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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:37PM soniccar said

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Also, Survivor 1 needs food badly.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:38PM s ls said

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is that a PC tag? Now people can finally stop bitching about no PC tag.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:43PM jhowlett said

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that made me click the post
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:46PM s ls said

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that and i wish i had this game if i owned a 360/PC (Capable of running the game)
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:31PM McWilly said

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Yeah but it's mustard yellow :S
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 11:54PM ZaxCG2 said

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I keep saying this, but now it seems kind of useless...
There is a PC Joystiq and it is BigDownload.com

Now if they cared about the community there, they would probably give us some icons and reply system, so it might be better just to hang around here.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 12:31AM Ricky Bango said

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@ZaxCG2: Big Download is one of the most poorly written and produced blog sites I have ever followed. I am glad to see PC become a category on Joystiq.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 9:50AM Emophia said

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I keep wondering, Infamous, who's the chick in your thingy majigy?
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 11:49AM darkinchworm said

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@Emophia: Hayley Williams of Paramore
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 12:30PM The Nth Doctor said

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@emophonia She is one of the few Muses to survive the classical era into our own time.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:42PM SpaceFox said

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Oh my, what is this yellow thing with "PC" on it? It looks eerily familiar to the Xbox tag...hm..... OMGZ NO WAY. First time I ever see this, is it new?
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:43PM Amoveo said

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Valve has to do one of two things to satisfy me.
1) Make this a true sequel by adding drastic improvements that make the game play differently so that I forget about the original. This does not seem to be the case so far.
2) Make a great expansion that smoothly incorporates Left 4 Dead 1 characters and maps into it. Right now this seems likely especially since they keep hinting at connectivity with the original. When/if they announce that then I will be happy. Although I'm sure plenty of people will be pissed about what is obviously an overpriced expansion.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:58PM Foetoid said

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1) If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

2) I would expect to see original levels as an expansion later on.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:05PM Amoveo said

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Games should improve at least marginally with each sequel. If nothing has changed and I am out $50 then it was disappointing. I don't mind more of the same, but when you slap a two on the title, call it a sequel, and charge full price I want you to give me more.

The original levels already exist. They are already balanced and I am already playing them. Why can't Valve just include them? The idea of an expansion pack is not new, its not like Valve would have trouble inccorporating the levels in. So why would it appear later on?
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:11PM AdamSpruijt said

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I can't help but feel they are making less significant improvement to L4D than they have with TF2, yet are insisting they call it a sequel. I really hope I'm wrong 'cause L4D is a rockin' game.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:57PM JXCGunrunna said

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Knowing Valve, there will be a L4D/L4D2 Deathmatch. which would be awesome
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 12:35AM Ricky Bango said

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@Adam: Setting the standard for improvements made between sequels at TF2's is waaaaay too high. There were ten years (or something) between TF and TF2!
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 9:15AM oolz said

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who the fuck cares. Doom 2 was Doom 1 with a double barrel and new levels. Who complained? Nobody. There's been so little changed from quake to quake or Unreal to Unreal and nobody is bitching. Just like a thousand games before it, it takes a fun and successful gameplay style, improves a few things and adds all new content. You people are spoiled little bitches.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2009 3:04AM (Unverified) said

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"There's been so little changed from quake to quake or Unreal to Unreal and nobody is bitching."

Actually, all games in the Quake series are very distinct in setting, gameplay and engine, as are the Unreal games.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:45PM Flo said

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Make it like 30$
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:41PM Crusty Magic said

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But they won't because people will buy it at $60.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 1:11AM Handbone said

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I bought the game day of release for 45 dollars (although it was amazon)
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:53PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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except you did spam

so....
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:55PM LuiginDaisy said

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I think they should go the Rock Band route. If I were to buy Left 4 Dead 2, I want to be awarded with something, like unlock all of the original characters, etc...
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 9:55PM (Unverified) said

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I think they probably have more improvements and additions to reveal so I'll hold my whining about it being an over priced expansion.

I'll buy this game day one no matter what though. It's just way too much fun.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:07PM Amoveo said

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You may be right, but why would they hold back on showing the new stuff. If they have more new infected and more guns why keep it a secret? There are a lot of people pissed that the game isn't a full sequel, showing off a ton of new stuff would shut them up.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:04PM soniccar said

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If I was spamming I would be putting it on every story to appear on josytiq. That is something that I am not going to do.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:10PM (Unverified) said

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took them a while to come up with that name.......
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:36PM 33PercentGod said

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Will be waiting until the $29.99 price point.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:38PM QuePasa87 said

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I have faith in them keeping the community for me. Day 1 buy for me as usual
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:43PM (Unverified) said

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Put putting it into a story that has nothing to do with you're talking about is, at the least, ANNOYING.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 10:43PM (Unverified) said

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*But, not put, lol
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 11:03PM (Unverified) said

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I don't understand why everyone is calling this an expansion pack...

You do realize that is has more campaigns, new characters, new weapons, new visual upgrades, and new AI features, right? You're a moron if you expect Valve to give this away for $20...

Valve has taken an incredible game and improved on it in every way. Isn't that what sequels are supposed to do?
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 11:23PM ATimson said

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Is it what a sequel is supposed to do? Yes, though a sequel would do it to a greater extent than _Left 4 Dead 2_ does. And it's also the material was promised for _Left 4 Dead_.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 1:01AM TheyDidItFirst said

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more campaigns - could be easily added as dlc

new characters - so? this certainly isn't a game whose characters are important at all. in fact, based on what we've seen, the original four were more interesting

new weapons - a few melee weapons that could be easily added through dlc. other than that, its mostly just visual upgrades to the existing weapons.

new visual effects - hardly. so what if zombies can fall apart in dynamic ways? that doesn't particularly improve the user experience

new AI features - that sound particularly uninviting to me. I don't want the actual level to change, i like that despite the dynamic placement of enemies i can count on the map as a constant.

the only important improvements in l4d 2 over l4d are the new maps (which the survival pack proved could be imported and could be charged for) and, to a lesser extent, new weapons (which could simply be added as part of a map pack). so while this game does tick off all the boxes of things expected by people, it seems very halfassed to me. i would much rather valve work another year and add something more meaningful, and simply put out some more maps in the meantime.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 2:16AM oboreruhito said

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I wonder if Modern Warfare 2 is going to be $60.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 9:20AM oolz said

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ifalldownstairs: It seems half-assed because you are a know nothing tit who has no concept of what it takes to get this done.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 7:30PM Ex14 said

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you also do realise that they just said not much visual improvements right? sorry but now the content it has doesn't even warrent a sequel (For me)
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 11:09PM Berzerk said

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To all the people who don't want to pay $60, it'll be $50 on Steam. :P

I'm still hoping for them to announce some sort of Orange Box style pack.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 11:20PM ATimson said

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You mean one that charges people more for having bought earlier games in the series? Yeah, I'm looking forward to one of THOSE...
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 11:22PM Berzerk said

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Of course, because TF2, Portal, and HL2E2 were all available prior and not worth $50 in a pack.

When it comes to EVERYTHING if you buy something day 1, you're going to pay more.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 11:37PM ATimson said

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No, they weren't worth $50. $30, tops.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 12:37AM Ricky Bango said

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And suddenly, Timson's credibility vanished!
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 9:44PM Berzerk said

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My comments aren't replying correctly. :/

Portal, TF2, and Episode 2 were worth $30 EACH. Valve, very kindly, gave you all three for $50, plus HL2 and E1, for those who didn't have it, for free.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2009 11:47PM Swizzler said

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wow... um, i don't even know where to start with this. ok. um, one of the main features of the source engine when it debuted was its ability to update the engine without having to replace the game. The ONLY reason for the sequel is because of xboxs dammed DLC size limits.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 12:02AM Nomi said

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$60 is way too much...I paid $49 for the original. Just wait for the inevitable 50% price drop during one of the weekends.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 12:08AM Havok said

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Can't we all just get along? It's not like Valve killed your parents or something.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 1:04AM freaparn said

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I like supporting Valve and all, but this price tag on what (to me) seems to be a glorified map pack relegates L4D2 to 360 rental status.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 3:08AM Cafecito said

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So... will it have a campaign mode or something this time around? I mean, a single player game with some background story.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2009 4:04AM TheDarkWayne said

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Dang, normally id buy this one regardless of whatever money grabbing valve might be guilty of, but with sooooo many other games coming out november i dont know if i can justify new characters maps and enemies, maybe if there are more than 1 new special infected, and more than 4 maps ill buy it, if not ill at least get it at Christmas
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