Turn 10 on Forza 3: 'No game competes with us'

Can't wait for Forza 3

My ROFLstang GT goes WROOOOOOM!

"Gran Turismo really hasnt evolved much.

game basically starts you off with license tests
then you slowly build up your car collection

honestly nothing much has changed in GT1-4 other than the number of cars, tracks and graphics.

forza has been bring alot of innovations, customize paint jobs, car damage, drive lines, driving assists, car interiors

now they're adding video capture/editing, tire deformation, roll over physics, rewind functionality, and pretty robust online features for sharing content. (almost like what LBP did for platforms forza is doing with the racing genre)"

BULLSHIT YOU NOOB !!
forza brought nothing on the goddamn table !!!

*customize paint job and this tuning stuff has been brought in by Genki with its Shutokou Battle series on the dreamcast, then ps2 !
*driving line was brought in by sega with F355 challenge on dreamcast, then ps2
*driving assists are in since gran turismo and were also in f355
*car interior were already here thanks to Squaresoft's Driving Emotion Type S on the ps2

FORZA brought nothing, not even the GT-wannabe games trend since before Forza there were Sega's Sega GT Homologation special on the dreamcast and Konami's Enthusia on ps2.

the big japanese companies brought everything, Forza is just a dull ripeoff.

hopefully GT5 is coming on ps3 in christmas 2009 according to yamauchi kazunori's latest interviews in gamasutra and edge.

to me, gran turismo is a drivers game. forza is a more of a gamers game. GT has always given the best representation of how a car handles and teaches you how to control it as if it were a real car. forza holds your hand and guides you of how to drive but also distracts you from the act of driving with customizing the look of the car to the crashing. I respect what forza does in terms of what it puts on the table, but it's just not my cup of tea.

Let's not forget Forza innovations like the Drivatar system that provided really good AI for the other drivers, unlike the GT series where all the other drivers follow the racing line like they're on rails and woe betide you if you get in their way.

And Forza has by far the best online community of any console racer, largely because Forza has been online since day one and it has the sweetest car customization system out there.

Polyphony Digital really has a long way to go to catch Forza.

GT5P and eventually GT5 + Logitech G25 ftw. Honestly I've never felt more immersed in a racing game. With the clutch and everything working, it's beautiful.

Until MS lets me plug my beloved Logitech G25 wheel into my 360, I'll stick with Gran Turismo on the PS3.

This is unfortunate -- I'd love to be able to enjoy both good games with the same good equipment. I refuse to buy a second (poorer) wheel to properly enjoy Forza.

Ohh! Sharks vs. Jets! Get your snapping hands ready, motherfucker!

We don't even know if it will have complete damage for all vehicles. All we've seen was damage on the WRC rally car, and what looks like potential damage for NASCAR, and I'm still on the fence about whether or not I think they'll include it for the other vehicles. I really hope they just include it in some minor form so there is at least some form of realistic track racing available, but we'll see.

I do know one thing...The demo for Forza 3 will NOT be $40...CHUMPS!

Typical MS-Sony banter.

Let's wait and see what reality says

A petrolhead started a flame war, lol.

Let me get this straight. He wants tou outsell a game, that belongs in the best selling Racing franchise ever? (NFS) He believes that the Fanbase for Forza 3 is bigger than the whole Fanbase that NFS made all this years? Not to mention that NFS:Shift is a Multi-Plat.

I understand outselling GT5 because the PS3 sold way less units than the 360. But on the other hand, GT5P got Platinum ranking before it got released I can't imagine how many sales is GT5 going to have.

I am still looking forward to all 3 of this games and Split/Second.

What an arrogant twat. I'd give him some respect if he had an attitude like the inFamous devs when they were discussing Prototype, a similar game apparently. But he's not like that, he's not friendly at all. For that I want Gran Turismo to kick Forza's ass.

you know what's the difference between forza and gran turismo? gran turismo actually made a gamer turn into a racecar driver and finished 3rd. let's see if forza can do that as a "simulator". oh wait...

I do agree o n the fact Forza 3 does have more features than GT5...but seriously this is a lil over the top =_=''''

Everyone keeps bashing Dan. He is actually a really good guy, I worked with him on Project Gotham Racing (the first one). I have driven that 3000GT he bought, nice car... but it ate oil like crazy. He ended up getting a much better Audi... Anyways. He is just extremely passionate about car racing, including games based on it. He has actually done some racing of his own. If he says Forza 3 is in a league of its own, I tend to believe him. It was cool to see him during the press conference... Made me remember getting plastered to the back of the passenger seat in his audi after he bought it cruising down the road by our office building.

I like Grand Turismo and the Forza series I think there is a place for both of them. Who cares if one is better than the other... I would buy both of them anyways, so it does not really matter. If I want the GT experience I will buy GT... If I want the forza experience I will buy Forza... Like I said though, I like them both. So I will be getting both of them.

He's right to be talking smack. Forza 2 is the best racing game this gen. I expect Forza 3 to be even better. GT is a great series, I just wish they would add in everything Forza has with their GT graphics, but sadly they won't. It will likely be the same as all the other GTs.

My only complaint about Forza 2 was the lack of cockpit view and interesting tracks. The cars handled great. It seems that Forza 3 has addressed both these issues for me... big time!! This game looks beautiful. I'm sure GT5 will be a beautiful and polished game when it ships as well. I am not one who is in the habit of buying multiple systems. For me... I will only be buying games for my 360. But I'm happy that there are so many choices out there and franchises for anyone who loves cars. PS3 owners are going to get a great title with GT5 and now 360 owners will get the same type of love with Forza 3. Who cares which one is better based on ones PERSONAL preference. They both look fantastic and have a track record for great gameplay was well. It's an exciting time in gaming for everyone in the next coming year.

As for the number of cars.. I think people are really throwing a very thin argument out there. In GT we are use to unlocking different versions of the same car. In Forza, you may not unlock as many cars.. but the possibilities of designing and customizing a certain model and make of a car are endless. You don't need 800+ cars and even if a game boasts that many cars... how many of them are fun to drive anyways? So please.. quantity does not equal quality. Both games will be fun in their respective rights. Let's just enjoy them shall we.

I would hope that when the emperor's naked you don't want to "slap him around a little"

Forza 3 will never be in the same league as Gran Turismo 5. The only reason this guy can say this stuff and not have everyone laugh in his fast is F3 actually has a release date while GT5 doesn't. That'll change.

Wow Greenawalt, have some respect. Gran Turismo has been around longer and enjoyed more success than your series has. If it wasn't for them you wouldn't be in this industry because it wouldn't exist. Come on. Even if you're a Forza fan, you have to agree that he's just being arrogant and annoying at this point. One thing you could say about Kaz is that he never insults the competition. Oh, and he doesn't brag about his game being "the definitive racing game of THIS generation" or anything like that.

For the record, this is coming from a fan of both franchises.

Dan Greenwalt is Kanye West of gaming

I really hate it when people hype their own games by saying that their "the best". While Forza 3 might be a seriously top contender in racing games but there is still a lot of competition from games like Gran Turismo 5 and so it should be up to the gamers like us to decide which game we like best!

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I really have no problem with this guys arrogance. I kinda like it, instills a little confidence.
Sony wil have to actually finish their product to ever refute his allegations. And that seems unlikely for quite a while.
So until sony gets something done, forza will be the undisputed, whether it be by default or earned, forza will have some time on the top of the racing list.

Sony should of learned something from their ps3 launch, if you are last to the table you may only get left over scraps.

As far the fact that he suggests it will be better than all racing games, we all know this competition is really only between GT5 and forza.

@Scooter

" Forza 2's damage is not very good in my opinion... they simply swap textures and pieces of the model out, as opposed to deforming the actual model itself. It's nice that it's THERE, but really I've never considered it a selling point of the game... "

FALSE

Have you even played Forza 2?

The actual model can lose the front bumper and rear bumpers and the car will actually be shorter because of it. I'm not going into all of the other things, but the car does get crushed and a number of peices can fall off...and there are on the track for the remainder of the race. If anyone hits them, they go flying!

I have all of the GT's from 1-4 and GT:Prologue....

I have only Forza 2...but I've played my brothers copy of Forza 1 when it came out....

Forza 2 is by far the better game between it and GT:P.

GT:P may look good...but it has no substance...no damage...ONLINE SUCKS....there is not even a LOBBY SYSTEM.

That brings me to another point...Forza has REAL ONLINE functionality that the GT series sorely lacks. Hopefully GT: 5 will have it...but GT 1- 4 didn't.


GT
Can you trade/auction cars? No
Can you put custom paint jobs? No
Damage to cars model? No
Damage to cars parts? No
Physics running at 360 ticks per second? No
Tire deformation? No

The list goes on and on...

Don't get me wrong GT:P looks great...but that all it really has. BTW, the more of the above that you add to a game...the slower it will run and the graphics will have to be reduced.

Lol, the Gran Turismo Portable on the PSP has more content (cars, tracks) than Fozra 3 does on two discs!

The problem I have here is the attitude he have towards the Gran Turismo games and creator.
I think it's annoying to see that Microsoft this year is the only company that felt the need to attack the other 2 companies (Sony and Nintendo) in order to boast themselves. The other 2 didn't make a single direct attack at them or anything.

I think it's speaks of the little respect they really have for this industry.

As far a Forza 3 goes, the game isn't out. But if the first 2 or any indication, the level of realism is far from the one found in the GT series. It still includes some nice features, that are more or less significant in the gran scheme of things. But as far as realism goes (graphics and racing physics) Forza 2 didn't have anything over GT5P or even GT4.

In any case, it's still really annoying to see Microsoft and its studios having to rely on petty attacks to boast their arrogant confidence.

I think a little smack talk is good once in awhile. Keeps the competition on it's toes. Where is development on GT5? Why wasn't gameplay demonstrated like Forza 3? Is GT5 even coming out in the next year? Until the Polyphony Digital has more to add on the features and development of their title.. I agree.. I think Forza 3 will be the one to beat. At least it has a release date. Not to cut other racing titles coming to the market this holiday short... but all the features demonstrated and mentioned for Forza 3 make it the definitive package when you take gameplay elements and online support and features. We still have yet to have any description on what to expect from GT5.

Some of these companies need a good kick in the ass and to let it be known the competition is alive and well. I'm dying to know more about GT5. We all know the GT series is a quality series. I'm sure the fans are more than anticipating a release this year. Get the game finished already!

I think some of you are taking this way to literally. It's a competitive business. Competition drives better products. You think Turn 10 will stop here and not continue to improve upon each installment of Forza because they are convinced they have the definitive racer? You think many believe Polyphony Digital won't deliver a phenomenal racer? Gimme a break. He didn't say the GT series sucked. He said in so many words "You must keep evolving." It sounds like there may be car damage, weather effects, obviously better graphics in GT5. We still have to hear about online features.. but both titles definitely have a place.

And for the sake of arguing to the fanboys.. 400 customizable cars is more than enough. How many are you really going to drive.. are shitting me? You do realize that in Forza the addition of custom paint jobs and the auction house adds tremendous replay and value to your cars and is a game in itself if you are a designer and car lover. You really think over 800+ of a mixed bag of "pre-designed" cars is something to brag about? I don't think any Forza fan is jealous and it really does sound that without those features.. GT has yet to evolve.

So at 400 cars with options to buy new parts and an infinite amount of ways to paint..I have never heard such a ridiculous comment as "lol The PSP has more cars! MS should be embarrassed." Really.? Are the cars fully customizable with parts and paint? Is there damage and cockpit view in the PSP version? So what is your point? Again.. quantity isn't quality. Go troll elsewhere.

well, we've seen about 30 more seconds of GT5 footage. which means that they'll either A. Sell us another demo. or B. Release GT5 in time to compete with Forza 4