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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:06PM Marius said

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How quickly we forget, the only reason the 360 is seen growth is because last year at this time it was getting beat by the PS3 until the price cut
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:10PM Aurailious said

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Pure fanboy-istic comment right there. Sony bias polluting this forum.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:11PM (Unverified) said

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But its true though.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:15PM Ch0ppa said

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Yeah the ONLY reason......sony fanboys always trying to make excuses for PS3 going off the deep end. Truth of the matter is XBox 360 is a better system overall 9 (not necessarily more powerful, dont bombard me with the specs) but an overall better gaming/entertainment device. With its great online service (even if I have to pay a measly $4 a month) upcoming Dashboard features (Games on Demand, Facebook, Last.FM, Instant 1080 movie streaming, Avatar Awards, Netflix updates etc) its exclusive or timed exclusive DLC, greater selection of games, it clearly offers more bang for the buck and is getting close to the industries coveted "set top box". Not to mention Natal which will transform gaming. We'll see if Sony will stand up against the Xbox even IF it gets a price cut. So all you PS3 fanboys out there, try to come up with some better excuses!
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:19PM (Unverified) said

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@ Choppa

All the things you listed, except Live, don't better the games the Xbox is supposed to play.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:19PM Marius said

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^^^^ NOW thats a "fanboy-istic comment right there" and when did this place became a forum??, all I did was stated the truth but of course the truth hurts
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:20PM (Unverified) said

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I've never understood fanboys. Is it insecurity that drives them to praise a particular system and decry another? Is it boredom? Hubris? At any rate, it's perhaps the most depressing thing I've ever witnessed.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:20PM DBuckEye said

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Wow Ch0ppa. You're clearly not a 360 fanboy or anything like that.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:21PM (Unverified) said

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Other than that, I love you guys.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:25PM Saria the Cat said

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Ditto on both accounts, Robert...or is it?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:26PM Jono said

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Sony is getting legitmately owned here. They could've made significant progress if they announced the price cut early. Expect during Fall/Winter a catch up (I assume.)
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:28PM Typicalgamer said

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I heart you too, Robert...Lugia??? Even though i'm a fanboy :P
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:32PM (Unverified) said

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Even though my comments are kind of fanboyish in themselves, the first one not intentionally at least, I have to agree with Robert on this one.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:39PM (Unverified) said

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My real name is Grant, but Robert works as well (resisting the urge to use a happy face emoticon).
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:42PM Steven4 said

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@ Choppa

Facebook and Last.FM is avaliable through the PS3's browser, and more. Only gold users can use that for free I think, so it's really not free. 1080p streaming doesn't mean good image quality, and you need 8mbps internet speed. Xbox Live in terms of online quality, is pretty much the same as PSN - at least in my experience. Avatar awards is like the equivalent of some of the PS Home features that have been around for a while. The only exclusive DLC I can think of is in The Orange Box, and GTA IV, timed DLC is just a matter of waiting which is not a big deal. A lot of the 360 "exclusives" are on the PC, and can be run on pretty much any PC, and even be played with a PS3 or Xbox controller. In reality there are more PS3 exclusives ONLY on the PS3, you just haven't heard of any of them. Project Natal is over hyped and certainly won't transform gaming, besides the PS3 has a vastly improved Wiimote, and Project Natal all in one.

Microsoft just rips people off, and in 3 years time you're likely to spend more than $800(Live, accessories not built in, upgrades) dollars on your Xbox whereas you'll probably spend under $600(HDD upgrade maybe, mic, maybe an extra controller) on your PS3. And in my experience with both systems, beyond games, the PS3 is a much more versatile, open system.

I used to be just like you, along with other people, until I actually opened up my eyes and ears a little bit.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:45PM MarkezJM said

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A CHALLENGER APPROACHES!!!

*bangs gong
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:50PM Saria the Cat said

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Oh my gosh, Markez, that gong is making me lawl!
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 11:01PM Mouthsmasher said

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Well, Microsoft apparently made a very timely decision in lowering the cost of their system. Think of all the people that purchased one in the last year or two because of it. Now think of all those people who will stick with the xbox console for years and years to come because of the achievement system. After all the time spent building up their online 'reputation' and stats and achievements, they'll want to hold on to it.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 11:03PM Sly C said

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yeah, i consider myself a sony fanboy, and i found everyone of those statements (the irrational ones, not ones from saria or rob or markez) up there retarded. if you have all 3 consoles, you're allowed to say which one you think is better because you own all 3. most fanboys just troll the other consoles just because they can't afford them.

"oh well live is a whopping FIFTY DOLLARS a year!"
"the PS3 is SO GOD DAMN expensive!"

can't we just be happy with what we have?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 11:08PM Ch0ppa said

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@ ArchieGamer

In my post I said NOTHING about Xbox games being better than PS3 games. They both have great exclusives. What I was talking about was the add-on of features to the Xbox to entice some people that would normally not buy an Xbox. I also didnt mention 1 vs 100 which is pretty bad ass!!

@steven
Fallout 3 DLC come to mind? Its just now going to be released on PS3 after being out for Xbox for a looooonnnnggg time. Yeah of course the DLC is available for PC, and its usually FREE which poo poos on BOTH consoles, unfortunately everyone doest have $1500-$2500 to drop on a "gaming pc". Even if i did have a gaming PC i'd probably use a Xbox PC controller so it would almost defeat the purpose. I'd rather spend the $800 you are talking about (dont really know where you got that figure) and have a shitload of awesome games. I wont have to spend anymore money on accessories (already have 4 controllers, 60 GB HD which is fine for me, Turtle Beach X3 gaming headset, reg. headset and wireless headset for backup, xbox live camera) so i'm set on accessories until maybe Natal but I wouldnt call that an accessory. I'm not busting on PS3 as a system (its just as good as Xbox graphics wise, blah blah) but as a social networking/entertainment/gaming device the Xbox wins out. With my computer hooked up to my 37 inch HDTV I have the same thing as using a PS3 web browser so that isnt really a selling point for me. So maybe PS3 is better for a gamer that has no interest in socializing, but with my experience playing on XBox Live for the first time with my 360, I could never go back to gaming offline. Also do you think Last.FM will still be available for PS3 once it comes to Xbox? I SERIOUSLY doubt Microsoft will let that happen. It will probably go the way of Hulu.com which was recently blocked from being accessed by PS3 for some strange reason. Also I heard PS Home sucked. There was actually an article here on Joystiq awhile back talking about how only half the PS3 users even use Home. The PS3 may be a good system for SOME people, but obviously through sales the Xbox is a better system for MORE people.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 11:27PM (Unverified) said

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All my friends have 360s and play online on Live. So the 360 is the system i spend more time on, no matter what the specs or cost are.

This is the real problem Sony is creating by not lowering their price... I have both systems, but since my friends who only have one console (and that is most of them) almost all have the 360, I always buy multiplayer games on the 360.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 11:53PM (Unverified) said

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longhorn last year MS turned a profit and SONY turned a loss....
go figure.. what can you say there?
sony didnt beat MS last year at making money, so what are you claiming sony did better than MS last year?

in the end MS won last year over sony.

and this is just pure PWONAGE !!!
halo3.5, forza 3, and others havent even come out yet and sony has already unrolled most of their exclusives games this year that were supposed to help out so well according to sony and fanboys alike....

when you are trying to catch up, there is little to no room to go backwards...
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 12:08AM (Unverified) said

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And so, a valuable lesson goes unlearned. And Sly, you're not a fanboy. You may like Sony more than Microsoft or Nintendo, but you voice your arguments in a coherent manner. Don't be so self-deprecating, mate.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 12:18AM Sly C said

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thanks dude. and alton brown is the awesomest guy on food network.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 2:38AM F1 Basu Gasu Bakuhatsu said

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So let me try to sort out this mess.

Sony is the better counsel if your willing to jump through hoops but 360 is better as long as your willing to pay for extra's. Irrelevant numbers appear more often then random encounter's. Markez commit is blue. Saria lawl's which sounds like a horrible disease. Sly is a fanboy but isn't. And all the long posts can be summed up to "My dicks bigger than yours!".

Did I get it right?
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 3:28AM (Unverified) said

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Correct! You just won a million dollars!

What are you going to do now!
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 3:58AM F1 Basu Gasu Bakuhatsu said

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eh. look at porn
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 8:58AM KaneRobot said

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Steven - "Xbox Live in terms of online quality, is pretty much the same as PSN - at least in my experience."

Your experience must be pretty limited, then. Although with your vague proclamation of "online quality" (whatever that is supposed to mean), I'm sure you could just come back and pretend you only meant (insert Middling Feature X here).
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 9:07AM samfish said

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He is in all likelihood correct, though.
Last year recall that the PS3 was actually beating the 360 in the first half of the year, which lead to much crowing from Sony fanboys.
Then MS dropped the prices on 360s and the 360 gained a likely insurmountable lead over the PS3.
Even if you leave the PS3 stuff out of the equation, the fact is that when you cut the price of a product, there's a reasonable chance that you'll see sales go up, even on a YOY basis.

It's not fanboyism to say that they 360's YOY growth it a result of the price cut. It's common goddamn sense.



On a related note — porn sure is great.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:13PM (Unverified) said

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So the only that to will outsell the Wii is the DS?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:15PM Aperture said

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English please?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:16PM (Unverified) said

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*thing

Sorry, poor typing on my part.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 12:28AM Negativecool said

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That still doesn't make any sense.

E-N-G-L-I-S-H please.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2009 12:33AM (Unverified) said

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So the only thing that can outsell the Wii is the DS?

Ok that's way better. Was I high or something?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:20PM Mr Khan said

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21% over, though?

That price cut has been infinitely kind to them
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:21PM ScottG13 said

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Beats me. No major exclusives or anything. Is it just the cumulitve? XBLA, friends played COD:W@W, cheap and abundent used games and a VERY aggressive price point?

Either way, MSFT has played a pretty tough game this time around. Despite the hardware failures, they've been very competitive and are fielding a great product.

Love my PS3 for the Blu-Ray, but don't play much game on it.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:24PM Saria the Cat said

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ROYGBIV (almost)! :D I just organized all my books on the bookshelf according to their color in the ROYGBIV fashion last night.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:28PM (Unverified) said

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What are these "books" you speak of? Can I connect my wiimote to it?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:29PM MarkezJM said

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NERD CRED!

*bangs gong
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:31PM Saria the Cat said

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@Archi: They're those little paper packet thingies that come inside game cases!
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:32PM (Unverified) said

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Keep us posted, your stories are riveting.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:33PM (Unverified) said

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Saria, at first I thought that sounded super nerdy, but then I thought about it and the visual was cool. So...thanks for the visual, I guess.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:34PM (Unverified) said

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What's "paper"?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:37PM Saria the Cat said

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@Azerael:

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*blinky flashy lights*
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:38PM Typicalgamer said

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What are you, a girl??
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:43PM (Unverified) said

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*infomercial ad voice*

And if you act now, you get the Deluxe Saria Doll. Pull the string to get your favorite Saria posts!

*shows of doll*

Doll: I just organized all my books on the bookshelf according to their color in the ROYGBIV fashion last night.

Act quick as supplies are on high demand!!

*flashes doll on screen*
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:46PM (Unverified) said

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*Infomercial voice*

All this and more can be yours for 2 easy payments of $19.99 and one fucking-impossible-to-make payment of $14.99. Call 1-800-YoSaria NOW!
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 10:48PM Istari Spartan said

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... *still confused trying to figure out what books are*

Can i play them on live?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 11:29PM Sly C said

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sony boy, i guess it's time to have the talk with you. you see, men have a parasitic worm in between their legs. this makes men impure. there are these creatures called "women" who lack this worm, and therefore are pure. whenever a man sees an attractive "woman", the worm stretches itself out to make the woman impure. if this is done to an unwilling "woman", then the man can be put behind bars, or if the "woman" is too far away, the man feels horribly awkward. this is why we men wear pants. the pants help prevent the worm from sticking out, thus keeping us out of jail, and preventing us from feeling awkward in public.

i hope my lesson has enlightened you.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2009 11:41PM Saria the Cat said

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Wow, Sly, that was kind of creepy. :S
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