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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:23PM Sly C said

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"opens up a lot of conjecture and misinformation"

the psp go leak was spot-on, since it was a leak from sony itself, and the last guardian leak barely told us anything. hell, the official reveal barely told us anything...
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:23PM (Unverified) said

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God knows it must be hard to police people without respect for their employer.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:24PM FredFredrickson said

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I still can't believe they're releasing this thing at $250. The high price tag was one of the biggest reasons why the original PSP took so long to catch on.
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Posted: Jun 17th 2009 4:41AM (Unverified) said

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If you were to buy a 16GB memory stick with a PSP-3000, it comes out to be almost $250 (but the memory is internal). Add in the bluetooth support (bluetooth isn't very cheap) and that raises the praise. Lastly, the main reason for a higher price is retailers. Retailers only make $5-$15 on gaming hardware. How do you think a retailer is going to feel selling a PSP Go, only making a very small profit margin, then people who buy it won't be buying any retail games for it (which make retailers more money)? A retailer isn't going to be happy, so there has to be a higher markup so the retailer can early more profit (most electronics are marked up a bit so a retailer can make a profit).
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:25PM nukee said

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That's great and all. But if they wanted it to be a surprise at E3, why the hell did they post that Qore episode that detailed the system and future PSP games before E3?
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Posted: Jun 13th 2009 3:49AM MrHashbrown said

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It was possible that it was a mistake. But it's more likely that somebody down at the PSN servers decided to push the 'release' button just a tad early.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:26PM (Unverified) said

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Honestly, you need to expect leaks in a still relatively-small industry where people are passionate about releases.

If Sony was smart, they'd not go all lock-down mode but instead anticipate these leaks and resultantly build leaks into their marketing models. It's cheap advertising for upcoming games and can even be given a positive slant.

Look at it on the bright side too- your consumers wouldn't talk about it or try to spread it if they didn't care.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:26PM aroGADGET said

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kuri, you nailed it. The industry is too small, and everyone seems to talk to each other, and let things loose too easily.

Hell, N'Gai Croal and other guests on Gametrailers 'Bonus Round' show, a few months back already, were off-handling mentioning a new portable "Go" platform from Sony.

I'm glad that the industry seems to be "working together" for the benefit of improving their offerings, but be a little more tight-lipped when talking to outsiders.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:31PM Jacksons said

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It's got to be annoying. Then again, this industry lets info out about their products way too far in advance as it is. Apparently there's this game called Final Fantasy 13, anyone hear about that one?! What? At E3 2006? Oh...
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:34PM T Crespo said

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i kinda agree with Tretton on this one. it has to be completely frustrating knowing you have these huge surprises set and some clerk at a best buy leaks photos of something on to the net to up his e-penis a bit. the PSP-go leak is a shame just because the company did that to themselves.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:38PM C1ph3rDivyne said

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Well for whatever it's worth, I agree with Mr. Tretton, especially considering that I'm sure Sony employees sign some kind of confidentiality agreement in their contracts. That's really pathetic and I also agree that it does take a lot of "oomph" out of a company's surprises.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:45PM (Unverified) said

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-boo-hoo-hoo Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-boo-hoo-hoo boo-hoo-boo-hoo-boo-hoo Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-boo-hoo-hoo
"Did someone call for a PMS?"
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:06PM Kodros said

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Never knew you could call a PMS.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:19PM Pure Black World Tendency said

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I think he was trying to say "Did someone about a PMS?", just in a slightly retarded way.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:46PM aroGADGET said

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I'd go as far as to say that the PS3 Slim was completely legit, but Sony decided not to give credence to yet another leak, after hearing all the erks and emms about the new design, odd font logo, and loosing total element of surprise. (The PSP Go leak was too official, and too close to E3, to pull the plug on a showing.)

I'm willing to bet that we will see it finally become official later this year, but slightly modified, in an effort to debunk the first leak, and help stir up some needed new buzz.

Looking back on it, if all this was true, and nothing had been leaked out, Sony would have had one hell of an E3 showing (they still did have a solid showing on the software side of things)
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:51PM Sly C said

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i'm pretty sure that picture of the ps3 slim is fake. i'm not saying the slim itself is fake, because i believe in it, but that slim looked remarkably like a certain chinese knockoff...
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:47PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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Yea so that PSP Go! leak is their own fault as far as I'm concerned....I know they wanted to keep Qore Live and Fresh but maybe they should have held off on that for a few weeks until AFTER E3 was done...smh
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:10PM (Unverified) said

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I'm sure Sony's actions weren't intentional. I'm also sure somebody got yelled at and hopefully nobody got fired.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:52PM rigmutton said

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Oh, it's as simple as that? Gosh, what a shame Sony didn't think of that *eyeroll*
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Posted: Jun 14th 2009 10:50AM MarioGreat said

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Maybe it really is as simple as that. For an example, I think I can cite Nintendo.

Nintendo is one of the most secretive companies around and it seems like they do an amazing job at it. Remember their E3? The rather anti-Wii E3 bingo card from Joystiq for Nintendo was a complete loss because Nintendo announced so many things nobody expected. I, for one, was surprised almost the entire time.

They are also one of the biggest, if not the biggest right now, gaming companies in the industry, and they make many games people want to hear about, so it's not as if nobody wants to leak their material. If someone had found out about Metroid: Other M pre-E3, I'm sure it would have been all over the net in a milisecond.

Maybe it's the way Sony is structured (a conglomerate) vs that of Nintendo (a pure gaming company), but it seems obvious to me that Sony could do a better job of keeping their plans a secret.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:53PM juggalotusmx said

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you surprised us right there with the overprice, no one saw that one coming or wait maybe we all did....
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:54PM (Unverified) said

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I thought the Ico leak was a bigger let-down, simply because it would have been awesome to be surprised by the first view of one of the most anticipated games on the ps3.
And in any case, Sony probably needs to make a bigger splash about what they have. Modnationracers, a big Rockstar exclusive, GT + MGS on the PSP and FF14 were all big news. For instance, a non-Kojima non-exclusive MGS side story on the 360 was given a lot of prominence, but not the fact that Gran Turismo as well as a proper MGS, directed by Kojima himself, would be on the PSP (surely enough reason to choose it over the DS for many gamers?)
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:54PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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While Jack Tretton is technically right, I have to side with Joystiq on this one. Leaks are pretty much part of the business. Everyone has to deal with leaks. From Movie studios to video game companies, it happens.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 6:54PM Jechtshot78 said

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Could david hinkle act more callous and unprofessional in this article?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:06PM chdude3 said

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Article? It's a blog post. For all the credence I give to Hinkle, he could have told Tretton to suck his left nut for all I care. And further, Tretton could oblige and I still wouldn't care.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:06PM Pure Black World Tendency said

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So you're telling me David Hinkle isn't a 14-year old guest blogger? ;)
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:26PM Dave Hinkle said

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Oh man, wait until you guys find out what bodily function it rhymes with ...

... crap.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2009 3:14AM Brett from Atlanta said

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More like....."Dave Stinkle", am I right? haha jk, love Dave and his work here.

Although I agree with Dave that Sony should have prepared themselves for leaks, I think that the Ico leak was pretty shitty. Instead of being excited about the trailer, I was looking for the difference between the leak and said trailer. Had it not leaked, I'm pretty sure I would have had to change my pants after watching their press conference. Rumors from inside sources are fine, but full blown trailer leaks like that really zap the energy from what would have been a huge reveal.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2009 8:42PM GRT said

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Yeah, I read this news on a lot of blogs, but only Hinkle turned it into an attack. Joystiq must be hurting for traffic and urging its bloggers to be more 'edgy'. Just makes them look unprofessional to me.

A lot of people I know agree with Tretton -- not just Sony leaks, but leaks in general. They talk about how much more exciting E3 press conferences used to be when there were lots of great surprises. Now we have "bingo cards" of leaks to check off. It's a shame in some ways.

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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:01PM (Unverified) said

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Joystiq is becoming increasingly "sensationalist". This Waaambulance you speak of is justified and other sites just noted it as "someone something said" and nothing else.

This like this do change the course of things and even some jobs, please Joystiq, stop doing this kind of thing. I realize this is news for 15 to 25 year old, but you don't have to act as immature to the point of slander.



And this is not the only case of it I've seen. ( I know you don't care, but I wish you did)
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:11PM Sly C said

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hey, it's a blog. they're entitled to their opinions.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:14PM MystileArmor said

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Whatever, David is completely right.

MS had a leak... that project Natal camera has been circulating the web for forever, but people were still surprised when MS showed it off. Everyone was expecting the motion sensing camera, yet when MS showed it, people had no idea that it worked the way it does.
Leaks happen, it's part of the business. Something leaked that wasn't all that awesome, is what happened, and Tretton is looking for a scapegoat for all the lukewarm responses.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:56PM blueskyv201 said

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I agree with you. The title really pissed me off.
Seeing the financial trouble Sony is going through, another unsuccessful release is the last thing they need right now. Tretton has every right to be upset.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:46PM chispito said

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If the PSP Go tanks, it's not because people saw it before Sony announced it.

If it tanks, it will be because Sony figured out a way to raise the price over the previous model by $80, in a recession economy, without offering any compelling new functionality.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2009 4:04AM MrHashbrown said

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@Sly: Usually I'd agree that because it's a blog they are entitled to their own opinions. But in this case, he was reporting a story and the presence of a few or any opinionated views is annoying.

I understand that Joystiq does do a lot of opinionated work and tries to incorporate that into their stories so they can be more entertaining for their readers. But in a few cases (like this one) it just comes off as....awkward.

Plus, Joystiq is actually my primary source for gaming news. I don't go to sites like 1UP, GameSpot, IGN, GamePro, or others anymore. I view Joystiq as a proper video game journalism blog. I appreciate all of the opinionated work they do, and yes I understand when there is some thrown in to get a few laughs, but the "waah-mbulance"? Pushing it a bit, in my opinion.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:30PM (Unverified) said

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Sly:
As am I. It's not so much that I don't understand that, is just that I wish it didn't happened.


I think is important to go as far as as taking information for what it is and realizing that you cannot know everything though speculation. Opinions seem to be formed from half truths nowadays...and I guess that's what bothering me, more than this post that it isn't actually that big of a deal.

I do apologize for going as far as calling it "slander".


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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:39PM Sly C said

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never said you weren't entitled to your opinion :)
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 7:45PM BananaBoat said

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The Last Guardian leak was the most egregious in my opinion. Not only was it a leak, but it was a leak of an inferior, year old trailer that was never supposed to be fit for public consumption in the first place. The E3 trailer completely trounced that year old trailer, but unfortunately, the lack of surprise seems to have taken the wind out of TLG's sails for right now (I've been watching E3 wrap ups, and you'd be surprised at the lack of mention the game is getting, even among people I know loved the previous two Team Ico games).

The PSP Go leak was just funny, mostly because Qore got leaked the day before, so Veronica Belmont actually got to make the PSP Go announcement.

Hopefully neither leak will hurt sales, but they really do need to get a lid on the situation.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 8:00PM Ipitythefool said

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Here's where I get frustrated. Everyone expects the E3 press conferences to have megaton announcements. Then a week before something gets leaked and all the bloggers complain "I saw this a week ago, this is ridiculous!". Yeah, of course you saw it a week ago, it was leaked. It's like a movie comes out but a week before you download the ending and watch it. Then when it comes out you're pissed they didn't change the ending.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:08PM Ipitythefool said

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I don't have time to watch full movies. I'm a very important man and am busy replying to message boards and what not.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 8:07PM (Unverified) said

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How can a company survive if its product announcements leak early? There's no way anyone can sell products based on just quality and value proposition—it's just not possible.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 8:26PM Ethan said

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Time doesn't turn gold into shit, Jack. At least, not a week. When you don't get to surprise maybe you could still have wowed.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 8:29PM (Unverified) said

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The game sites publish this stuff because it gets clicks. More clicks, more money.

I work in the film industry, read countless scripts of high profile flicks before they are made and been on lots of sets ( Inglorious Bastards, Terminator Salvation, etc) and most people in this industry understand that confidentiality is a must. Hundreds if not thousands of people work on films, yet you dont see every catering person, background extra, grip, electric, sound person, blah blah blogging about what they saw today. People understand that certain things need to be kept secret, it just goes without saying in the biz. There are always some tools out there that will ruin surprises for everyone.

Readers and journalist have no one to blame but themselves if they are not surprised because in the end, its you that are scouring the innanets looking for every morsel of info you can find.

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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 8:31PM PooPooKaKaBumBum said

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So the head of a corporation gets angry about leaks before a major trade show, and has it defined as "whining"?

This story is indeed the pinnacle of responsible journalistic integrity you are known for.

Stay classy, Joystiq.

/sarcasm.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2009 4:13AM MrHashbrown said

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Couldn't have said it any better myself.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:13PM (Unverified) said

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I love how the contributors of this blog post the most asinine things for the sake of posting them.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:54PM astrocrack said

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They just post for the pearls that show up in the comments.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:52PM (Unverified) said

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Well if he doesn't like leaks he can do two things: 1) build an underground bunker with heavy surveillance and security. Kind of like Phantom Works or Skunk Works. Or 2) make al employees sign an NDA.

The bottom line is that he's pissed at Sony's lackluster performance at E3.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2009 3:19AM Brett from Atlanta said

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Well now, aren't you dumb...just sayin'
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Posted: Jun 13th 2009 3:47AM MrHashbrown said

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It is easy to call him a whiner about this. But I fully agree with Tretton. If I were planning a full-on relaunch of a product line that has slowly fallen from grace at the largest industry expo of the year and some douchebags leaked it, I think I would flip out.

In the kind of position Sony is in right now, it NEEDS to have big surprises for the public so they can get some of the spotlight. When they are being constantly sabotaged, that is difficult to do and it destroys their marketing plans.

So Tretton is right here. Will these people ever shut up?
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