Nintendo's 'Demo Play' planned for handheld games as well

Not really. The people who don't care carry on conversation as normal, and the people who apparently care way too much make asses out of themselves, which is par for the course.

Nothing special.

Anytime someone states that it will be fun to watch, it rarely is.

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Someone needs to miniaturize that shit. But yeah, that about covers it.

Except you can't control when the cutscenes appear. This mode is an idea that if a level, or part of level even, is too hard, you simply let the game take over and play for you until you feel you have the spine to play it yourself.

I said it before when they last posted this story. It's going to take all the challenge out of games for people and it's going to kill the longevity. I used the example that my first experience with video games with Super Mario Bros. and I could never jump the first gap on 1-1 because I couldn't grasp the concept to push forward AND A. What kind of a gamer would I be now if I simply let the game "do it for me?" I'd suck at games and I'd have no feeling of accomplishment what-so-ever.

Yeah I'm still thinking of this as blasphemy. I'm trying to picture how I would react if this was introduced when I was a kid in the SNES era. All I know is, I wouldn't have taken it very well and neither would anyone I knew that played games.

And cue the ones that care too much

Khan, re-read your post down there and then talk to us about caring too much.

I just happen to be very passionate about this industry (since I do work in it) and care about the directions that it goes in.

"They already have this. It's called a movie."

Well, all the core gamers want games to be more cinematic anyway, so...

"What kind of a gamer would I be now if I simply let the game "do it for me?" I'd suck at games and I'd have no feeling of accomplishment what-so-ever."

It says it in the patent:
YOU
CAN
NOT
SAVE
YOUR
GAME
IF
YOU
USE
THIS
FEATURE.

(which I personally think is stupid, but I digress..)

At some point, you have to actually play it yourself.

"At some point, you have to actually play it yourself."

Why then is the word "skip" being thrown around so often? skip != play it yourself

tmac, you mean back when companies used codes instead of save states? You want me to believe you never used the Tyson code in Punch-Out!! or something similar?

"Why then is the word "skip" being thrown around so often?"

Don't you just love video game journalism and how reporters don't ever do any research?

@Girugamuk

JUSTIN BAILEY
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FTW.

I was never a fan of punch out. Played it at a friend's, but I never really liked the series.

There isn't much I can add to that. It's so concise, and so . . . *right*.

Won't somebody think of the children?!



You guys sound ridiculous when you talk about kids these days not knowing how to do a super-jump...you know that, right?

As described by the patent, you can't save your progress if you use this feature. I don't see anything wrong with it. What's the difference between this and using a strategy guide?

The point is, you're not supposed to use either. You're supposed to figure it out on your own if you get stuck.

If I myself ever thought like that, tmacairjordan87, I don't think that I would have ever enjoyed any game.

@Jon, you still have to have to reaction time, concentration, etc. to do certain things in certain games. Defeating a difficult boss comes to mind. Strategy guides tell you the weaknesses, but they don't take the controller from your hand and do it for you.

I just don't see how anyone can enjoy a game when someone or something is telling them everything to do. That's kinda weak to me.

Since this doesn't save your progress, you're still going to need those things to actually complete the game (and I doubt this feature finds bonuses for you). So what's the difference between this and a YouTube playthrough?

But there have been so many games that hold your hand since the advent of 3D. All to varying degrees, of course, but that's where the industry has been heading for a long time

Ok, Jon. Let me use this as an example.

Let's say I SHOWED you how to do a kickflip on a skateboard. Do you still think you could do it? Let's say you read online about the proper foot placement and maneuvers to do a kickflip. Do you still think you could do a kickflip then? No. It involves a measure of concentration, skill and reaction time. Media does not replicate that for you. And yeah, so you can't save. But let's say I'm near the end of the game at the second-to-last or the last boss/level. It's the same difference.

I think this is quite a bit different than strategy guides or even on-screen instructions telling you what to do. In both of those instances at least you still have to do it yourself even if you didn't have to figure out what to do on your own. This actually does it all for you. You may as well just use a level skip. It's truly is the ultimate hand holding feature and I'm not the least bit surprised Nintendo is the one doing this BS.

I played through Metal Gear 2 entirely with a FAQ. I enjoyed the game very much. I wouldn't have if i had to figure out and find all the ridiculous crap they made you do.

@Vidikron: If you can't save, how exactly is this hand holding like you describe? This is more akin to using a GPS on a road trip. It tells you exactly what you need to do to get there, but you still have to drive.

@Storm Eagle::The Blood Edge: If I wanted to use this feature to see the end-boss, what's stopping me from watching it on video portal website, or better yet, having somebody else do it?

This really isn't that big of a deal y'all. In fact, maybe it'll lead to harder games from Nintendo.

@Jon A

We'll see how they actually implement it. The fact that one guy is calling is a "skip feature" would seem to imply you can use it to avoid sections completely.

Maybe there's some confusion here.

It says it will allow the player to "to skip difficult areas and watch them played automatically". Now, to me, this is what that statement means:

Arrive to point A: "Oh, man. This is way too hard. Demo Play "On".
Game takes over and controls character to point B.
Retake control at Point B: Man, that was much easier. Shoot, can't save though. Better play to the end.

Am I correct in this? Or is it that the game cuts to a video and shows you what to do, and then you do it? Because I think that's what some people think.

Nobody seemed to care when the new Alone in the Dark game had 'chapter skipping'. I suppose that's possibly a combination of all the critics saying the game was garbage, and people always loving to throw a toddler tantrum when it comes to Nintendo.

This won't ruin the 'purity' of video games, this isn't ruining the industry. You can still play video games the way you want to, no one is taking that away from you. Other people can play video games they want to. Cheezus crust.

I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one here who used a guide to get through the Water Temple in Ocarina.


And if I didn't have that guide? I probably would've thrown my N64 through my TV on multiple occasions

I think the details have been glossed over. The patent is by no means what has to happen when its actually implemented, and the Nintendo reps might be overly-simplifying what this thing actually does when they've explained it to journalists

If we want clarity, we'll simply have to wait until a final version of NSMBWii goes up, probably at the Fall Conference in October. Then we can see it in action

I was thinking more along the lines of Super Mario Brothers, If i flip to demo mode will it show me where exactaly to jump down into the infinate abyss to find the hidden pipe? Nothing like positive reinforcement to depressed preteens making them randomly commit suicide to achieve success in a video game....

simple solution,

dont like it? dont use it

other people using it doesn't affect YOU, does it?

The way I see it, the people who beat Ocarina of Time and solved all the puzzles using a strategy guide, versus the people who played through and beat it their own, who is happier in the end?

Whether intentional or not, that's a trick question. Because, guess what, they both can be equal amounts of happy! How effing crazy, wow!

If that happens I will find you and kill you.

And I will kill you WRE, because that's the best idea I heard today.

Zelda+Harder puzzles (lufia II ftw)= EPIC WIN

"how many NES games did we play as a kid where we just wanted to see what the rest of the game was like, not just level one, because the game was pain in the ass unfair?"

*raises hand*

But I put a lot of energy, time, and effort into seeing the ends of a lot of nes and snes games. Nowadays, games are easy as hell. Who really needs this for today's games?