Interview: Shaimus
Shaimus is a band born out of Harmonix, featuring former employees Phil Beaudreau and Johannes "Rash" Raasina, and has been lucky enough to have songs in both Guitar Hero ("All Of This") and Rock Band 2 ("Like a Fool'). They recently launched a new album, and we caught up with them at one of their Los Angeles shows to see what it's like being a rock band in a video game about ... rock bands.
Read the interview after the break, and check out one of their free tunes right here.
How did the band form?
Phil got a bunch of guys from college together to start playing some rock songs he had written. It was really fun, and after making Paper Sun we all realized this was a very good idea ... and it still is, so we're still playing.
When did you first find out about Guitar Hero and what it was, and that you'd have a song in it?
Phil and Johannes were working at Harmonix in Cambridge, Massachusetts doing video game testing for the Karaoke Revolution game in 2005 when Guitar Hero was being developed. Harmonix was a tiny company with a very small budget for the game, and they were looking for local Boston artists and bands with Harmonix employees in them to fill out their bonus track selection for the game. We had just recorded a not-quite-finished version of "All Of This," which we gave them figuring it might be fun to play because it had a guitar solo in it. They liked it and decided to include it.
Was the feedback from having the song in the game immediate?
It was pretty immediate in that it created some demand for our first CD months before it even came out. It took a little time for Guitar Hero to blow up into the phenomenon it did, but hints that it was going to become very popular were there right from the beginning. It was fun reading message boards with people who loved "All Of This," and it made us realize we had to get the album finished and pressed as soon as we could to capitalize on the exposure.
Two of the guys in the band worked at Harmonix, would the song have gotten in the game otherwise?
Probably not. So many of the bonus bands had Harmonix employee members, and our band was so new when the game was being developed, we wouldn't have had much pull to say "Hey, put us in your game. No one's ever heard of us, but we're totally awesome."
How did having a song in the game impact the band? Do people still recognize you from Guitar Hero?
It impacted us in the sense that it gave us instant international exposure. The Internet allows every band to be heard worldwide these days, but getting people to listen to you in the first place is the real challenge, particularly considering most people are pretty skeptical of unknown bands. Being in a game, specifically a game where people are "playing" our song, had tons of people listening to our music about as intently as they could.
By the time Guitar Hero and Rock Band exploded, you guys found out you'd have a song in Rock Band 2, how did that come about?
We've always continued our relationship with Harmonix, even after we moved to the West coast. Anytime they would work on a new game, we'd ask them if we could be in it again. But with the games' exploding popularity, and without Phil and Johannes working for the company, it was harder to get a song in. Not to mention, we hadn't come out with any new CDs since Paper Sun. Luckily by the time Rock Band 2 came along, we were working on our new CD and they were cool enough to include "Like a Fool" as one of the free downloads.
Is it weird playing your own songs in the games?
The first time we ever played "All Of This" in Guitar Hero, I think it blew our minds a little, but now it's more cool than weird. It's really fun to know that we are a part of the music game phenomenon, even if it was only a small "bonus" part.
Have the music games started changing the face of music? Are people exposed to more music through games than through iTunes?
Video games were already exposing a lot of people to new music, but music games took it to a whole other level. They've probably also gotten people to like bands and genres of music that they may never have even liked if they never got the chance to play along with them. Playing along to a song gives people a much stronger connection to the music. It's hard to say what exposes fans to music the most, but people are certainly going straight from the music games to iTunes and buying the songs that they like.
How did you have to prepare the songs for the games?
For Guitar Hero it was pretty simple -- Harmonix asked for each guitar track separated, and one stereo track of the rest of the instruments and vocals. For Rock Band it was a bit more complicated -- since players can perform vocals, drums, bass and guitars, we needed to split up all these instruments and send a special file containing the separate parts. Having made the record on our own definitely made this process easy. We just opened up the song and made the necessary changes.
Has having a song in the games made you change anything about your music?
We haven't consciously written or arranged songs to fit into a video game, but we definitely joked that "Like A Fool" was Guitar Hero ready when we finished it!
What do you think the next step is for music + video games?
Guitar Hero and Rock Band come with pre-packaged material. The Internet allows for downloading hundreds of additional tracks that wouldn't fit on the original disc so this was certainly a good start ... but the song still has to exist somewhere. The next step might be something where you can connect the game directly to your music library, and download whichever song strikes you at the moment directly into the game. If the game had the ability to determine different parts intelligently, and convert it into a playable format, this would be very cool. Although we can't imagine how the technology would be that smart!
What game systems do you guys play on and what do you like playing?
We all agree that Mario Kart 64 is one of the greatest games ever created. Other than that we play a variety of games on PS2 and 360 - racing games, GTA, first-person shooters. Not too many sports games though. Cam and Johannes prefer playing each others instruments on Rock Band. Evan would probably stumble through his guitar solo on "All Of This" on medium.
What's next for the band?
Promoting our new album and music in all ways we can think of! For example, blogs (like Joystiq) help further the Shaimus online buzz. Touring exposes more people to the [hopefully] memorable connection that happens between an audience and a band at a live show. Licensing our music to movies and TV spread our sound to a wide audience and adds to the important subconscious feeling of "Oh, I think I've heard this song somewhere".
Of course, the reason we play music is to have fun, so we'll be sure to make plenty of entertaining and silly videos for our YouTube channel as well. Tune in some time!
Read the interview after the break, and check out one of their free tunes right here.
Gallery: Shaimus
How did the band form?
Phil got a bunch of guys from college together to start playing some rock songs he had written. It was really fun, and after making Paper Sun we all realized this was a very good idea ... and it still is, so we're still playing.
When did you first find out about Guitar Hero and what it was, and that you'd have a song in it?
Phil and Johannes were working at Harmonix in Cambridge, Massachusetts doing video game testing for the Karaoke Revolution game in 2005 when Guitar Hero was being developed. Harmonix was a tiny company with a very small budget for the game, and they were looking for local Boston artists and bands with Harmonix employees in them to fill out their bonus track selection for the game. We had just recorded a not-quite-finished version of "All Of This," which we gave them figuring it might be fun to play because it had a guitar solo in it. They liked it and decided to include it.
Was the feedback from having the song in the game immediate?
It was pretty immediate in that it created some demand for our first CD months before it even came out. It took a little time for Guitar Hero to blow up into the phenomenon it did, but hints that it was going to become very popular were there right from the beginning. It was fun reading message boards with people who loved "All Of This," and it made us realize we had to get the album finished and pressed as soon as we could to capitalize on the exposure.
Two of the guys in the band worked at Harmonix, would the song have gotten in the game otherwise?
Probably not. So many of the bonus bands had Harmonix employee members, and our band was so new when the game was being developed, we wouldn't have had much pull to say "Hey, put us in your game. No one's ever heard of us, but we're totally awesome."
How did having a song in the game impact the band? Do people still recognize you from Guitar Hero?
It impacted us in the sense that it gave us instant international exposure. The Internet allows every band to be heard worldwide these days, but getting people to listen to you in the first place is the real challenge, particularly considering most people are pretty skeptical of unknown bands. Being in a game, specifically a game where people are "playing" our song, had tons of people listening to our music about as intently as they could.
By the time Guitar Hero and Rock Band exploded, you guys found out you'd have a song in Rock Band 2, how did that come about?
We've always continued our relationship with Harmonix, even after we moved to the West coast. Anytime they would work on a new game, we'd ask them if we could be in it again. But with the games' exploding popularity, and without Phil and Johannes working for the company, it was harder to get a song in. Not to mention, we hadn't come out with any new CDs since Paper Sun. Luckily by the time Rock Band 2 came along, we were working on our new CD and they were cool enough to include "Like a Fool" as one of the free downloads.
Is it weird playing your own songs in the games?
The first time we ever played "All Of This" in Guitar Hero, I think it blew our minds a little, but now it's more cool than weird. It's really fun to know that we are a part of the music game phenomenon, even if it was only a small "bonus" part.
Have the music games started changing the face of music? Are people exposed to more music through games than through iTunes?
Video games were already exposing a lot of people to new music, but music games took it to a whole other level. They've probably also gotten people to like bands and genres of music that they may never have even liked if they never got the chance to play along with them. Playing along to a song gives people a much stronger connection to the music. It's hard to say what exposes fans to music the most, but people are certainly going straight from the music games to iTunes and buying the songs that they like.
How did you have to prepare the songs for the games?
For Guitar Hero it was pretty simple -- Harmonix asked for each guitar track separated, and one stereo track of the rest of the instruments and vocals. For Rock Band it was a bit more complicated -- since players can perform vocals, drums, bass and guitars, we needed to split up all these instruments and send a special file containing the separate parts. Having made the record on our own definitely made this process easy. We just opened up the song and made the necessary changes.
Has having a song in the games made you change anything about your music?
We haven't consciously written or arranged songs to fit into a video game, but we definitely joked that "Like A Fool" was Guitar Hero ready when we finished it!
What do you think the next step is for music + video games?
Guitar Hero and Rock Band come with pre-packaged material. The Internet allows for downloading hundreds of additional tracks that wouldn't fit on the original disc so this was certainly a good start ... but the song still has to exist somewhere. The next step might be something where you can connect the game directly to your music library, and download whichever song strikes you at the moment directly into the game. If the game had the ability to determine different parts intelligently, and convert it into a playable format, this would be very cool. Although we can't imagine how the technology would be that smart!
What game systems do you guys play on and what do you like playing?
We all agree that Mario Kart 64 is one of the greatest games ever created. Other than that we play a variety of games on PS2 and 360 - racing games, GTA, first-person shooters. Not too many sports games though. Cam and Johannes prefer playing each others instruments on Rock Band. Evan would probably stumble through his guitar solo on "All Of This" on medium.
What's next for the band?
Promoting our new album and music in all ways we can think of! For example, blogs (like Joystiq) help further the Shaimus online buzz. Touring exposes more people to the [hopefully] memorable connection that happens between an audience and a band at a live show. Licensing our music to movies and TV spread our sound to a wide audience and adds to the important subconscious feeling of "Oh, I think I've heard this song somewhere".
Of course, the reason we play music is to have fun, so we'll be sure to make plenty of entertaining and silly videos for our YouTube channel as well. Tune in some time!













Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Fo0dNippl3 @ Jul 18th 2009 7:11PM
It's cool to see them getting some exposure; I picked up Paper Sun after I heard All of This in Guitar Hero, and picked up their latest album after it came out, too.
It's interesting to see that these smaller bands are definitely more supportive of the rhythm game medium than those bigger, more popular bands. I dunno if it's just because these guys really appreciate the kind of advertising they get or if those popular guys (Jack White, I'm looking at you) are just... Well, stuck up.
Sly @ Jul 18th 2009 7:19PM
jack white is fine with people playing the rhythm games, he just thinks it's disappointing that kids are being introduced to music by them. and that's stupid. i never would have started listening to bang camaro or the offspring if it wasn't for GH/RB.
ryanpaulmcgowan @ Jul 18th 2009 7:40PM
How else would they be exposed to the music? That's what makes Jack Whites statements absurd.
Want me to listen to the radio? Alright. Except, not really. The format there is terrible. Songs will play and sometimes, maybe, you'll get to know what song that was. Even then, you're primarily listening to a bunch of nothing.
So, alright. The internet exists. And... what about it? I can't just type in "good music" in a google search and get anything I can't hear on the radio.
So... how, exactly, do you want people to learn about these bands? Word of mouth? Yeah, that doesn't really work when radio stations won't play songs from bands that can't pay them. Maybe someone will tell me the name of a band and I can go look it up. But wait, the chances of it actually being something good is so small that most people don't even try.
The problem is that the amount of crap out there far outweighs the amount of amazing, and games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band attempt to weed out the crap and give us amazing.
Not that I think Shaimus is amazing (I can't stand any of their stuff), but that's the sort of exposure you get from these games. You won't get that exposure anywhere else.
Petebot330 @ Jul 18th 2009 7:41PM
Yes, Jack White is more diappointed that it seems to be THE ONLY WAY for kids to be exposed to new music--radio, MTV, etc are dropping the ball.
Peace Fog @ Jul 18th 2009 8:05PM
Being introduced to music threw GH/RB is great for younger kids because they can listen to music they won't ever have otherwise
Fo0dNippl3 @ Jul 18th 2009 8:09PM
Maybe Jack White was a bad example. I know Prince has said that he would prefer that kids play real instruments instead of video game ones, which is why he hasn't licensed his songs out to any of the games. Prince probably has room to do this because he is (or at least was) immensely popular and doesn't really need the advertising. But that begs the question, are some of these smaller bands actually upset that their music is being put into the games but they just go with it because it means they get exposure?
Elastic Zone @ Jul 18th 2009 8:23PM
Always the best of all start when we are younger and our soul is still free
Hafkie @ Jul 18th 2009 8:49PM
All of This was part of the best bonus setlist of any GH/RB game.
The Breaking Wheel
Cavemen Rejoice
Eureka, I Found Love
Cheat on the Church
All of This
Behind the Mask
Farewell Myth
Hey
Sail Your Ship By
Decontrol
Get Ready 2 Rokk
Story of My Love
Fire it Up
Everything except Callout and Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero was kinda cheesy (Made for the game by members of various HMX bands, but not my thing), and Callout is just because I don't like the Acro-brats' singer's voice.
Farewell Myth was very fun to play, but I lost alot of respect for Made In Mexico due to Yes We Can in GH2. I respect experimentation, but that song was just noise. And a gym whistle solo? A gym whistle solo. A fucking gym whistle solo. That's where I draw the line.
and Even Rats!
Fo0dNippl3 @ Jul 18th 2009 9:18PM
Eureka! I found luhhhhhh-huhhhhh-huhhhhhh-huuhhhhhhhhhve, luhhhhhh-huhhhhh-huhhhhhh-huuhhhhhhhhhve~
KeenCommander @ Jul 18th 2009 9:46PM
Aye, Cheat on the Church is my favorite song to appear in any Guitar Hero series game to date. I'm really disappointed it didn't end up in Smash Hits, or at least as DLC or something.
cleantone @ Oct 14th 2009 1:24PM
Even Rats coming to RBN!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWipzvOL_FE
CH3BURASHKA @ Jul 18th 2009 8:53PM
IT'S SPELLED SEAMUS YOU ANTI-IRISH RACIST BASTARDS.
MrSpaceCowboy @ Jul 18th 2009 9:54PM
I hope Shaimus releases more of their stuff for Rock Band via the upcoming Rock Band Network.
That would rule so hard.
Also; Even Rats. Put it in RB k thx.
Rob Welkner @ Jul 18th 2009 11:05PM
we had Shaimus as guests on COIN-OP TV LIVE not long ago - they performed 2 songs live and also an interview - http://www.thestream.tv/watch.php?v=1401
evan @ Jul 19th 2009 2:26AM
HMX should release a GH1 Bonus Songs pack for DLC. I would love to be able to play All of This, and really most of those bonus tracks. The bonus tracks HMX has chosen have all been downhill since that first batch. I miss rejoicing with the cavemen, and knowing that trouble was coming with the rats. Not to mention, trying to find the legs to crawl.
And... um... I really liked Hey also, but I can't think of a way to work it in.