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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:19AM StormEagle said

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Awesomeness Acquired.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:19AM FallenArms3 said

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Da da da-da DA da da-da DA da da-da daaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:28AM (Unverified) said

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Awesomeness indeed.

"He also told GameSpot that he's beginning to hear feedback from other companies, hoping to work with Nintendo in the same way Team Ninja is on Other M."


Um yes. Who wouldn't want to.

They say 3rd party games don't sell on Wii? If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em and co-develop their key franchises! What developer hasn't dreamed of being a part of a franchise they all grew up playing?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:36AM Levi said

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Awesomeness indeed. I've been waiting for a more traditional Metroid in 3D since N64, and pretty much given up hope after the Prime series.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 12:22PM Cheezeman3000 said

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@DeoWolf:

Here's the solfege (iirc):

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Posted: Jun 13th 2009 1:14PM bm111 said

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Well I just hope that "more traditional" doesn't just mean "side view", and actually means they're turning back to a more complex and involved game world, as opposed to MP3 and MP Hunters which were both kind of Metroid Lite.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:21AM Dummy00001 said

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Can Nintendo do anything else but platformers?

It seems like WiiSports/etc are rather exceptions on their roadmap.

What about the rest of populace (and new gamers) who had no happy (S)NES childhood?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:30AM SoulBlade said

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i dont consider zelda a platformer...
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:55AM (Unverified) said

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metroids not a platformer. Technically the only platformer nintendo has is mario.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:20AM FallenArms3 said

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"What about the rest of populace (and new gamers) who had no happy (S)NES childhood?"

Welcome to your happy childhood.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 2:04PM capnwalrus said

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I don't have a happy S/NES childhood, and I love all of these classic games. Oh, and Metroid is definitely a platformer. That's what it's called.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:31AM Levi said

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"Metroid is not a platformer"

Yes it is!! Metroid, Metroid 2, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Zeto Mission... All platformers. That's a big reason I didn't like Prime - the switch to first person watered the platforming down so much compared to the traditional games.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:40AM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo excels at platformers. They always have. And nowadays, it's a lost art. There are few companies that can actually craft a decent 3D platformers. I hope Nintendo keeps it up.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 12:58PM SoCoolCurt said

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hell i think we need more platformers. my favorite genre. it's tough surviving on one Ratchet & Clank and one Mario game every other year. wasn't crazy about LBP either which was disappointing to me.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 1:04PM Roto13 said

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"Can Nintendo do anything else but platformers?"

You mean besides adventure games, strategy games, SRPGs, standard RPGs, puzzle games, sports games, racing games, fighting games, and shooters? No, they have a pretty limited scope. >_>
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 4:07PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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"Can Nintendo do anything else but platformers?"

Why would you want them too. As mentioned before, Nintendo excels at platformers and to be honest I'd rather play another platformer than another FPS or another sports title.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:23AM Thief said

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I don't trust Reggie's stupid fat head.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 1:36PM Innagadadavida said

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Careful what you say about the Regginator. I heard he enjoys kicking ass. He's also in the business of taking names, so don't expose your real one.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 1:37PM Thief said

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Oh, I know well that he reads the blogs. He told the whole world!
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:25AM (Unverified) said

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I think that other companies working with Nintendo in the way that Team Ninja is, is an awesome strategy. Can you imagine how cool it would be if Bethesda helped develop the new Zelda? Or if Capcom did a 3rd person Kid Icarus?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:37AM SuiXide said

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"It's just Oblivion with Link using guns."
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:11AM PedoJokerBear said

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ponita horse armor!
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:26AM rowd149 said

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Squeenidos-developed Pokemon, anyone?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 4:53PM lobotomies4free said

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we saw capcom do the Zelda games on GBA. ick!
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 12:01PM zerokku said

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@ rowd149

Belts and Zippers with my pokemon?

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9650/zettaslow.gif

??
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 1:17PM rowd149 said

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You know you want it. ;3 So, would Higashizawa be a Machamp or a Snorlax?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:26AM (Unverified) said

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Nothing changes with Nintendo except for the hardware being used. It`s been a seemingly perpetual cycle of Mario, Zelda, Metroid and for the last twenty years.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:29AM (Unverified) said

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And what an amazing 20 years it has been. Just wish DK figured more into that equation than he does. DKWii would be awesome, even more so than DK64, but DKC still owns my heart. Prime showed early on that there was great potential for this system, it's a shame its greatness hasn't been repeated too often.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:31AM StormEagle said

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Yeah, and then when none of their flagship titles makes an appearance for say 5 years, everyone starts asking "Where's the new Zelda?" or "When's the next 3D Mario coming out?". These games are what makes Nintendo, Nintendo. And they're the only reason I bought the console to begin with, definitely not to waggle my hands all about and certainly not for the exercise.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:31AM SoulBlade said

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franchise milking is where its at, especially if they sell. expect more halo, gta, gears, etc. i hope you btich about those too down the road
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:37AM (Unverified) said

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@SoulBlade

See you in twenty years.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:37AM (Unverified) said

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You can make that case for any system. Everybody pumps out the sequels and most companies don't take as much time with that as Nintendo does. For example there are, I think, 7 Ratchet and Clank games (not counting the PSP ones) and only 8 Mario games (not counting the sports games, I'm talking pure core Mario story stuff here). And Mario has had a ten year start! I don't think sequels are a bad thing, and I'm not maligning the R&C series but Nintendo is far from the only company guilty of that.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:39AM (Unverified) said

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@WREturns

Yes you can. I did not single out Nintendo. I was stating an obvious fact, that is all.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:41AM Credge said

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@Soulblade

Nobody complains about good sequels or franchises that are milked that are actually very, good.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:43AM Haggard said

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It's not that they make too many sequels to franchises, it's that they keep on using the same ones.

Next generation Nintendo console. You'll never guess what's coming! Zelda! Mario! Mario Kart! Metroid! Super Smash Brothers!

Suprised?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:48AM (Unverified) said

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The Baron,
Yeah but you can't say the same for everybody else?

Next generation Microsoft console, you'll never believe what's coming! New Halo, Gears, Burnout, Fable! Surprised?

Next generation Sony console, you'll never believe what's coming! New GTA, Final Fantasy, God of War, Ratchet and Clank! Surprised?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:56AM Vidikron said

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The question is whether or not we'll see Master Chief Tennis and Ratches & Clank Soccer.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 9:58AM (Unverified) said

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there's really nothing wrong with sequels as long as the newest one always pushes the limits and there's enough time inbetween installments. Each new mario is a better game than the last. As long as they put enough thought into it and don't try to flood the market with software just to make a quick buck on the franchise name (ala RB, GH, Tomb Raider...) Classic franchise installations will always be a day one purchase.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:01AM (Unverified) said

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@WREturns
Except that besides God of War and Halo, none of the franchises you mentioned are exclusive titles from first party developers for those consoles, and none of them besides Final Fantasy (which has had releases on virtually every major platform since the NES) are more than two console generations old. The Nintendo stable have seen iterations spanning five console generations. I don't think a meaningful equivalency can be drawn, simply because no one else has been around as long as them. :P
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:06AM Manhammer said

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Metroid has hardly been milked, keep in mind this series was dead for 8 years.

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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:11AM (Unverified) said

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The real difference is, while the other companies will release another Ratchet and another Halo, there will be new IPs to go along with it. Look at all the new ones Sony's had this gen, and then Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears and Alan Wake on 360.

What big new core IP did Nintendo come up with this gen? I honestly can't think of one.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:17AM (Unverified) said

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No, you guys are right about that, but I'm okay with Nintendo using those franchises to tell new stories every gen. I wish they would come up with more stuff, who wouldn't want that?, but I'm okay with getting my other stuff on the PS3 or 360 and using the Wii to satisfy my Nintendo cravings.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:22AM Vidikron said

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I'm personally fine with core franchise sequels, I just get a bit fatigued with Nintendo's IPs because they put them in so many damn games. Mario playing soccer, Mario playing tennis, Mario doing the Olympics, etc...

Knowing Nintendo the "Other M" in this Metroid is game is probably Mario.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:26AM FallenArms3 said

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It's a shame that Nintendo's new ideas (Project HAMMER, Disaster) were scrapped and never released in the US respectively. I mean, they've tried to make new IPs, but I suppose when things like Zelda and Mario are already so popular, they take the forefront. Personally I'm glad they like Metroid. Metroid has always seemed to be the franchise on the backburner (except for Donkey Kong, he's not even on the stove anymore it seems :( )
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:26AM (Unverified) said

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@Vidikron

The "m" could also stand for menopause.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 10:47AM redjack said

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"Except that besides God of War and Halo, none of the franchises you mentioned are exclusive titles from first party developers for those consoles, and none of them besides Final Fantasy (which has had releases on virtually every major platform since the NES) are more than two console generations old. The Nintendo stable have seen iterations spanning five console generations. I don't think a meaningful equivalency can be drawn, simply because no one else has been around as long as them. :P"

How could they be more than two generations old if the Xbox has only been on the scene for two generations and the Playstation for three? I mean, you're right, but it isn't a solid argument.

"The real difference is, while the other companies will release another Ratchet and another Halo, there will be new IPs to go along with it. Look at all the new ones Sony's had this gen, and then Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears and Alan Wake on 360."

I don't think I'd include Bioshock on there as a 1st party IP.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:24AM (Unverified) said

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@Tmac:
If your going to compare IP's, shouldn't you compare titles that are console exclusives? Everything you listed was also released for Windows, in some cases before it was released on the 360.

With the exception of Halo none of those were made by MS, and even Halo was made by Bungie (yes I know MS bought them - sellouts). So how can you compare that with Nintendo?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:44AM redjack said

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"Nothing changes with Nintendo except for the hardware being used. It`s been a seemingly perpetual cycle of Mario, Zelda, Metroid and for the last twenty years."

Then they bring back Punch Out!! too. So predictible. And intend to make another Pikmin? Who played those anyways? And even revived the Excite series. Boring. Continued Battalion Wars and Fire Emblem. Niche games at best. And then there's those Japan/Europe exclusives like Disaster and Fatal Frame. Don't even count because they're not over here.

All those cretins do is make the same three damned games over and over and offshoot the crap out of them. You're right.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:52AM xxxsam said

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@TMac: Big IPs Nintendo came up with this generation: Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

You probably didn't like any of those, and they're not top of my list either - but they are hella big, certainly bigger than the new games/franchises launched by any other console developer this generation, probably even put together...

Then again I can't actually think of that many 'big IPs' from Microsoft or Sony - most of the best games on those platforms are third-party. Not a criticism of the platforms, obviously!

As for the new Metroid, yeah, it looks like fun and I guess I'll probably get it, but now that I think about it a bit more, it doesn't seem particularly earth-shattering. Actually, since it's moving back a bit more toward pure action, potentially a bit less interesting than the Metroid Prime series IM (personal) O...

And it would certainly be nice if third-parties developed more 'big IPs' for Wii, which presumably is the type of thing this post is about. Nintendo really needs more big and top-quality third-party games on the platform - there's a bunch coming out in the nearish future now, but I still don't think it's enough.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2009 11:53AM (Unverified) said

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"How could they be more than two generations old if the Xbox has only been on the scene for two generations and the Playstation for three? I mean, you're right, but it isn't a solid argument."

That was my whole point - besides Final Fantasy, all of those IPs are quite young and we haven't yet seen them being consistently revived on new generation after new generation, just the latest two at most. It's not a value judgment, it's just that because no ones been around as long as Nintendo and has kept such core, exclusive franchises going on their platforms, the comparison WREturns was making to franchises on other platforms didn't seem that valid.
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