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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:24AM ZeeG said

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I love how the Wii couldn't attract quality developers given years, but Natal isn't even announced yet and well known devs are already planning on making games for it.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:28AM PR0F3TA said

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well in fairness the Wii is "last gen" in some departments... some developers now have the same with Natal and Sony's wand but with ramped up graphics and a online structure and some sorta way to sell us DLC.

the only true way to see who wins in the Motion control department would have to be the first party games.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:38AM SoulBlade said

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yea because the Wii touts a great camera peripheral like Natal does.

Oh wait..
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:44AM JXCGunrunna said

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OMG did you guys hear? Zee just unannounced Natal.

Hey Zee, that whole show they did at E3 was Natal's announcement.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:08AM Mr Khan said

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They're only discussing possibilities, though. Much like they did and still do for Wii
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:51AM (Unverified) said

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JXCgunrunna was kind of a douche about it but it is true that they announced Natal, you can't say it hasn't been announced yet. They just haven't announced the real name, the price, the release date, or anything else pertinent.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:52AM (Unverified) said

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JXCgunrunna was kind of a jerk about it but it is true that they announced Natal, you can't say it hasn't been announced yet. They just haven't announced the real name, the price, the release date, or anything else pertinent.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:24AM R Planteer said

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Come on Country Folk Star Hero!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:24AM PR0F3TA said

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PaRappa the Rapper was indeed a great game, let alone one of the first music ones. I remember it had a unforgiving targeting system, easy to play hard to master sorta way.

but how can project natal benefit besides screaming back at the TV which still seems kinda farfetched to me
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:33AM cuteSAVAGE said

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PaRappa is great, but you need to look at NanaOn-Sha's other games to get a feel at where they could go with Natal-like technology. Vib and Mojib-Ribbon are great examples of interactive music games.

It's just unfortunate he's thinking along the lines of making a GH/RB-alike just with different styles music and not reaching further into the depths of his creativity and trying to pioneer new ways to interact with music in games.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:38AM (Unverified) said

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@Cute Savage

I don't think he said anything about emulating those games. He just said that style of music is played out and he wants to do something different, in fact he specifically says with different gameplay.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:41AM cuteSAVAGE said

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Ah, I guess I spaced out at the end of that quote. Hopefully they keep with it then :)
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:27AM KingBroly said

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Is it just me, or does that picture make Natal look larger than it has in previous pictures?
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:07AM Prox said

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They're beefing it up so people won't mistake it for a Wiimote and throw it through their TV screens.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 1:02PM Shadowbender said

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Except this time it would be their heads going through that T.V. screen.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:27AM (Unverified) said

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We need a game that comes with the special k and uses natal to put you in a virtual rave party.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:38AM (Unverified) said

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I'd buy it
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:27AM (Unverified) said

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Pop Hero... The Ashley Simpson experience
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:33AM (Unverified) said

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Why does everyone bash pop music? I'm getting a bit sick and tired of Rock Band and GH shoving 'edgy' acts down my throat. The ONLY reason I am buying lego rock band is because it features some classic modern and old pop songs.

KR and SingStar have doing the whole pop root for years but neither have enough funding to get decent songs, lets see what the magical people at MTV games can do, emphasis on MTV.

On a lighter note I think the music genre is best suited to Natal. Imagine a game where you have to fit into a stencil of a dance move in time to a beat, i THINK THAT COULD A RIOT AT PARTIES, IN FACT, i'M GOING TO DREAM EVEN MORE ABOUT THAT NOW.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:26AM (Unverified) said

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"Why does everyone bash pop music?"

Because it sucks.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:18AM Unvrfd said

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"Because it sucks."
I take it you're talking about the modern "RnB"/"Rap"/"Pop" crossover. Pop rocks.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:22AM (Unverified) said

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@Deaftly You clearly haven't been listening to very good Pop music. I'm talking Little Boots, Ladyhawke, Frankmusik, Marina and the Diamonds, Annie, la Roux, CSS, VV brown,BoA, Utada, the wonder Girls, ABBA, MADONNA, Sophie Ellis Bexter, The Yeah Yeah Yeahs ( indie dancish, kinda),Florence + and the machine, Santogold, Goldfrapp, LADY GAGA, MICHEAL JACKSON AND THE TING TINGS

Pop music is the most popular genre in the world, one look at charts world wide prooves that. I simply find it odd how this genre of music has been almost entirely overlooked. If developers and publishers want to bring in more casual gamers, particularly female gamers, then this is the genre they should be looking at. I'm sure most women would prefer girls night in singing along to Madonna than pounding a plastic guitar to the beat of a screaming glam rocker.

I admit I have used lots of stereotypes in my argument, e.g women like pop, dislike rock and men prefer rock to pop. But I am sure my argument is more sturdy than simply saying 'pop music sucks'.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:37AM MystileArmor said

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Just because pop is popular (hence the name), doesn't mean it's not crap. Personally, I don't like music that's made for the sole purpose of making money. Ninety percent of everything you hear on the radio has an autotuner on it. Not as an effect as T-Pain uses it, but just to correct the imperfections in a vocalists pitch.

Pop musicians hardly write their own songs, and there is so much pressure from record labels to record exactly whatever they want, there hardly is any artists input to the whole thing. There are some exceptions, but not many.

If you like it, good for you. But I'd hardly call that mass-manufactured bullshit good, and personally just because it qualifies as music, doesn't necessarily make it have any artistic value.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 12:47PM Tiptup300 said

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You guys realize "Pop" music isn't really it's own genre. It stands for POPular.

"Pop music is the most popular genre in the world" - hilarious!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 2:49PM Freddie Mercury said

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@Meh

I love pop rocks!!!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:33AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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damn all that....I'm 6'4" I'm not about to be doing no REAL dance moves or any of that....
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:43AM SoulBlade said

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you're probably going to have to set your camera up far away if you want the thing to get an image from head to toe. I wonder how this will work out in college dorms.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:55AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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my thoughts exactly....as for the dorms thing....NOT happening...lol
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 1:01PM Gib said

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@Chris D - "I'm 6'4" I'm not about to be doing no REAL dance moves"

Well, that is okay... I'm white, so I'm not about to be doing no REAL dance moves either.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 1:48PM (Unverified) said

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Personally, I'm hoping for "Krumpin' Hero". I can do it.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 3:01PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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oh dear Lord....PLEASE let Krumpin die....lol
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 6:34PM (Unverified) said

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LOL. I'm glad someone fricking got it. That was about to be a wasted joke.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:40PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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lol....if it wasnt for MadTV I wouldnt know what it was tho...lol
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:46AM Ubiquitous Oxymoron said

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Vict0r the Conduct0r! where u conduct the orchestra, gestural commands et al.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:51AM MystileArmor said

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Well, Majed. I think you're onto something. Everyone loves beaver,.. well almost everyone.

Either way, I think they should make a game about Leeroy Thornhill.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 7:20PM (Unverified) said

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What about Leeroy Jenkins? That takes rhythm.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:53AM MystileArmor said

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"why does everyone bash pop music?"

Hahah, cause it sucks? And alot of those "edgy" band you're probably referring to suck as well. Green Day is just as much pop as Ashley Simpson, for example.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:54AM MystileArmor said

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(reply disaster)
I partially take that back. Even though Green Day sucks balls, atleast they can play their instruments.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:34AM (Unverified) said

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Funnily enough almost all of the people I listed write or co-write all of their songs, and/or perform instruments in them.

Isn't this game fun, you throw an insult at pop music and I reply thoughtfully with a counter argument which matches your point and proves you are an ill-informed dumbass :P.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 11:47AM MystileArmor said

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Ashley Simpson co-wrote her songs. That kind of co-writing doesn't really go further as the actual writer asking them "Hey, what topic do you want to sing about"
Or letting them pick between what two verses they like better.

Oh, and fuck off. Call me an ill-informed dumbass on other topics, but as far as music goes, you don't know shit.

Being someone that WORKS in the music industry, anyone with a bit of musical knowledge will tell you you're a fucking retard.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 12:41PM (Unverified) said

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Being the janitor at 'we sign the people that play at local dingy clubs' records, doesn't mean you work in the music industry. You are entitled to your own opinion. However, just because you use 90's pop music money-making as your general idea of what pop music is makes that opinion wrong.

Pop music is about finding that one killer hook, that one beat, that one catchy chorus. Any of the those ingredients, or even better all is what makes pop music popular, maybe it has been manufactured. Does that mean it is bad? No. 'Baby One More Time' is probably the most manufactured song ever, does that mean that the hundreds millions of people that like that song are stupid or gullible? No.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 1:59PM (Unverified) said

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"Baby One More Time' is probably the most manufactured song ever, does that mean that the hundreds millions of people that like that song are stupid or gullible? No."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 2:45PM MystileArmor said

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I'm not going to elaborate more as to what I do in the music industry. No point in bragging about anything on the internet, and it will turn into a "my dick is bigger then yours"-argument.

Thanks to idiots like you, I don't bother to turn on the radio anymore.
You're entitled to believe whatever crap you think is the truth. You have fun listening to your Britney's and such. I'll rather listen to some artists that have a bit more integrity and make music because they have the love and the skills to do so.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 5:51PM maveric101 said

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Mystile get off your fucking high horse. why does it matter if your favorite bands have more "integrity" or skill than Britney Spears? the difference between you, and justiceblob & me, is that you are talking about being a fan of the musician, whereas we're talking about being fans of individual songs. yeah, there are some Britney songs i like. so what if she doesn't have "integrity," whatever that means. as long as you enjoy the song, it doesn't fucking matter where it came from.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 6:39PM MystileArmor said

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Well, he was asking why everyone is bashing pop music. I'm just explaining why.
Does all pop suck? No, it didn't used to. Michael Jackson was a talented "pop" musician. So were The Beatles.
It does nowadays though, but I really don't feel like I need to carry on this debate. You like whatever the fuck you want to like. Debating music with someone that likes music such as Britney Spears is like debating business management with a toddler.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 6:52PM (Unverified) said

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Mystile, don't worry about them. When the big labels crumple under the weight of their old ideas and strategies, people like Britney won't make it far enough to get popular anywhere but a strip club. All will be right, and all these arguments will be moot.

As for you guys who don't care who makes your mental junk food-- Have fun passing that disposable legacy on to your kids when they ask what you listened to when you were their age.

"dad, wasn't that the girl who sang other people's songs like they were hers and then shaved her head because people stopped looking at her because she was fat?"

Yeah, explaining that will be fun.

Pick and choose each song you like. That's fine. Don't care about the integrity of the artist, that's fine. The difference between people like Mystile and me, and maveric101 and justiceblob, is that we'll be PROUD of what we listen to in twenty years, and you'll have nothing to show. Enjoy.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 7:28PM MystileArmor said

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I honestly don't really care what people think of what I listen to. I listen to music cause I enjoy the artistic value and messages brought forward in them.

I'm not enjoying music for anyone but myself.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 9:55AM NaeemTHM said

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Less talkin' more rappin!!

Kick, punch it's all in the mind
If you wanna test me I'm sure you'll find,
the things I'll teach ya'
are sure to beat ya'
nevertheless you'll get a lesson from teacher.

NOW KICK!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:00AM MystileArmor said

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Holy shit, what is this crap?
A fat Megan Fox?
FAP FAP FAP
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Posted: Jul 20th 2009 10:02AM PedoJokerBear said

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*does nsync bye bye bye dance*
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