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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:51AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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WTF?!?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:35AM Wiizer said

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George Bush doesn't care about black people.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 12:12PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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dont start with the Kanye stuff....then someone is going to bring this up....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEbkCo5oZJ8
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 12:23PM SpacePenguinBot said

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I've been getting into a new show called Better off Ted on ABC. They recently had an episode where the R&D company they work for replaced all the motion sensors (for lights, doors, bathroom sinks, etc) with a cheaper technology. The only problem was it couldn't recognize any of the black scientists working there. The company tried to solve the problem by hiring minimum wage white people to follow the black scientists around. It gets even crazier from there, but this reminded me of it.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 12:25PM smcn said

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Ted: The system doesn't see black people?
Veronica: I know. Weird, huh?
Ted: That's more than weird, Veronica. That's basically, well... racist.
Veronica: The company's position is that it's actually the opposite of racist, because it's not targeting black people. It's just ignoring them. They insist the worst people can call it is "indifferent."
Ted: Well, they know it has to be fixed, right? Please... at least say they know that.
Veronica: Of course they do, and they're working on it. In the meantime they'd like everyone to celebrate the fact that it sees Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders, and Jews.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 7:06PM Buster Rod G said

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I'm a lot more concerned that motion-sensitive games won't be playable by people with physical disabilities. Traditional joystick controls will always be the most adaptable.

The facial recognition will probably work pretty badly regardless of race.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:51AM SATT said

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Anyone else worried about getting cancer from this thing?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:54AM JXCGunrunna said

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Yea but im more afraid i might get cooties from it... there are even roomers that it can create monsters under the beds of little children.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:59AM (Unverified) said

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I hear you, I definitely don't want to get radiation poisoning from a toy!
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:29AM redjack said

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You'll be fine. Planes fly overhead all the time bouncing infrared off of the ground and even freaking laser beams!

And while that sounded childish its completely true.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:45AM (Unverified) said

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Actually, Im more worried about it stealing my soul. They say cameras have a tendency to do that, you know.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:52AM redjack said

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Actually an anthropologist major I used to know did a stint in Africa and the tribes he spent time with weren't afraid of their souls being stolen. They think Americans are cannibals and we take their pictures to put into catalogs so we can choose a tasty morsel to eat and then kidnap them for said eating.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:57AM redjack said

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Anthropologist major? Anthropology major.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 12:19PM aristokrat said

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No, no. He studies anthropologists, a strange subset of H. sapiens that dresses frequently in tan multi-pocketed vests and bothers normal people on other continents about their day-to-day lives.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:22AM MarioGreat said

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"They think Americans are cannibals and we take their pictures to put into catalogs so we can choose a tasty morsel to eat and then kidnap them for said eating."

That's a rather strange belief.

You know, I may say something a bit controversial, but from my knowledge, tribes tends to be extremely isolated, and common tribal beliefs tend to stay for a long time. It may be possible that this is a belief stemming from the 1700-1800s when, you know, African slavery by Europeans/Americans were common.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:54AM (Unverified) said

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im bored with natal already, i dont want to flail about in front of my tv, MS what the shit are you doing?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:55AM vidguy said

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Same here. The only thing I could think of when they showed it on Jimmy Fallon was, "and they called Wii a gimmick!?"
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:05AM Rhamsey said

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i dont care about the wii like games either, but milo and other projects like that (if they work) will be really cool. and ill be looking forward to that.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:14AM samfish said

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"but milo and other projects like that (if they work) will be really cool. and ill be looking forward to that."

I don't see how Milo would possibly be a fun game. I don't like talking to NPCs n games already. Them trying to actually converse with me would be even worse.

...but just imagine if the porn industry starts making games for Natal!
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:38AM Dirty said

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I liked Milo the first time.... when it was called seaman.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:51AM (Unverified) said

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you mean Hey You, Pikachu! right Dirty?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 3:05PM Saria the Cat said

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@samfish: If you don't like talking to NPCs, you've obviously not played enough Baldur's Gate! :)

As for Project Natal, if it doesn't excite you, don't get all up in arms about it --- it's not like "hardcore games" are just going to go out the window any time soon. I'm remaining cautiously optimistic. Competition between companies is good for the consumer, especially if it drives them to innovate, which is what I'm hoping MS is doing.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:54AM vidguy said

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I think it's more about lighting than skin color. Obviously with any camera lighting is going to be an issue. Just as you need to play Wii a certain distance from the TV, you'll have to make sure the lighting is just right to play Natal.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:57AM Jae Brav said

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I'm glad someone knows so much about this such as yourself. I mean, I would think that with your hands-on time with it you would know right? Right? I would think that you tested the tech at different lighting conditions before you came to your statement as fact right? Right?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:05AM vidguy said

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Exactly. I mean, how do you know I'm not one of the Natal developers? Hmm? ;p
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:06AM samfish said

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Uhh...he's right, though. Lighting was/is an issue with the Eyetoy and any other camera based tech.
Nothing we know about Natal thus far suggests dim lighting or darkness won't be an issue for it, so it's a reasonable assumption to make.

But hey, who am I to stop your fanboyism from blinding you to such realities?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:09AM Vidikron said

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Hell, it doesn't even have to be just cameras. The Wii is susceptible to lighting problems, especially bright points of light like you might get coming through a window.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:10AM iamnotafish said

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Doesn't Natal use infra-red (as per the Joystiq article about it). So lighting shouldn't make a difference as it has an infrared emitter that detects movement, not lighting itself?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:11AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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didnt they say lighting doesnt affect the camera???
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:17AM (Unverified) said

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"Darkness everyone, darkness is spreading!"
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:24AM crunc said

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Microsoft has said quite a lot, and shown quite a bit less.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:34AM Mr Khan said

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As i said in another post, Wii was also extra-sensitive to lighting, even in the run up to launch (i think as late as September 06 this sort of thing was being reported), so these things can be resolved fairly late in the game, and this is fairly early
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 12:00PM Chibi Chaingun said

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"I thought Natal had to be used in bright light.

Wrong? The demos I played of Natal were set up in dimly-lit hotel rooms, except for Peter Molyneux's Milo demo which was set in a bright room. Tsunoda said lighting was a non-issue for Natal. Maybe so, maybe not. But if it works in a dim room, that's not bad."

http://kotaku.com/5279531/microsoft-project-natal-can-support-multiple-players-see-fingers
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 1:10PM User Formerly Known as Dave said

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I haven't heard a lot of concern that Sony's solution has to be used in the dark. Surprising considering the controller is a glowing ball of light.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:56AM (Unverified) said

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That sounds like an awesome case of trolling, props to the IGN user who set the interwebz ablaze!
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:57AM DBuckEye said

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Who cares about if all ethnicities can play? The real question is whether or not I can finally play video games with my dog (or if I can bust ROB out of the closet again).
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:06AM Cap Morgan said

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Your ROB is gay?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 1:19PM (Unverified) said

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is ROB ur boyfriend
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:58AM Burns11 said

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I think this might be right on the money, especially seeing as how much of the demos were seemingly faked.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:58AM crunc said

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Everything in the room, even the carpet, is white, not counting the people. There are some simple xbox logos on the side walls, but the back wall is completely undecorated and solid white. Am I the only one who has noticed that? The Eye Toy had major problems when the environment wasn't set up just so and you have to wonder if Natal doesn't have the same problems.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 10:59AM copa said

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"Wow, clearly no one black worked on Project Natal."
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 1:32PM (Unverified) said

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@giNger

racist
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:01AM MarkezJM said

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Certainly the clip from the Fallon show didn't seem fake at all. Unless you'd suggest that everybody that played is in on an elaborate farce to make it look like it works?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:02AM samfish said

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Damnit. I was really hoping N'Gai would manage stir all the latent racists (mostly from XBL!) out of their holes again with bit of news. In that sense, I'm sad this story is untrue. I found it greatly amusing reading as the broader gaming community basically humiliated itself with so much vitriol.

C'est la vie.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:05AM Vidikron said

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This is OT, but did you pick up a WM+ yet?
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:08AM samfish said

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No, not yet. I'd like to, but my company is in a very...fragile position. I lost my job on Thursday last week, but got it back Tuesday when they re-opened. At this point, I'm not spending any money on games until I know my financial situation is secure!

I really want to play Tiger Woods, though.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:12AM (Unverified) said

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Sorry about the job situation samfish...hope it gets better.

I'm about to get WiiMotion Plus 2mor I think. Try it out with Tiger Woods this weekend. Should be fun!
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:12AM Vidikron said

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That sucks. My company is pretty tight too since we're in manufacturing. I was asking because the connector that plugs into the Wiimote is loose. It wobbles around and can even be pushed in. I picked it up yesterday, but haven't tried to use it yet. I wanted to see if the connector was supposed to be that way.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:20AM crunc said

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Which connector are you referring to? The connector on the M+ or on your remote? Note that the back of the M+ has a lock switch. You need to connect it and then lock it. Try that and see if it is then solid. Mine certainly doesn't move around - it's connected tightly, at least with the lock switch engaged.

Tiger Woods 10 with MotionPlus is fantastic, but I am a bit disappointed that they didn't give disc golf equal treatment. The disc golf is the part I like best, but all you can do is pick a course and play it. It's a lot of fun, but you can't play a tournament or play online in disc golf mode, nor can you unlock any courses by playing disc golf. Still, the M+ works really well and the game is very fun. I'll probably get into the regular golf, but I just wish they'd done more with disc golf. Maybe in '11? Or maybe they should just make a dedicated disc golf game. That would rock.
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Posted: Jun 11th 2009 11:27AM Vidikron said

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Mine locked into place just fine due to those two plastic hooks, but I'm talkng about the actual metal data port on the WM+ that plugs into the Wiimote. Mine wobbles around when the WM+ is not attached to anything.
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