Pachter: WiiHD still coming, Xbox in third by 2015

"Moving on to Microsoft, Pachter believes the company will end this generation in third"

I like this Patcher guy!

Yeah. I don't even consider the Wii in the same category as the PS3 or Xbox 360. And it's pretty clear who has won between the latter two. This guy is retarded.

they actually pay this guy..he be pulling shit out of his ass

Didn't he predict the PS3 being the top-seller overall? Good luck with that...

The PS3 is the bestselling bluray player EVER!!! And a great video game console!!!

But, he did predict continuosly that the PS3 was going to take over from the xbox360, and never mentioned the Wii turning out to be the winner until it was fairly obvious for even my grandma...

my predictions:

wii hd is indeed nintendos evolution to a family oriented system.

it will take a year and a half for a majority of gamers and console owners to fully embrace microsofts great attempt for social networking. its definitely going to work, but the majority of people arnt gonna buy it for a home computer. yet.

bluray players are already WAY cheaper than a ps3 so getting one for a disc player is retarded. their shares will go down. developers are not going to have enough money and time to turn a profit on making a better looking game than xbox when xbox is making more money in return than a ps3 title. ps3 will not get better unless:
1price goes down, 2user interface gets better, 3and better PR.


natal is a fun new controller than people will buy seperatel
ps3 motion controllers are gonna have to be packed in some game to sell
wii will be collecting dust as people find out it aint all that.


what do you think???

ps3 graphics will be as good as xbox 720 graphics in november 2012 when microsofts new system comes out.

nah... Wii already won... maybe the new xbox will shake the world but as it currently stands, nintendo has no competition.

@ fffunfarm06,

yes, that would be true if Microsoft keep the exact same specs as the current 360.

but somehow, i don't see that happening, do you?

add more RAM, newer/better GPU, & more powerful processor, and you will easily outperform the PS3, Fact.

what will be interesting is when both Sony & Microsoft will release their next consoles & what the final specs will be.

- Pachter is really bad at his job imo - he barely gets any of his predictions right.
i find it hard to take anything he says seriously.

@ fffunfarm06

WTF @ no 2. have both the 360 and ps3 and compared to the XBM the NXE is complete rubbish. I am starting to get used to it but its nowhere as easy to use and the xbm

I can still remebers when the 360 came out and everone reckoned the games looked nearly the same as normal xbox games, so it actually takes a while for any differences to show between new consoles and old consoles because of the actuall software development to catch up.

Does it really matter what he mentions. If it happens, it happens (and I hope it does), and if it dosent, it dosent.

It just seems like if I were to construct any sort of prediction in which the PS3 catches up, it would have to come down in price significantly, and quickly.

The longer it lags, the more luster lost.

what's it matter? his predictions rarely come to fruition anyway.

Well I thinks he's right because right now the only reason the PS3 is third is because of the U.S. market, and lets face it a TON of people are waiting for the $100 price drop. When that occurs you bet there will be plenty of people in line to buy the PS3 to play its exclusives and/or for an awesome Blu Ray player. If the 3.0 rumors are true your looking at something similar to live only free, user upgradeable HD's and free online will surely hit right. I love the 360, but in all honesty I think is brighter days are behind it and Natal is not enough to jump start buying trends all over again.

roger, what TON of people are waiting for a price drop? People aren’t sitting around any longer for a PS3 price drop. The 360 out sells the PS3 in all markets except for Japan, however, the PS3 is closing gaps. But personally, I think it’s too late and in the end, they may be about the same in total sales. There is market room for all 3 systems. And the “brighter” days you speak of are still here. You aren’t basing that on anything because pulling it out of your butt. I can just as easily say the PS3 has never had a bright day nor it ever will because to me it hasn’t nor ever will. I'm sure one day I will buy one but not any time soon.

Fudzilla is reporting that the Pro bundle will be phased out (hence the sales), leaving only the Arcade and Elite
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14437/1/

@ Brian:
in Europe the ps3 out sells the 360 by a LONG shot not only in japan

I think you're confused; Michael Pachter =/= Jack Thompson

I love my PS3, but this guy (Pachter) is so full of it.

These consoles wont even be on sale in 2015, the whole next generation will be out in 2011. The 360 will end this generation in second. The fact that developers are still struggling with the PS3, and releasing sub-par releases on it aren't helping, either. (Ghostbusters anyone?)

Blu-Ray players can be bought for $150 now, the PS3 isn't a viable platform any longer since it doesn't do the HD audio over bitstream, so all the videophiles are getting separate players anyways. When you spend a lot of money on a receiver, you don't want the PS3 to do the decoding, you want your receiver to do it. And yes, there is a big difference in audio quality this way.

I've had a better track record and it's not even my job. All he's really doing is telling people what he things they want to hear and trying to stir up a fuss so that people will pay attention to him. When it doesnt happen that way, he'll just come up with excuses as to why it didnt.

Yea, the only time he ever gets anything right is when the thing he is predicting has been leaked all over the internet or when its just plain common sense.

@ Bobs, U U D D L R L R B A SELECT START, roger, etc......

Do you guys not realize that Sony dropping the price of the PS3 isn't going to really make a difference, (at this point), because as soon as Sony finally drops the price of the PS3, (which they really should of done already), Microsoft, (as reported and expected), will drop the price of the Xbox 360, so really the PS3 price drop is a moot point.

Also the next generation is only about 2 years off, (at most), so even if Sony comes close to catching up, (which probably isn't going to happen at this rate), it will already be 2 little 2 late because no one will really care about this generation at that point.

Oh and if Sony really is going to try and keep to their 10 year plan, (ya right), it won't even matter because ya they might of caught up, but then they'll be a generation behind.

There's really no way Sony can turn this around, (at this point), because they have simply waited to long to mount a charge, so what they need to do is just pick themselves up, dust themselves off, learn from their mistakes, and start concentrating on the PS4, (while still fully supporting the PS3).

ummmm a 360 Price drop isnt going to entice too many people as MS is hitting its saturation point.....but Sony is STILL a good ways off, especially with it being a BD player as well. Its an ASSLOAD of people just waiting to get a PS3 when the price drops, most of which already own a 360. Hell I've got 15 friends that have said they will get a PS3 as SOON as the price drops and another 4-5 that will get one when God of War 3 comes out

@ Chris D.(PSN: Aggie_CEO | XBL:The Aggie CEO | Steam: Aggie_CEO,

Are you kidding me ??

There is no way the Xbox 360 has even come close to hitting your so called, "saturation point" !!

The Wii alone has an installed base of 50 million +, (and growing), never mind the fact that the PS2 has an installed base of well over 120 Million +, so to say the Xbox 360 has saturated it's market is ridiculous.

Hell even Nintendo's President, (Mr Satoru Iwata), said during Nintendo's E3 09 confrence that there is roughly 149 million potential, "maybe", gamers, (and that's not counting the over 295 million current gamers), still out there that are thinking about getting into gaming; that's a truly huge untapped market.

Actually if we were to believe your, "so called theory", I guess Microsoft should just stop marketing the Xbox 360 and wait until their ready to release their next system, (since according to you they have already, "saturated", their market).

So again for you to say that the Xbox 360 has saturated it's market is uderly rediculous, and really sounds a lot like Sony fanboyism.

As to your friends that you mentioned, if the 15 were truly serious, and really wanted a PS3 that bad, they could easily sell their 360's and buy a PS3, so obviously they aren't that serious about getting a PS3.

Now as to the other 4 or 5 friends that you mentioned, what are they going to do once they buy a PS3 and beat God of War 3, (since you said that's the # 1 reason why their going to buy it)?? I suspect that these 4 or 5 friends again are truly not serious about getting a PS3 because if their not happy enough with the PS3's catalog now, to make a purchase, their really not going to have much to play once they beat GOW 3.

@Paranoid

You're as good an analyst as Michael Pachter. WTH do you know about consumerism or Aggie's 15 friends and the their future purchases. If they do or do not buy a PS3 what the hell does it matter, don't try to analyze every scenario as if you know their lives or purchasing preferences.

Everyone is bitching about PS3 price drop like there is no chance in hell they save an extra $100-$200 to buy one over another console. It's gone on too long that I wish they would do it just so that everyone would just STFU.

I am happy with my 2 PS3's and 360. It's not that expensive, I have 2 PS3's and all you broke asses need to stop complaining becuase you obviously don't make much less than I do.

I will not buy a Wii becuase I already work a minimum of 8 hours a day and don't need that shit.

@ ryking19,

1st of all I wasn't analyzing shit, I was making light of the classic, "Sony fanboy woulda, coulda, shoulda, you just wait, phenomenon.

Like I said if they truly wanted to purchase a PS3 there are many ways they could go about doing so, but just like a lot of other, "fence sitters", they have a lot of doubts and that's what's preventing their purchase.

Quote:
"Everyone is bitching about PS3 price drop like there is no chance in hell they save an extra $100-$200 to buy one over another console. It's gone on too long that I wish they would do it just so that everyone would just STFU".

"I am happy with my 2 PS3's and 360. It's not that expensive, I have 2 PS3's and all you broke asses need to stop complaining because you obviously don't make much less than I do".


You just reiterated my point, so how could you possibly have any issue with my statements !!

There is currently a 8 million unit gap between sales of Xbox and PS3. As the Xbox came out a year earlier I think it would be realistically possible for PS3 to catch up.

I've stated a few posts above but that gap is really because of the U.S. market and that should pickup drastically with the price drop.

Because he's getting paid?

But most games designed for HD look really bad in standard, you can't even read the text in some of them.

Instead the wii is designed for standard, so it looks better on it (in HD it looks weird, grainy).

Tell that to Banjo and Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, they had to patch it so that SD TVs could read what was on screen

I just recently got an HD TV and I think the Wii looks great on it. Granted, the only game I've played extensively on the new TV is Mario Galaxy (I've been switching the Wii back and forth between the new one and a smaller, SD TV in my bedroom), but I imagine most games of decent graphics should still at least be presentable. If the only games that look too grainy are the shovelware that looks bad even in SD, then you could robably argue that it's more the developer's fault than the system.

Either way, I'd rather have them look grainy than be illegible. ;)

@Matias, @Ashkental

I have an HDTV now, but for at least a year and a half my 360 was hooked up to an SDTV. The only game I had a problem with origianlly was Dead Rising, which I could still read, just not on my sofa. I had to sit on the floor like a little kid watching TV. Then I figured out that after the mission first scrolls across the screen, you can look in the menu where you could read it in larger text.

Since then, there have been a only a few games that actually gave me problems (Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, and then after I bought my HDTV, Catan had horribly small text. I wanted to pluck the developers in the back of their head or give them nooggies to share my annoyance with them. Most games, though, are just fine.

To be fair, his predictions have a 50% accuracy rate, a high benchmark for his kind.

Good call