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Posted: Jul 9th 2009 11:27AM StormEagle said

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I converted all the heathens! Hooray!

Posted: Jul 9th 2009 11:55AM dabamf said

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I'm the only person I know that I has played this game. I tried really hard to beat it, but it got insanely difficult. I was stuck on a mission trying to protect a church. When attackers came, I couldn't attack them, I had to convert them through singing and through a "preaching attack" with my hero character. My hero character would die every single time, and I'd fail the mission.

Posted: Jul 9th 2009 12:59PM LogiCub said

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"When attackers came, I couldn't attack them, I had to convert them through singing and through a "preaching attack""

Now there's a comment I never thought I'd hear regarding any game!
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Posted: Jul 9th 2009 2:04PM dabamf said

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It's really a sight to see!
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Posted: Jul 9th 2009 12:25PM littlejay2o02 said

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A really good example of a good game using Christian themes is Call of Juarez Bound in Blood. It is a violent game with blood and bad language but the story is really good and executed well. I was surprised at the religious parts in the story. You play as two really rough characters that are brothers and a third brother is around and tells the story and he is a seminary student that dropped out to watch after his family during the civil war. He follows his bad brothers around and tries to tell them about God and to do what is right and it shows in the story telling that he cares.

the Left Behind books were good but it is just an attempt to make money off the success of the series but there really isn't a way to make a good game out of it, much less making a low budget game based on the series

Posted: Jul 10th 2009 11:44AM soulbiscuit said

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You do make that game sound interesting, but then you also describe the Left Behind books as "good," so I'm a bit doubtful about your judgment.

The best religious game I have ever played, by far, is Okami.
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Posted: Jul 10th 2009 11:56AM littlejay2o02 said

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to each their own. i liked the books but i dont read a lot of books so your definition of "good" may be different than mine.

and i suck at describing things but just check all the other good review of that game and the good things they say about the story. including the review on this site :p
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Posted: Jul 9th 2009 12:39PM daman82 said

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I want to be overcome by "Spiritual Warfare"!

Posted: Jul 9th 2009 1:01PM (Unverified) said

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Wait! Wait! I wanna be trendy and say something dismissive and hateful about Christians, then go back to my sad empty life too!

Posted: Jul 10th 2009 10:04AM tlingitsoldier said

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Why does it have to be considered trendy to be derisive to Christians? They are the ones that are justifying their book's depictions of "moral character". I certainly don't mean that people should make fun of or be hateful to all Christians but a lot of them certainly deserve it. Besides, most Christians that I've met have been extremely critical and hateful of my atheism.

Also, my life of atheism is not sad and empty. I enjoy living a life where I know I don't have to be afraid of a vengeful god that will send me to hell because I got caught up in one of the Bible's many contradictions.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2009 3:16PM ArtificeDrake formerly known as said

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"no, you just winged him. now he's a unitarian..."

Posted: Jul 10th 2009 11:46AM soulbiscuit said

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Astutely observed.

Because dismissing the tenets of Christianity is the same thing as dismissing Christians, and pointing out the problems in a wicked (and hateful) religion makes one hateful oneself.

Talk about shooting the messenger.

Posted: Jul 10th 2009 4:48PM Seven Weasels Running on a Keybo said

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Who's shooting the messenger?

And kindly point out to everyone the way in which any religion can be reduced to "wicked and hateful?"

Here's a different view: the average person is religious to some degree. The average person is also a dipshit. There is a good deal of overlap there.
Don't knock the philosophy just because (some of) it's followers use it as a pedestal to step up onto their high-horses and spread righteous douche-baggery. Would that there was no religion; would-be-zealots would find something else to justify their supposed superiority over their fellow man (like race, class, politics, need I go on?)
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Posted: Jul 10th 2009 5:07PM soulbiscuit said

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First, please note that I did not "reduce" religion to "wicked and hateful." I merely said that a certain religion (Christianity) is wicked and hateful. That doesn't mean it can't be other things, including uplifting and inspirational to many believers.

Second, while your observations about the average person are probably correct (if not a little cynical), please note that I did not anywhere in that post attack religious people. I attacked religion itself. That religious people are on the whole oblivious of the wickedness and hatred (I don't want to become fixed on these words, but I'll use them for now) should not be surprising. We're often blind to the flaws in our most cherished beliefs.

I don't doubt that people would find something else to base their bigotry on if there were no religion. I also never alluded to that in any way. I simply referred to religion as hateful and wicked. That's all.

Christianity is wicked because it holds that all humans are born flawed and unworthy of consideration. They don't become deserving of their place alongside their beloved Creator unless he chooses to make them so, on a whim. That's wicked.

It's hateful because of the contempt it shows for humanity, for the reason above. We are vile, sinful, flawed creatures. That's a disgusting viewpoint to me.

Of course, you'd be right to point out that actual believers hold to those points to varying degrees. But the vast majority believe in a heaven, and that not everyone's gonna get to go there. Besides which, I'm talking the religion, not the religious.

As for "shooting the messenger," it's not a big deal, but I was just referring to the way you referred to attacking religion as "trendy" and the actions of someone with a miserable life, etc. (It sounded kind of snarky to me besides. Maybe I misunderstood.) Attacking religion is necessary. Many modern religions explicitly make humanity the willing slaves of a celestial overlord, whose appeasement often hinges on the destruction of millions of people.

Oh, and Left Behind sucks. :)
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Posted: Jul 10th 2009 4:40PM Seven Weasels Running on a Keybo said

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I'm gonna' pass on Left Behind and wait on Charlie Churchmouse: Game of the Year Edition.

Posted: Jul 10th 2009 5:08PM soulbiscuit said

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Man, that was a long post. Maybe you're right about my having a miserable life, gst. :)

Posted: Jul 10th 2009 5:11PM soulbiscuit said

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Whoops, you weren't even the one who said that! I'm sorry!

I fail the internet this morning.

Posted: Jul 12th 2009 12:48PM darkinchworm said

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Just a friendly reminder that you are not cool either, my friend.

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