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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:24PM (Unverified) said

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We're watching you.
O.o'''
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:32PM MrVee PSN Vampah said

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Can anyone confirm if this is real and this would confirm this whole post too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L17O43X39cg
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:34AM ptcamn said

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@ Kill

I'd say it is very real because nothing shown there can't be done by the Eyetoy right now. You can even see some sliding happening on some objects the people are grabbing. Is it a game? Probably not. I'd bet it is a tech demo for developers of updated libraries to work with the technology.

I can't find the video but I saw a demo for the PSEye from early this year where it was used to put the person in front of it a virtual wig. It was in a showroom in Japan.

Check these out too (from 2004 showing Eyetoy tech being researched since 2001):

Head tracking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfbMxcJHJAw&feature=related

The basics of the PS Motion control concept:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtoxKDcCXc

And research for full body mocap that Sony did 5 years before Microsoft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYHr0I-iFHE&feature=related

Enjoy!
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:23AM MystileArmor said

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That's just as fake as the Project Natal trailer was with the skateboarding and trying on the clothing.

Those video's are a big "what if", sort of. They showcase the options they claim to be possible. Wether anyone is going to program anything like that is a whole different story.

If those video's were real like that, they would've shown off exactly that at (example) E3.
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 2:25AM DrSammyD said

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@Pat

In this video you pointed to,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYHr0I-iFHE&feature=related

He says about 38 seconds in that the camera they are using, is developed by 3DV systems, which is the company that Microsoft bought last year. So yeah, it's not like Sony was doing it before, it's that 3DV was. They passed up on buying it, thier loss. But that video is the SAME tech that Natal is made of, or rather, a precursor to it.
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:10PM simbadogg said

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gah'd damn i love hall & oates...i was just singing this the other day
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:15PM KamasamaK said

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@Dr.SammyD

Sony was still researching/experimenting with that technology and developed some kind of software for it. The hardware is just a means to detect motion, not capture it. Perhaps they deemed the cost too high at the time to bother with such fidelity.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:24PM Sc4rfac3 said

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LOL i like Hall and Oates
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:44PM mezzaninex said

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Me too.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:46PM (Unverified) said

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Thirded!
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:40PM Manifest37 said

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fourthdeded
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:12AM llllFlREBlRDllll said

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Fifth'd.
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:17AM DBuckEye said

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C-c-c-combo Breaker!!
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 1:25AM Sly C said

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are you allowed to call the combo breaker by doing the combo breaker yourself?
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 11:17AM Wonderflex said

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No you aren't...so I'll do it for him:

C-c-c-combo Breaker!!
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:29PM (Unverified) said

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I just hope it doesn't watch -everything- I do...
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:38PM MystileArmor said

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Your chocolate-in-the-pants-stuffing-days are over mister!
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:29PM jhowlett said

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i still have to pick one up. was going to with burnout but i still don't have that.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:22PM LuTon James said

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I've never found it useful. Just borrowed my mates to net the platinum and did not want after that.
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:20AM jhowlett said

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it has other uses beyond that game.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:30PM (Unverified) said

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Whats f**kin stupid about the camera is, it wasnt cheap and yet what the F are they doing with it?!?!? Nothing!!! Why cant they make the game makers use it for OUR advantage in games like UFC! When we create our character, have it read our freakin face damn it, so we can then use it on the damn body@!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:44PM (Unverified) said

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uh, don't blame Sony for it, hell, those features have been available for quite a while on some 1st party games even for PS2 games....
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:26PM SoCoolCurt said

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yea i have a PSEye and i am sorely dissappointed with the lack of support for it. i don't have a single game i use it with. and i do realize that that is the developers faults for not using it but Sony could have pushed it more like MS is doing with Natal now. i mean Sony had a tech demo a couple years ago showing the PSEye doing almost exactly the same stuff as Natal, yet we see absolutely nothing from it. i tell ya what though, i bet Sony starts to use it if Natal takes off.....
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:24AM MrVee PSN Vampah said

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Talk 2 the UFC devs about that, take fight night for example, Im playing with a virtual me its awsome :) Took 2 pics of me and was done,
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:37AM megapenguinx said

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Your post has way too many punctuation marks.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:29PM Shagittarius said

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and i got no privacy...
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Posted: Jul 18th 2009 1:05AM Jacksy said

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I have burnout, about the only game that takes a picture ..oh and LBP .that two at least.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:30PM incredibilistic said

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What's really frustrating is that Sony had Project Natal-like features for YEARS with the Eye Toy and had the ability to go further with the PS Eye but they just slept on the technology and now they're paying for it.

If Sony really wanted to they could implement a similar experience but unfortunately for them they'll look like the copy cats, not MS.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:23PM Premature ejaculation man said

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Eyetoy was more a motion detection camera. But yes I still see your point.
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 4:10PM DrChristopher said

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How are they "paying for it"?

Sony will be gauging the market response to Natal and can implement something similar if they want, and they'll have their own high accuracy motion controller as well. Not that frustrating imo.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:33PM APV said

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If they made another antigrav game for the PS3 then I would get it.

It was the funnest game on the PS2 eyetoy.

http://www.us.playstation.com/PS2/Games/EyeToy_AntiGrav/OGS/
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:24PM MrVee PSN Vampah said

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I remember them great eyetoy games lol, its why im struggling to see how project natal is as "revolutionary" as its supposed to be,
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:26PM MrVee PSN Vampah said

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Infact, stick the word "Project" Infront of somthing and it seems much much more fancier lol,

Project Playstation
Project Xbox
Project EYe toy

And so on
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 8:26AM Ashitaka said

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The game's motto is the same as Natal's!

"Your body is the controller"! (
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:34PM (Unverified) said

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So Natal and PS Eye can essentially do the same thing. I knew it, but I'm still gonna get a XB360 to play Halo with motion controls
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:10AM APV said

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That would be difficult I think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUxiXEGtp70
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 2:32AM (Unverified) said

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Well I don't have a cat, so it'll work perfect. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:35PM enbadesign said

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Or maybe Sony knows that the type of controls Natal is capable of is nothing more than a gimmick and doesn't work for anything other than simple mini game crap.

Perhaps that is why the PS Eye is really just a advanced webcam or at worst a simple toy to play with for a little while and discard.
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:05AM Brendan H said

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Doesn't really matter if you consider it a gimmick or not. It only matters if people will buy it. Odds are, they will.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:41PM (Unverified) said

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I can assure you that 'Playstation Eye' is nowhere near as technical as the camera and sensors used by the 'Natal' project. I am no console gamer but I do know about this technology and it really does work. I'm not going to get dragged into an argument I'm just stating FACT, simply because I dont like it when these companies (all of them) lie to you the public.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:59PM Wiizer said

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"I am no console gamer"

GTFO
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:00PM (Unverified) said

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ok expert. so you won't reveal why the technology is better because the details are too technical for us simpletons and it's fact because you said so without any points to back you up.. oh yeah. right, you're god. forgot about that
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:09PM aughscreennames said

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YOU ARE 500,000% WRONG!
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:55PM MrVee PSN Vampah said

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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:40PM RobS the 3rd said

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It's only a matter of time before our game consoles become self-aware, and then...


ROBOT CONSOLE APOCALYPSE!
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Posted: Jul 17th 2009 12:11AM APV said

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hahaha, made me laugh.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:40PM MystileArmor said

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This seems like a quick jab at Microsoft. I'll just wait and see what Natal will do for gaming before I make my judgement, though.

If this thing is so great, howcome no one does anything with it, at all?
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:45PM (Unverified) said

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cause sony needed that kick in the pants from microsoft....
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 10:47PM (Unverified) said

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No quick jab, they are right, they have done it before

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeToy#Games

the problem was that the recognition software wasn't as advanced(and so accurate) as it is now
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Posted: Jul 16th 2009 11:35PM MystileArmor said

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I don't know if it's so much software as the hardware.
Natal has 3 ways of seeing stuff (if I remember correctly). It just seems more accurate then the Eyetoy. I don't know though.. we'll see it when we see it.
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