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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:34PM Typicalgamer said

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i've been hearing about Patcher's B.S. a lot today...
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:35PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, shut up about Patcher.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:46PM PARANOID365 said

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For fuck sakes, isn't 1 story about this fucking douche bag enough !!

I swear the next story I hear about this fucking asshat better be a story on how he was hit and crushed by the biggest fucking object possible, or at least his face needs to be mauled by a pack of hyenas or something, (that way he won't be able to talk anymore) !!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:16PM Cheesus Crust said

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You're too Paranoid man...
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 11:33PM samfish said

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Man oh man, who baked a big brown steamer in your apple pie today?
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 9:55AM (Unverified) said

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Seriously, they need to make a separate Pachter website for the 2 people who care. 3 if you count his mom.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:35PM Marius said

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That pictures looks like there is a 360 inside the PS3

*Throws acid at eyes
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:50PM (Unverified) said

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Awesome Engrish
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:02PM The Wicker Man said

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It is ENGLISH.You big dummy.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:17PM manyquestions said

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"A Well-thought-out Englilsh Paper by Kyle 'The Yellow Dart' Smith".
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:17PM Cheesus Crust said

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Its SARCASM. You big dummy
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:25PM Marius said

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WTF is this
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 11:34PM samfish said

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THIS...IS...





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Nah I'm not doin' it.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:39PM Lekko said

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Right, since these "HD" consoles only work on HDTVs. They see no benefit in SD over a PS2 or Xbox.

Ugh /sarcasm
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:37PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, I totally want that unreadable text. And the ps2 is way better than the entire current-gen.
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Posted: Jul 2nd 2009 12:00AM Tyba said

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I can only think of three people I know who don't have HDTV's... and two of them aren't the kind of people who would buy a gaming console and the one who does enjoy gaming owns a PS3 despite his non HD television. I'm curious as to what HD adoption rates look like by region, say Southeast compared to Northeast compared to Midwest.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:39PM spin cycle said

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What slow adoption rate of HD displays? The adoption rate is over 25% or something like that right now. Basically, of the people who actively buy new stuff (like consoles, games, etc.), perhaps as much as 50% of them have HD displays now.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:12PM mbarriault said

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"slow" is obviously a relative term. He likely means that adoption rate has been slow compared to what was expected/hoped. Remember that US & Canada were planning to have completely abandoned any support for non-HD TVs this year, but consumers disagreed since, outside the (niche market) Blu-ray, having HD isn't a requirement for anything that can use it.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:14PM Rajko said

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I cant think of anyone I know that does not have a HDTV...
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:17PM spin cycle said

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The US & Canada never planned to drop support for non-HDTVs.

I think you mean drop support for non-digital TVs. Which was done 16 days ago.

Canada has digital TV now, but hasn't dropped analog yet.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:44PM Dance Mofo said

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why joystiq do you guys keep posting b.s. from this company this guy? Let him/them go until they prove themselves of credible info.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:46PM Red Son Rising said

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agreed.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:54PM Dance Mofo said

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i just can't remember one thing pachter said that was actually true. i think joystiq only post things about pachter when there isnt any real news out there
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 10:12AM guttertalk said

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"The Wii is the exception not the rule"

What rule? The made-up rule that the 360 and PS3 should be selling better than the Wii? Seriously, this repeated claim makes no sense. There is no rule. There are facts. Remember the "rule" that the first console to 10 million wins that generation's sales race? We should because Microsoft pushed it frequently as they neared that magic number.

If there's any "rule" it's that the technologically advanced console doesn't always sell the best (if ever). The PS2 sold better though it had weaker specs. The PS3 has the best specs yet is in last place. The DS is technologically inferior to the PSP yet is the runaway handheld. Although the 4th generation consoles were comparable, the SNES was arguably less powerful than the Genesis.

And to that "rule," the Wii is hardly an exception.

I've never owned a Nintendo console until the DS and the Wii. I had my sights set on the PS3, not just because of the PS2 but because I knew that the PS3's parallel processing meant great things. But I ended up with a 360 and then the Wii. Even for myself, things didn't turn out as planned. The same is true of this generation.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:45PM Mr Khan said

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It was the great misunderstanding of the significance of HDTV at the beginning of the generation which made all the analysts look like idiots in hindsight (what with their "Wii distant 3rd/irrelevant" predictions)

This generation proved that the advent of High Definition was insignificant to the course of the game industry. The future of high definition is going to have minimal impact on the future of the industry

Far, far different factors will drive the push for new consoles. In Nintendo's case, they'll move when they've drained the well of software creativity dry (they said it themselves), Microsoft is going to want to re-synch their console strategy with their PC strategy (i mean, 360 is based on Direct X9, is it not? Direct X 11 and Windows 7 come soon. Microsoft is going to want to keep everything on the same page). If Microsoft's serious about Natal, they'll also want to replace their console to help reposition themselves in the consumer's mind.

Sony might put more stock in high definition, but i don't really have any inkling about what they want in their console strategy.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:09PM Red Son Rising said

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HD is not irrelevant or insignificant, its a welcome and necessary upgrade that distinguishes this generation from the last console cycle. the wii is the exception to the rule not the standard.

the wii is last gen tech with a creative control scheme thats brought a new segment to the gaming market. theres no reason to replace the 360 or the ps3 because everything the wii does can be done on both systems with some creative additions.

if anything, the wii (and ps2) prove that old tech is still relevant. i hate predictions but i do agree with this one in principle. i hope this console generation lasts for at least another 5 years, maybe another 10.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:30PM manyquestions said

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HD is significant, but I don't know how much it really has to do with the games industry, at least right now. While it may be one of the more noticable differences between some consoles and their predecessors, I wouldn't go so far as to say it's solely or even primarilly what distinguishes this generation from the last (since generations are rarely defined by hardware, but rather by software that took unique advantage of that hardware). A visual improvement, in my view anyway, cannot alone justify the introduction of a new console, no matter how much of an improvement it is.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:43PM guttertalk said

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@RedSon:

I think there's a big difference between HD being a touted feature of the "next gen" consoles and HD determining consumer purchases. HD clearly did not have the impact many initially thought, partly because it came with a higher price tag. The PS3 was too expensive, and, though dropping in price, HDTVs are still not getting adopted at the pace expected.

We bought an HDTV 5 years ago, and sadly the 360 is the only HD video we watch. We still haven't bought into Blu-Ray, and, to save money, we ditched cable and hardly watch network TV. And when we watch videos, we watch streaming video via Netflix and Hulu as often as not. Ease of access is more important to us than HD.

Quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if access is more important than HD for many.

When it comes to games, though, HD is just not nearly as transformative as some think it is. IMO, games are no more immersive than they were with the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox, and immersion is really the only thing HD brings to gaming.

Processing power, services, access, price, and controls are more important than HD.
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 12:10AM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I don't know that Nintendo being on their last leg and catching lighting in a bottle with cost cutting measures means HD isn't relevant to this generation of gaming. Let's not act as if this generation is anywhere close to over and is sure to have many different directions. The Wii is the exception not the rule and even then a large number of Wii consumers are begging for HD visuals on par with the PS360.
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 3:21AM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo was very clever -- the aesthetic of games like Wii Sports -- though not HD -- is crisp and very modern and so in a way parries HD
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:48PM (Unverified) said

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WiiHD will release right before MarioGalaxy2 releases, sony later this year will release the ps3 slim with a 100 or 50 dollar price drop, and last but not least xboxpro will be dropped and replaced with a price cut elite and later on replaced witha xbox360 slim bundled with natal. Yeah i say this gen we are in might last longer than another generations.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:53PM Look At This Suit said

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How about instead of devoting different articles to it, why not just have a weekly feature called "The Hot Air That Came Out of Michael Pachter's Mouth This Week"?
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:08PM manyquestions said

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In all seriousness a "PachterWatch" might not be a bad idea if the recent article trend is a sign of things to come.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:14PM Look At This Suit said

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If Joystiq feels the need to continually post about what this jerk says, then yeah, go for it. What I'm really saying is that there's really no reason to post about what this guy thinks. It's not as if Iwata said "WiiHD is a definite". Pachter is just another jerk with an opinion. The only difference is that for some reason, a lot of people care about his opinion.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:38PM (Unverified) said

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unironically support this
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 4:56AM (Unverified) said

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Pachterwatch. I feel dirty now.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:59PM Sponge said

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If it goes on and on, but new games will start requiring WiiHD, or Natal, or some other new "optional" outside upgrade, won't it just be a new generation?
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 9:59PM chispito said

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I assume he's not going so far as to suggest that these consoles will outlast the original Gameboy?
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:02PM Ryuk said

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What did I say about this guy on the last post??? patcher.joystiq.com do it! lol so many patcher posts...my mind is gooing to explode from his amazing analysis'!!!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:04PM The Wicker Man said

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My god he drank his gypsy seer juice this morning! Lonely Pachter wants hugz.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:07PM Negativecool said

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"expect lots of SKUs."





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I don't get it...
Is this supposed to be a prediction or a summation of the status quo?
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 8:46AM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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AMAZING!!!! How do you know these things?!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:10PM Blkant said

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Is anyone else getting sick and tired of these analysis's making stupid predictions as if they really know the answer. Bunch of annoying arrogant pricks if you ask me, who the hell agreed pay these ass holes to do nothing but make crappy, frequently wrong predictions?




Wish my job payed me to sit on my ass and talk crap all day :(
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 12:13AM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I agree these seemingly obvious predictions get annoying but there was a published study on Joystiq that showed Patcher has a greater than 50% correct status on his predictions ... thats god like in his line of business.
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 12:15AM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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oh and I'm pretty sure it's investors paying for his little diatribes so they know where to spend their monies ... yup ... people invest money based off this douche bags word.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:23PM oOWallaceOo said

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Michael Pachter is so good at making predictions he knew what date it is tomorrow, yesterday.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:28PM m2z2 said

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Why is "stating the obvious", news on joystiq, let alone a paid job.
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Posted: Jul 1st 2009 12:07AM Korwyn said

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so, basically you want me to fart again?
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:30PM (Unverified) said

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Wow, Pachter! You're right! Because I have a SDTV I have no interest in upgrading to the Xbox 360 that I own!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2009 10:43PM R Planteer said

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FFS. Stop making it so obvious that you get paid to put pachters bull on this site. Everytime you post an article, people bitch and moan about it. I know for a fact you guys read the comments, so some money is going into somebodies pocket as a reward for you guys posting this stuff. Either that or you enjoy pissing off your web traffic.
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