - tl;dr pls
DarrenHollywood @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:38PM
@Vidikron
It wasn't the motivation that I had a problem with. It was the volumn of the killings.
In Killzone I slaughtered thousands probably. Yet in a war where I am one of the top ranking elites of the invading planet it seems to make sense.
In Uncharted I am an explorer seeking out some lost treasure. I didn't hear about any special weapons or military training. yet the first thing I did in the game was kill two dozen pirates that attacked my boat.
It also got very repetitive. Every new room I entered I had to find cover, kill the two missile launcher guys or guys with scopes, kill the others and then find cover else where to prepare for the second wave. After the 10th time that got old.
I loved the story, the platforming pieces were fun, and the puzzles were simple but broke up the game well. The fighting just wore me down though.
Manly Mcbeefington (Mr. ESC) @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:46PM
DarrenHollywood I never approve the use of personal insults to make a point since is just a troll tactic to infuriate someone hoping they post something stupid we can laugh on...on the other hand proceed.
Now I don’t agree with Leo,I think this is a generation which Family oriented games are understood as ghey and only if the game has gore and tits is mature. For example Grand theft Auto 4 was one of my favorite games this generation for the story alone and it treated the mature audience with respect and you know how their audience responded? They hated it because you couldn’t get naked on a street and blow stuff like in Saints Row so Rockstar incorporate dick jokes in the DLC so they didn’t lose their audience, really sad.
Family oriented games are treated like crap regardless of how good they are if anything the Super Mario series are games for everyone and anyone and they don’t insult the player with easy levels.There are several levels in Super Mario Galaxy that can kick your ass and if you say to anyone who played Super Mario 2 the Lost levels that is a game for Babies he will punch in the face.
Not to mention there are more kids playing Mature games that games like bloom box or little big planet.
Feba @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:49PM
heh- tl;dr:
Nintendo needs to fire Cammie, ban Reggie from giving presentations, and hire some new PR. Their presentation was atrocious. In spite of that, and the fact that they did a bad job of covering new announcements (like WarioWare DIY; if it's anything like the Japanese version Made in Ore, it will also be a new Wii game, and a very interesting one at that), they still had things that drew my interest, and made me want to know more.
Sony had all the right moves, but it was too predictable, like a summer action movie. It seemed cliched at best. The only new thing there I didn't know about was something I'm probably not going to want to play. They didn't show me anything that amazed me, or got me thinking, nor did they answer any of the questions about the PSP, PSN, and firmware updates that I have been wondering about.
Despite Sony's conference being technically superior, like an analogy to their consoles, I cannot help but find Nintendo's more interesting, if not necessarily "better".
Vidikron @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:52PM
"They hated it because you couldn’t get naked on a street and blow stuff like in Saints Row so Rockstar incorporate dick jokes in the DLC so they didn’t lose their audience, really sad."
Woah... what? First off, a lot of people do like GTAIV. But, yes, many were disappointed and I haven't seen one person say it was because of what you stated. And you act like GTAIV before the DLC didn't have stuff like that yet it was all over the place (logo for the bowlign alley for example). People SR2 because it's simply more fun to play.
Vidikron @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:54PM
*People prefer
DarrenHollywood @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:00PM
@Manly Mcbeefington
I completely agree with what everything you posted. I'm sure the sad state of how adult games and family friendly games are viewed will pass. It's a vocal age group that reports most things as Fail or Win. It's sad to see a game like this placed in the same group as Petz, when it should stand out as the "Shrek" of gaming. Something for everyone, enjoyed by all, and it doesn't have to leave anyone out.
On the personal attacks note. Some people just scream for it and I can't help myself when they make it so easy.
Vidikron @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:02PM
"Super Mario series are games for everyone and anyone and they don’t insult the player with easy levels."
I'd also like to point out that this isn't entirely true. Galaxy certainly has some challenging levels, but NSMB was VERY easy. I still loved the game, but I finished the game with my extra lives maxed out at 99. Galaxy, if anything, is guilty of being utterly devoid of a smooth difficulty curve. One level may be play blindfolded easy and the next may be quite difficult... and then back again.
Duke @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:08PM
Oh Stix, be careful, when I pointed out none of us knew when GT5 was coming yesterday they had a hissy fit around here. Apparently we're just supposed to stay excited as all hell year after year even without it showing up.
Who does this guy think he is for being excited by a Nintendo game!? Burn him! Burn the witch!! *sigh*
Leobebes (BDF: Braid Defence Force) @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:12PM
Don't get me wrong just because I prefer "hardcore" games like God of War or Splinter Cell this generation which include a lot of tits, ass, and blood doesn't necessarily mean I am dismissing family oriented game. My favorite game this generation has been Braid and I love playing Rock Band with my friends, but 2D Mario games have been stagnant ever since SNES' Yoshi Island. Mario Galaxy 2, I could see getting excited over this game, but a 2D mario game on a console that could barely push the envelope amongst its competitors in innovation, I hardly see a reason to get excited.
Also if you claim a good game like Uncharted is just murder simulator without a plot then don't get butt hurt when you get called out on your stubborn, juvenile, solely nostalgic appeal for a 2D Mario game that belongs on a handheld.
Manly Mcbeefington (Mr. ESC) @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:19PM
Damn my memory I forgot about NSMB which is funny because this game looks like it, yeah it was easy as pie I don't know if it was supposed to be like that.
Galaxy has some hard levels but they aren't part of the game if you want to finish it. l guess they didn't wanted anyone to get frustrated but you are right.
About GTA well that’s the impression I get judging from the reaction in forums and even articles posted here, I know the normal game has dirty jokes almost everywhere you look I guess a constant reminder of the decadency of modern society although I could be looking too deep into a glass of water.
What really bothers me was the way everyone quickly forgot about the story in fact anyone rarely mentions it anymore all I read is “This game sucked, San Andreas was better”.the story should get a merit.
Stix Remix @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:29PM
@Leobebes: "but a 2D mario game on a console that could barely push the envelope amongst its competitors in innovation"
Are we talking about the same system? The Wii was the ONLY console to innovate in this generation. The Wii decided to change things up instead of just adding HD graphics like Microsoft and Sony's consoles. Now they are the ones that have to catch up with innovations and "gimmicks."
Storm Eagle @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:35PM
Ok. I'll try to cover all this.
#1 @Saria Your big words don't scare me ;) I am looking forward to NSMBW (wow) but more so to a lot of other games, that's all.
#2 @Darren That's fine if you're into the multiplayer thing, but don't sleep on the Uncharted 2 multi. Just sayin.
#3@Feba You type too much. I'm not reading all of that.
#4@ Everyoneelse I'm really sorry for starting all of this.
Haohmaru (PSN - DimmuBurgerKing XBL - A Real Puppet ) @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:44PM
@Leobebes
"Hardcore" does not mean a game has tits and gore. It's all in how you play it. Maybe you should stop posting until you actually know what the hell you're talking about.
FrankDrebin @ Jun 3rd 2009 2:52PM
damn, darren, i completely agree with you. well, almost, cos' the wierdness of tecmo's metroid also got me :P
Leobebes (BDF: Braid Defence Force) @ Jun 3rd 2009 3:54PM
@Haohmaru
Maybe you shouldn't be the one rushing to post because you don't understand nuance.
There is a reason I put quotations around the word "hardcore".
KenSharp @ Jun 4th 2009 3:12PM
I too own a PS3 and a Wii, and this game definitely has me pumped for some Wii action (there's a pun hidden in there somewhere, I just know it). As someone said before, it does look like the "faithful" successor to Super Mario World.
I don't mind getting nostalgic with some 2-D side scrolling action...I mean beside LBP, of course.
And plus I'm still a sucker for yet another Mario game (except Sunshine!).
JerJer @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:00PM
meh :/ wanted to be excited
Heh @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:03PM
Same. Just like I told fernando earlier, Mario games have somewhat fizzled for me as-of-late.
mr nimblewick @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:05PM
Even Galaxy?
I agree that NSMB didn't match the great level designs of it's predecessors, though.
Archon (PSN: Archonik, XBL: DarkARHN) @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:14PM
But damn, four Mario games at one conference? Wow.
Mario RPG 3
Mario Galaxy
New SMB Wii
and
Mario vs Donkey Kong?
Geez...
"
-Hey, last year, our conference sucked... So what do we do?
- I dunno, throw a bunch of Mario games at them... Or a, whatyoucallem..., Metroids or something... can't you see I'm busy counting money?"
Manly Mcbeefington (Mr. ESC) @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:29PM
“Bad if they do, Bad if they don't” I don’t see anything wrong with Mario games If anything we have criticizing Nintendo for the lack of good Wii first party games lately.
Although it would be more exciting if this was Dsi exclusive and connected to Super Mario Galaxy 2.
Cheezeman3000 @ Jun 3rd 2009 1:00PM
This looks amazingly fun. Seriously, one of my new highest anticipated titles for this year. It... IS coming out this year yes?