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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:24PM Turles said

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Make it $20 and give it online multiplayer and I'll TAKE it!

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:23PM (Unverified) said

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Given how badly third party games sell on the wii, chances are high it will be $20 after a month or so.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:44PM Mr Khan said

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And yet HIgh Voltage Studios will still see profit, and be able to continue functioning, instead of going into bankruptcy
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 6:50PM (Unverified) said

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Mr. Khan, please refrain from making logical statement around tmac. He will implode.

On another note, I love how HVS is like basically taking everything a gamer like myself and many others would think of/want in a game, and just incorporating it because they can and it's very feasible.

I think these guys can out develop some of the first party Nintendo developers for Wii in certain regards.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 11:58PM Da Largest said

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"I think these guys can out develop some of the first party Nintendo developers for Wii in certain regards."

And you can base this on what you've played so far, rite?

I don't think putting what gamers want in a game is what makes a dev good. Not after having played through Twilight Princess.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:29PM ilduce620 said

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This is one of those games where I'm glad a company is making it, but I'm not particularly interested. I certainly hope it does well, though! Just not for me... Maybe after I see it in motion or something...

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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"And visually, the game was surprisingly polished considering it was such an early build. The textures on each fighter, especially their equipment, were really surprising."

But how is that suppose to help nintendo bashers agenda?

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:42PM hxczuner said

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What? It won't help any Ninty-bashers agenda; it'll actually hurt it to some degree if i had to guess. I know the wii isn't the most powerful system ever (gamecubem1.5) but it's a lot more powerful then people seem to think. It just needs developers to actually try
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:45PM ChaoticStrike said

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Since when did they use logic?
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:46PM (Unverified) said

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@Hxczuner

I know man.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:50PM (Unverified) said

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The Cube had some goddamned good visuals in some cases.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:54PM (Unverified) said

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I think there was a fair bit of sarcasm in the post here. :)
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:40PM Mr Khan said

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Easy: those textures suck.

Now the Nintendo bashers are pleased
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 4:48PM cylet said

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COOL 300 style combat with pretty nice looking graphics for the wii

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:07PM (Unverified) said

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yeah, youd think it was only an early build or something...
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/21/call-of-duty-4-footage-shows-bleak-cityscape/

Pretty sure that was pre alpha too, and it looked great. Stop being a nintendo apologist.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:17PM (Unverified) said

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It does look like Ass ass from those, But I dont trust pictures until I see the game in motion. It works both ways.

The games pictures could look bad but in motion it might pull it off. (example: Metroid Prime) And a game may look good online but when you play it, it turns out I dont need to see glessened byceps on some meatheaded douchebag (example: god of war)
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:26PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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The pictures make the video look like the Mona Lisa...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR10NFfBweg
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:28PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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Excuse me, the video makes the pictures look like the Mona Lisa
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:40PM velocitystrike said

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I'm tempted to spout the usual "I'm sure it looks a helluva lot better in motion" but I can only agree with you at the moment. High Voltage probably know just what they're doing though; optimism is key!
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Posted: Jun 6th 2009 5:42AM AntiVillian said

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Looks pretty good to me
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:13PM (Unverified) said

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So... is there any movement outside the arena?

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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Hmmmm. I am still going to sell my wii and get a xbox 360 or Ps3

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:22PM (Unverified) said

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Whichever one you get you're definitely making a great choice. Then again, upgrading usually is.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:23PM Istari Spartan said

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Can't blame you for feeling like that
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:42PM velocitystrike said

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Hello, tmacairjordan87. Please explain 'upgrading'.

Thanks.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:42PM Mr Khan said

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What a useful, constructive comment. Thank you for contributing.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:46PM (Unverified) said

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Surely after 4 years into this generation I don't have to explain again why going from a wii to a 360/ps3 is an upgrade?
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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May as well skip those and go straight to PC. I mean PC can put out better graphics than any console can, so that totally invalidates all console gaming, right?
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 6:04PM ChrisAre said

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Yeah I totally disagree w/ the "upgrading" comment. Each system is wonderful for different reasons. If I were you I'd save up a little longer and just buy one of the systems w/o selling your Wii. I'm very happy having a Wii and PS3.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 6:23PM guttertalk said

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@tmac:

Your schtick is old.

If the 360 and PS3 are upgrades, then why has the Wii outsold them. If you are restricting upgrade to graphics, yes, that is an upgrade. If you're talking about reliable hardware, the 360 is a downgrade.

If you weren't such a graphics slut, you'd recognize that each console has its advantages and problems. I have about 3 360 games that I will play the heck out of for the next 3-6 months. But I have twice that many Wii games that I will play in that time. Value comes not from specs but from the gamer's decision of cost and return. And value is what drives the market.

It's amazing that people who play games so much are so utterly stupid about them.

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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 8:33PM matias said

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you're completely right guttertalk, becasue I have the same issue, I have 3 times more games for the wii than the 360 (wich I bought because it was the one with more jrpgs).

People that say that the other consoles are an upgrade are stupid, the wii is unique (and the control is welcomed in games that make good use of it, like metroid, nmh, etc, but the 360 and ps3 are just like their past versions with better graphics and processor (and they're even alike bewteen them).

And then there is people that say "at last my wii is going to have some use", learn how to search games and get inormation for yourself, the wii has some great unkown gems (or even some that aren't unknown but people still like to bash them).
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 8:35PM matias said

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this page needs an edit button, because I made some ugly mistakes in my post, like "bewteen", and a parenthesis that I didn't close >_>.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 9:21PM Foetoid said

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Going from Wii to 360/Ps3 is definatly an upgrade. You're going from fantastic FPS controls to barbaric, innaccurate FPS controls that were surpassed before they were introduced (yes, N64 FPS controls were better)

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oh wait that ISN'T an upgrade. Oops.

Don't even bother with the graphics argument. I just purchased FFIV: The After Years and it's excellent, just as I will buy Golden Sun DS. Too many people obsessed with graphics, games can be good without them. Hence why the N64 version of CBFD was a lot better than the XBox version. Graphics don't mean shit. They're nice too look at, i upgraded my GC Pikmin games to the Wii versions because of the controls improvement and graphical enhancement and i own a high-end PC, but they're not needed. I have more fun with Plants Vs Zombies than any other HD big-wig high-end PC release of the last 20 months.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 11:44PM Da Largest said

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Usually I try to ignore your posts, Foetoid, because while I do respect you as a poster, some of your exaggerations are borderline retarded (like "barbaric, innaccurate FPS controls") but the moment I saw you try to say that N64 shooter controls surpassed dual analog controls...

well, it's gonna be very hard for me to take you seriously from now on. Grasping at straws, dude.

Especially since you think Wii controls are some revolution for FPS play when there's only one half decent FPS on the Wii (WaW) and even that's a very limited port of the other versions (not to mention the servers have been outta whack lately). I'm not counting Metroid Prime 3 because I consider that a 'first person adventure' and even then the controls aren't that great (you don't turn nearly fast enough), and Medal of Honor Heroes 2 isn't even worth mentioning, the controls were good but the game was a mess.

The Wii has potential, but you act as though it's met its potential it's far from meeting it.

I'll never understand your grudge against dual analog. It's not as intuitive as pointing, for sure, but it's a lot better than Wiifenders/PCholics make it out to be.

"Graphics don't mean shit."

Don't even get me STARTED there. I understand and agree with 'gameplay > graphics' but I'm tired of hearing 'graphics don't matter' as a response to any and every instance of Wii bashing. Graphics do matter, they are and they have almost always been a core element to the gaming experience. Perhaps not as important to some people as they are to others, and not as important as the gameplay itself, but to act as though they don't mean anything is stupid indeed.

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Posted: Jun 7th 2009 2:57PM blahblah55 said

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@Tom: ...were you counting on this game to change your mind? O_o

@Foe: I like Wii controls and all. But seriously, dual-analog works pretty well when you work on it. It's not as easy to get into as pointing/scrolling, but it doesn't mean it's highly inaccurate/uncomfortable/useless.

@DMC: It depends where he's coming from with "Graphics don't mean shit". If he were coming from the fact that incredible graphics doesn't make a shitty game any good - I'd agree. But if he were referring to the fact that "Graphics don't matter at all..."... I'd have to disagree, because the blurriness/choppiness of the first stages of BWii2 were just downright awful. It hurt my eyes (literally... I need glasses). Thankfully it eased up later, but still.
High graphics don't matter if referred to "all games". The graphics should matter to the game specifically.
Some games need style. Some games need realism. Others... just need more game before we can talk graphics.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:40PM Crimsic said

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Hmm, I'm sure you've been told this before, but Tmac, you're an ass...I have both a 360 and a Wii, fortunately, I'm not as ignorant as you and I notice both systems have their ups and downs. The 360 has pretty graphics, best online infrastructure, and some fairly good exclusives, the Wii on the otherhand has the best controls of this generation the BEST exclusives, and the Virtual Console.

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 6:11PM (Unverified) said

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It's saddening that every Wii post is derailed by trolls with nothing better to do than browse gaming sites posting snide, clichéd tripe. They go on about their amazing game libraries and flawless consoles, why don't they quiet down and go play them?

It's especially humorous seeing as they're the "mature" gamers...oh wait, nevermind, this generation they're "hardcore."
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 7:14PM (Unverified) said

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tmac seems to be on EVERY Wii post... why does he read the Wii news if he hates it? I wish there was some kind of permanent solution for people who are such massive trolls.
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 7:21PM (Unverified) said

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anyone with a ps3 AND a wii, feels sorry for the ignorant ones bashing on the wii.PC is the solution for people who only care about graphics
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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 9:00PM Da Largest said

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"the Wii on the otherhand has the best controls of this generation"

"the BEST exclusives"

As much as I agree with your sentiment, neither of those are really true. The Wii has a small handful of games that really show off what the controller can do (and a handful isn't enough to constitute declarations like 'best controls') and while it does have some really good exclusives, there are more exclusives on the other two systems that are at or above the level of quality most of the Wii's are at.
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Posted: Jun 6th 2009 12:16AM Crimsic said

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"the Wii on the otherhand has the best controls of this generation"

"the BEST exclusives"

As much as I agree with your sentiment, neither of those are really true. The Wii has a small handful of games that really show off what the controller can do (and a handful isn't enough to constitute declarations like 'best controls') and while it does have some really good exclusives, there are more exclusives on the other two systems that are at or above the level of quality most of the Wii's are at.

Really? That's your argument, you're the same guy who said AI levels don't change with diffuculty aren't you?

Anyways, I'm not talking about the GAME's controls, even though quite a few do them right, (LOZ, SMG, Medal Of Honor Heroes 2, No More Heroes, MP, Madworld) just to name a few. I'm talking about the controls...the Wii Remote has the most control out of all gaming consoles out there, anyone can see that, just as I can aknowledge that the 360 has the best online infrastructue.

And as for the exclusives bit, let's look at this,
Wii: Super Mario Galaxy, ExciteBots, LOZ, Metroid Prime, No More Heroes, Rabbids, The Conduit, Madworld.

360: Halo 3 (Overrated...only the custom games are fun) Gears 1/2 ,Left 4 Dead, Mass Effect,

I left a few games out on all consoles by the way, it's late, I'm sleepy.

PS3: Killzone, Resistance, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear
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Posted: Jun 6th 2009 2:50AM (Unverified) said

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listing Twilight Princess as a "good exclusive" is enough to invalidate your list entirely
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Posted: Jun 6th 2009 7:57AM (Unverified) said

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I won't argue with any of your other points but... the virtual console? The virtual console is ass. Nintendo must think we're stupid or something, must think that no one has heard of ZSNES or Kega, or PJ64 or anything else for that matter. ROM releases are staggered (Which is a joke concidering that they're all already available online, and people will just download them for NOTHING if they want to replay those games), there are no save states or button reconfiguration, or any other kind of configuration and most of all... THERE'S NO ADDED VALUE! Nothing extra is ever added to these games. No HD remixing, no extra levels, nothing that would ever make me want to buy from VC rather than just go get a ROM and play it on my PC.

The virtual console might be one of the most pointless additions to a console ever in it's current state. Perhaps if it'd been more like the iTunes store of ROMs where there was a large selection of ROMs legitametly available from day 1, and maybe if they'd licesned ports of decent emulators and added things to games here and there, it may have worked out. But as it is, the VC is ludicrous to anyone who's ever downloaded a real emulator.
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Posted: Jun 6th 2009 1:46PM Da Largest said

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"Really? That's your argument, you're the same guy who said AI levels don't change with diffuculty aren't you?"

No, I'm not. GG

And both systems, no, all three have plenty more exclusives than that, enough to make any of them worth owning. I never said the Wii wasn't worth owning, after all. What I'm seeing here, though, is you posting like three or four of the PS3/360's top exclusive games and acting like that's most of what there is. Nice to see you acknowledging there's more, though.

Keep in mind I own a Wii and those exclusives, plus many more.

And a PS3.

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Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:42PM DonsSword said

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This game looks great, even given the limited graphic capability of the Wii.

High Voltage has demonstrated with The Conduit that they know how to nurse a project through a long development life cycle, as long as they can maintain funding (probably the reason for Astro Boy). It is likely they will tweak this one to perfection, much the way Ubisoft does with the Assasin's Creed and Prince of Persia franchises, funding those efforts with the Imagine and Petz series.

Because it is a Wii title, they can take a bigger risk in the design and development of this game, something not possible with the PS3 and X360. The costs associated with developing for 1080p is killing innovation, and that is why developers are falling all over themselves to develop for Nintendo, and thankfully, Nintendo is ready to embrace them this time.

Companies like Konami are migrating franchises like Silent Hill to the Wii, because of the lower development costs, and higher install base. From an accounting perspective it makes sense, and that is what drives titles like Cursed Mountain and Ju-on onto the Wii, where more focus can be placed on gameplay, using existing development methodologies, then figuring out how to move pixels to High Def, and Nintendo recognizes this fact. Ultimately the challenge is for 3rd party publishers of hard core gaming titles to figure out how to make enough noise is a severally crowded market full of shovelware. Perhaps some serious reflection on how hits were marketed by Sony on the PS1 and PS2 may reveal the secrets of success for the current gen. I wish Sony would spend more time examining their past successes, instead of trying to make a broken iPod touch clone in the PSP GO that costs too much, and is devoid of the iPod/iPhone charm.

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 5:46PM Aquajolt said

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The seems like a pretty solid addition to Gladiator games that never really seemed to capitalize on the success of the Russel Crowe movie.

I've been itching for some solid early A.D. combat. Although I did enjoy Spartan: Total Warrior on PS2 by Sega

Posted: Jun 5th 2009 10:01PM Yothe said

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Uhhh? 300 was such a horrible movie, and knowing this game is inspired by 300 just makes me not want to buy this game..

Posted: Jun 6th 2009 2:25AM mocax said

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does it use wii motionplus?

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