Kim: Microsoft treating Natal launch like a new console

I may not get a response to this since im on the second page but whatever that's fne... anyway what i was going to say is that if microsoft can figure out how to fit project natal into the better games like halo 3 and gears of war 2 (and 3 eventually) i think that this can be a really good idea... if not im gonna agree with the previous responses and say that flailing your arms at fake dodgeballs is retarded.

but the paint features seems cool

Oh I get it. So Natal is going to have inferior designs and a 60% hardware failure rate.

Seriously stop reporting this crap like its some dramatic new step in gaming technology when anyone with half a shred of common sense can see its an overhyped eyetoy

I guess it's official: The 360 is too underpowered to handle this "project Natal" on its own.

This is not good. extra hardware add-ons never work (we've yet to see how Nintendo's motion plus will do).

For all intents and purposes, this is the equivalent of the 32X to the sega genesis.

Don't fret Tmac...Sony will never forget the CORE gamer.

I absofrackginglootly LOVE this quote from Kaz. One of the many reasons as to why I am a Sony fanboy.

"We have always started with the core audience and then expanded. A console always needs a solid core of games that appeal to gamers. Look at God of War. We launched that in the seventh year of the Playstation 2 and a lot of people wondered why we did. It's because we always wanted to keep the support of the core gaming audience.

That's not to say we're not doing anything to expand the demographics. Singstar and Buzz are obvious examples. But we need to do this in a controlled way. If you go mainstream too quickly and don't support the core gaming audience then you lack the pillar to support your platform. Without this pillar you end up with a fickle audience that might be big but will probably move on."

Here is the link to the interview.

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/696463/Sony-CEO-Kaz-Hirai-Says-Core-Gamers-Should-Be-Served-Before-The-Mainstream.html#ixzz0IEXoO3QZ&D

Also Tmac, Sony's motion controller will be used FIRST for core games and second for the casual stuff. Because it will be the only motion controller with REAL 1to1 control, core games will not be hampered by them.

Also, Jack Trentton said that BC with all PS3 games is a REAL possibility.

Sigh! just forget i ever mentioned it.This is why i never like to comment on Joystiq. I always get blindsided by a bunch of Xbox 360 loving a-holes who wouldn't listen to what i have to say and can only call me names . I don't really care that much if Microsoft fails or not. I have a PS3. I of course will root for the PS3 motion controls. I was just making a comment and voicing my opinion. If the Natal fails which I do believe it will, life will go on. It won't be a blow to the industry, it won't be a blow to gamers, it won't be a blow to innovation. The only ones who will get kicked in the nuts is Microsoft. You can just pick up your controllers again and play your games the same way you always do.
Sony and Nintendo over the years has delivered games that have changed the face of gaming for centuries to come while Microsoft just sits there riding on their coat tails taking credit for things that were done before. So don't preach to me about innovation because Microsoft has none. And don't bother replying to this because I really don't want to hear it.

@tiamat5
Thats the way tiamat5. Voice your opinion but care not if someone disagree. Say your piece but not be receptive to a difference of opinion. In other words, do exactly what you just preached about and thus look like a complete hypocrite in the process. If you do not want a difference of opinion then I suggest you not give your opinion. I guess you are one of those people who only want to hear from people that agree with you instead of actually learning anything.

This is sounding more and more like Sega's 32X which failed miserably. It's the same system but they'll have games just for Natal. I'm sceptical but excited at the same time.

"And don't bother replying to this because I really don't want to hear it. "

Sony sucks, but don't reply to this because I don't want to hear it. (and yes I'm being sarcastic)

All 3 companies have brought innovation to the table. Sega brought something to the table. If you're endlessly going on about how the competetion sucks at everything.... you are a fanboi.

From the urban dictionary:

fanbois typically spend most of their free time telling anyone who will listen how perfect thier console of choice is, and how inferior all other products are. fanbois will not stop annoying other people until everyone they know is converted to their way of thinking.
neutral observer: "Console X looks to have a strong line up this year, but console Y still has the momentum from last year"
fanboi: "NO STFU CONSOLE Z IS THE BEST EVER. UR ALL IDIOTS, GO WASTE MORE MONEY ON YOUR SHIT CONSOLE X AND Y LOL"

I'm not going to read through 100+ flaming posts, but...does this remind anyone else of the 32X? Has that been mentioned yet? The thing will be out in over a year at the earliest, and it's ALREADY being referred to as "stepping stone" technology. Well if it's just a "stepping stone" and the real thing is right around the corner, the fuck would I buy it? 360 will be on its last legs; Nintendo/Sony will already have something better on the way...Natal is already irrelevant.

Project Natal will live and die by it's software line up just like any device. Yes MS will try to promote the coolness factor/ hype as much as they can because it would be stupid not to. All the Bla bla bla about how Natal will fail or you will not get it based on a certain price means nothing until we see the software.

Everyone has their price and if you can justify paying 250 for the PSP -GO then I am sure you can justify playing 250 for Natal, if it has the killer app game you want to play is developed

No one truly knows if Natal will bring something extra special to the way we play games today because most people that are commenting have no imagination.

We continue to read the same tired negative about Natal based on what people know about the PSP Eye. The PSP Eye did not gain any traction because of the software and it's own limitations. Just because someone came out with something first does not mean they came out with the best.

I am really looking forward to games created by very creative people. Personally I am glad a lot of you are not in game development because I am sure your games would suck. You continue to say how tired the FPS and other genres are. You complain about innovation and people taking risk. You cry that games design has not risen but then when something that can actually totally change the way you play existing games, you only look for the negatives. You find that you can only see as far as the narrow experience you have with the games you play today. This is why most new innovative games do not catch on when they are first released because people can barely get away from what they are use to doing.

Launched a like a console and outlandishly priced as one as well I am going to assume.

This idea is like when SEGA add-on to the genesis the SEGA CD the 32X history may repeat again and developers may leave MS and 3rd party stop making games and it's hard to progam it for NATAL then MS could fail

i would be to, being that its ms last hope, 360 already maxed out 8]

Could be awesome, could suck ass, Ill wait till we have a launch date before making a hardcore opinion.

If Natal is indeed a stepping stone technology, which it may very well be, it is still a smart move because if people see it, try it and like it then they may be more disposed to buying the next Xbox (with a warranty :p ).

There's obviously a huge amount of people who like a more interactive experience as seen by the outrageous success of the Wii and from what I've seen in its' early form it works pretty well.

Aside from the inexcusable quality issues MS had put out a pretty kick ass platform and really is the PS2 of this gen (which had its' own inexcusable quality issues I might add) - I think with both Sony and MS in the motion control game we'll see some pretty cool stuff as they try to out-do each other. And if that kind of control isn't for everyone then so be it, traditional control isn't going anywhere.

Funny how you mentioned Elijah Wood. I met him down at Zero Hour, Microsoft's big event in California for the launch of the 360. He was in our VIP area and wouldn't even talk to us. His posse told us he was busy (playing Peter Jackson's King Kong.) Later when he wanted to play a game that we were playing, his posse asked us if he could play next, so we turned around and said "We're busy."

Hmm, I could see some interesting concepts, tons of sports games sure, but I honestly can't think of a real hardcore game that could use this...
surprise me MS.

"...if Natal really is being launched like the Xbox 360 hardware, Elijah Wood will reveal the name during an infomercial on MTV"

Oh BURN. That one singed my eyebrows. Well played, Mr. Fletcher. Well played.

I can't wait for the day when I get Natal, a 6 pack of Mountain Dew, and the female version of Milo. The cashier will give me the most horrified look ever and, when I open the games case, Chris Henson will pop out and tell me to have a seat...

Damn you, NBC...

That silhouette on screen reminds me of the lion-like monster in Another World.

Well that is all and good Lord Toastington but if you don't root for your own system then what was the point of your investment? What is the point rooting for another system to do well. I have no personal vendetta against the other systems or any personal crusade for Sony but the worse the other systems do the better my system will look. Why should I root for Microsoft or Nintendo to succeed? If their games and hardware do well its not like I will be playing or using them.

Project natal looks good on paper and on simulated demos with actors. However, I don't think it will be near what it promised in real-life, based on the current consumer-grade technology.

Besides, it's Microsoft, everybody knows to wait until the first/second revision is out. It's been true with any of their software, and even the 360. =) I'll just wait for Project natal reloaded.

So I guess this means the "Natal" will also Red Ring.

Everyone really need to stop with the Microsoft bashing over Natal, (and it's supposed copying of the Wii), because the facts speak volumes, and the fact is Nintendo and Sony copied Microsoft in all this, (not the other way around), so get a clue.

If you guys did a little research you would quickly discover that the big heads at Nintendo never revolutionized shit; now who are the true copiers !!

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/awilson/wand/default.htm

http://www.igniq.com/2005/11/microsofts-prototype-xwand.html

I have been saying this, ever since the Wii hit the market, and every time someone decides to try and say how revolutionary the Wii is, (and now Sony decided to jump on the bandwagon); what a joke !!

They are ducktaping a 360, Wii Remote, and EyeToy camera together.

very sad comments.

I'm an older gamer and I've own hardware from all of the big 3 during my time.

My 360 died (of course) and I was bitter, and since moved on to a pleasent life on the PS3.

None of these systems are perfect.

If 'natal' ends up as a POS then sobeit, wait and see... it's better than stagnation an taking no risks (for any company).. even if they are playing catch up with the wii.

And I for one would welcome some Wii-like control but with graphics on my HDTV that don't make me puke (i.e min 720p), also of importance is the fact that my previous 'favourite' company (Nintendo) have lost the plot entirely when it comes to making games for the *GAMERS* who put them where they are...

All those casual players and fitness freak moms are buying wii and then.. leaving it to gather dust. The DS is full of shovelware (with some great games too I admit - I've owned 4 DS's over time and 4 GBA/Sps before that).

Nintendo are missing the point with GAMES. MS and Sony still understand what great games for 'normal' gameplayers can be but are lacking the gimmicks that Nintendo have to jump into that lucrative 'I know nothing about games but this wii console will make me fit' market.

In other words all 3 companies are flawed, we all know this, they all have strengths too and this 'copying' from each other is a GOOD thing for gamers not bad so why do so many people see it as negative? That can only be about fanboyism.

The copying is in effect 3 great brains working together to make each console the best it can be and should be welcomed. This gen has been a bit of a mess for me personally... very transitionary. NEXT GEN is where all the kinks will have been sorted out and projects like the above are all part of that development process.

Sure a lot of ideas crash and burn but I'm sure as shit glad these people try things out or we'd all still be playing Atari VCS.