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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:12PM Akrid said

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I dislike this trend of forming massive mega companies. Curse you, capatilization!
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:38PM copa said

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I don't know what choice id had. What exactly has been their source of revenue for the last half decade? Back sales of Doom 3?

When the current console generation started, id was better positioned than any other company to own the engine space. They had all of the resources and experience to build a development toolset that could compete with, even crush, Unreal Engine.

What happened? Four years after the launch of the XBox 360, and not a peep from these guys. Why did they hand this market over to Epic?

Well, the consequences of farting around for a few years is that they now take orders from a new boss. Hope they can pull themselves together...
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:49PM (Unverified) said

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Geez, enough with the cursing...what do you have against uppercase letters, anyway?
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:13PM Ellianth said

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why? the employees from the companies always leave and form their own studios where awesome stuff gets put out.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:36PM WiredKnight said

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Yes, god forbid we give AAA studios more money so they can make their games even better.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 3:55PM Ghen said

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Just think about it. Rage already looks freaking awesome graphically... Just imagine that now with Fallout 3 money backing it.
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Posted: Jun 25th 2009 2:37PM (Unverified) said

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"Curse you, capatilization!"

What, they changed the name to ID Software? Curse them!
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:08PM (Unverified) said

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And now all that is left on the mainstream independent PC developer front is Valve. Don't go changin' id :(

I at least hope this means id will never, EVER, again outsource development to Ravenvision.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:28PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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We still have Crytek and Epic Games...oh wait, they both release more tech than games.

Damnit id!!

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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:58PM RKN said

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More bad news for PC gaming? : (
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 4:41PM smakus said

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They've already changed! Look at Carmack's statement. Ever seen more bullshit bingo buzzwords in an official statement?

"This will extend our synergy all franchises leveraging our capabilities enabling forward looking research bigger stronger best talent landmark games ever."

GMAFB.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 7:10PM AoE said

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You all are talking like ZeniMax/Bethesda are a huge evil company like EA. Do I really need to remind you all that Bethesda is an old-school, primarily PC developer whose been around since the mid 80's? Need I remind you that ZeniMax was created/spun out of Bethesda in the mid-90's?

You all are acting like ZeniMax is a monolithic evil corporation and Bethesda is just some souless cog in a massive machine. I regret to inform you all, but this is not the case. Bethesda is arguably just as independent as Valve, the fact that their parent company now owns 2 studios instead of 1 doesn't make them into the great evil you all seem to be predicting.
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Posted: Jun 25th 2009 6:09AM Genaldar said

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Maybe I'm alone in this AoE, but I don't think of EA as a evil company...any more. Yeah, they milk franchises, but every does that. Activision on the other hand strikes me as the new incarnation of what to hate in gaming.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:11PM (Unverified) said

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"With Carmack and idTech now owned by ZeniMax, future Bethesda titles are sure to benefit." The Elder Scrolls V on idTech5, anyone?

Wow, very unexpected news. Next to Valve Software, id have always been one of the premiere independent games studios out there. Hopefully this acquisition won't lead to anything along the lines of dictating their development routine.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 7:50PM ECVOICE said

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Total surprise, but not an unwelcome one. Considering Bethesda's recent track record and id's tech proficiency, I can only pine even more for the next Elder Scrolls.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:13PM Tephlon said

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Holy freaking hell. This caught me way off guard. I've been trying to process it for 10 minutes and I'm still not sure what to do with it.

I guess it's not TOTALLY out of no where, if you consider that SplashDamage (a dev very close id with excellent relationship) is working with Bethesda on Brink.

Sounds like the 3 devs could move forward with a very healthy (and exciting!) relationship.

I love id games and the technical aspects they bring to the gaming industry, I love WolfET and think it's one of the best online team multiplayer games ever, and the Morrowind games and Fallout 3 have all been top notch, so all the devs are quite good and could probably pump out some wonderful games together.

I just hope the business side of things stay straight and no one gets screwed in the end.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:01PM F1shBone said

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Thats a great point about splash damage. Id has been struggling to get a team together for Doom 4. Maybe they will be better able to draw talent in this position.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 2:48PM JXCGunrunna said

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by marrowind games we will all assume you actually mean elder scroll games
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 4:50PM Tephlon said

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Lol. Yeah, Elder Scrolls.

Brain fart there.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:14PM Faceless Troll said

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"Far from Bethesday's strong suit" is a bit of an understatement. They don't seem to know how to properly animate something as simple as 3rd person PCs walking, as anyone who played FO3 or Elder Scrolls games knows. :)
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:16PM Lennoko said

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That looks like an engine problem, more so then an Animation problem.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:35PM (Unverified) said

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I can haz dynamic lighting and shadows plz?
kthxbai
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:40PM WiredKnight said

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@lennoko

Mmmmmmmno. Game engines don't really affect animation like that, unless you're using them for animation blending and behavior (like with euphoria or havok, which Bethesda doesn't do), but you still need good animation data to start with.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 2:58PM JXCGunrunna said

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I actually agree with it being the engine. Their games seem to have the character model be stationary and let the world render around it in such a way that in third person it looks so bad.
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Posted: Jun 26th 2009 1:04AM greatslack said

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I seem to remember everyone's PCs straining to handle both Elder Scrolls 3 and 4 when they came out.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:14PM einhanderkiller said

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I don't think I like this.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:15PM NaeemTHM said

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OH SHIT! Carmack+Bethesda=Gaming Bliss

Does this mean I'll get a Doom RPG with the Fallout 3 engine!

I'm so excited for the next game these two great companies produce.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:10PM evilspoons said

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LOL

I think you've got that backwards. Doom storyline with Bethedesa tech? RAWESOME!
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 3:00PM JXCGunrunna said

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you mean Bethesda RPG elements with id engine and shooting
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:16PM Rollins said

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Over 80% of computer gaming's creepy-looking faces are now under one roof! Excellent.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:41PM WiredKnight said

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At least id's faces are meant to be creepy...
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:16PM R Planteer said

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Wow. Did not see this coming. To be honest though, I dont see it being that big of a deal. ID was big back in the day, but its been awhile since they did anything remarkable. The newer Quake games were fun, but nothing special. The same applies for Doom 3.

Still, having new talent and brainpower for the next Elder Scrolls game is a good thing.

(if anyone from bethesda is reading this, seriously, ES:V needs to be less oblivion, more morrowwind)
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:27PM Petebot330 said

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ES:V needs the environment of Morrowind (in detail and originality, not the same location), the journal and map of Oblivion, and the character and mission variety of Fallout 3. Their games have grown by leaps and bounds every time. I just started my 3rd playthrough of Fallout 3, and I am just as obsessed as I was the first time.

As far as the leveling system, that’s up for debate. I think that the Elder scrolls levelling system is a bit of a mess and they need to address that.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:58PM (Unverified) said

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@ Petebot

Oblivion had way more mission variety than Fallout. Mage, Fighter, and Thieve's guilds made for a huge variety of quests. And there was nothing as cool as the Dark Brotherhood in Fallout 3. Not even close.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:17PM (Unverified) said

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Finally the next Fallout and Elder Scrolls can have better animations. Love this move, and hopefully Rage benefits from it too.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:19PM (Unverified) said

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Holy shit out of the blue.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:22PM Zertoss said

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I can't wait to see id grow a superego out of this.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:51PM Rick James said

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I see what you did there--very nice +1
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:23PM (Unverified) said

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Talk about dropping a bombshell!
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:46PM baby sea tuna said

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Or perhaps...a Megaton?






Sorry, been playing too much Fallout 3 lately.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:25PM (Unverified) said

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I wonder if this will translate into better Bethesda support for the PS3. Carmack is an outspoken supporter of the PS3. Maybe he will push for better support of it.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:30PM (Unverified) said

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Reply fail, that was meant for sprinkles.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:29PM (Unverified) said

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In this case the bad economy is good for us. This combination is going to produce probably the best games western development can offer.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:37PM Kattleox said

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"By the nine divines! You must be the grand champion of the Quake Arena!"
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:13PM (Unverified) said

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YESSS!!! Now we need a John Freeman game.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 1:16PM (Unverified) said

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Sorry, should have elaborated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHxyZaZlaOs

Horrible fanfiction is so amazing.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 2:35PM Havok said

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And then John was a zombie.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:38PM (Unverified) said

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If they were gonna get bought, at least a good publisher bought them. I'd hate to see what Activision would do... A Doom game every year that requires a $50 flashlight controller?
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:41PM Zertoss said

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Tony Hawk's Doom Hero, where you shred your guitar-skateboard through pitch black hallways while pushing the correct colored buttons on your guitarboard controller to kill the demons that you can't even see.

It'll be the first game you can play with your TV turned off.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2009 12:56PM (Unverified) said

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I'd actually buy that... Unless EA announced Dead Skate Band.
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