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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 4:47AM (Unverified) said

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"For DSi, the piracy is a lot less than on the normal DS,"

Oh bullshit. Gigantic steaming piles of bullshit. You can buy a card for the DSi that lets you pirate stuff just as easily as with the DSL and DS phat.

I'm really sick of suits leaping on the 'OMG PIRACY!!!! *sob* /wrists' excuse every time the market declines.

Know why the market is declining? Because these idiots insist on churning out shovel loads of crap that has to A) use some gimmick based on the DS mic and B) another gimmick based on the DS' touch screen.

I've put my DS in the back of the cupboard and haven't bought a game for it in months because of this. I've been playing my PSP a lot more because it's started to get decent, old skool video games on it.

As for piracy? Fooey. Stop using it as an excuse when your gimmicky shovelware doesn't sell.

While my friends and I all have easy access to pirated games, if a game is worth playing (and actually possible to buy), we pay for it. Period. I have a huge library of original games that I could have pirated, but I bought each and every one simply because it was a well made game.

So sick of these whiny suits.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:01AM (Unverified) said

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Exactly, want my money? Give me something worth buying. Besides Ubisoft usually puts out mediocre games at best, most of these companies are just out to make a quick buck because gaming is such an easy business to make money off apparently.

Half of these companies do some crappy job of using the DS touch screen, note, if you can't make it worth while, stop trying to release it.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:03AM calgaryaltahotmailcom said

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I agree and you have to remember the a lot of these "suits" are masters of disinformation and they wouldn't be doing their job properly if they weren't constantly spouting off piles of spin to cover up the fact they really are not producing a product that people are going to spend hard earned money on.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:17AM michaelwub said

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I somewhat disagree. I can understand that the dedicated gamers will see that in the long run piracy does more bad than good, but I was surprised when my casual gaming friends were talking to me about their pre-loaded flash carts. These guys don't see much wrong with what they're doing and whether a game is 'good' or not doesn't really matter. Once piracy becomes so easy that grandma can do it, then it becomes a worry.

I agree that a lot of games are crap though - did the suits complain this much about PS1 piracy?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 6:00AM (Unverified) said

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@Michael

"I can understand that the dedicated gamers will see that in the long run piracy does more bad than good, but I was surprised when my casual gaming friends were talking to me about their pre-loaded flash carts. These guys don't see much wrong with what they're doing and whether a game is 'good' or not doesn't really matter."

I agree with you here. I believe piracy is a societal problem, and not something that can be fixed with a tech remedy. It needs a social solution and that can start with us.

Start by setting an example to your friends, let them see you using original games even when you can get hold of pirated games.

Smack them upside the head and explain that if they want to keep playing games, the game companies need to keep making money off the industry, so support good games with your wallet.

Ultimately companies should be able to release a game with no DRM or other protection and they should still make the same amount of money. I know that will never happen, but it's the ideal we should be aiming for. Not tying a ball and chain to people in the hopes that they'll pay for our game because it's the only way they can get it.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 9:06AM (Unverified) said

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I heard that GTA on the DS sold pretty poorly, even with its high scores from reviewers. Games doesn't sell much on DS unless they have Mario in the title I guess.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 4:13PM Unvrfd said

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@Peter

On torrents it sold better than Dragon Quest.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 7:20PM Nightwish said

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And those gamers wouldn't be gamers without being able to pirate. I know a few people like that...

Besides, casuals aren't gamers either, so there's no problem? (tongue in cheek)
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:04AM (Unverified) said

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i really hate these raving rabbids its just something really unpleasant to look.
i miss the old rayman those were the good ol days.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:14AM Modulos said

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What's the first rabbit?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:55AM Unvrfd said

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Prince.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:33AM EMaster said

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Oh come on.... Look at these twats! "Our sales aren't declining due to the fact the games we make for the DS are shit! It's the pirates!". Stop making shitty games and that will increase your profits. Simple ass math. FYI there hasn't been a good DS game since Pokemon Platinum.... at least for me... unless of course you're into the "Imagine" series.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:41AM Clone TrooperTZ said

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Is funny how people says that piracy is not to blame and say "shitty" games are to blame but i bet they say "i'll not buy thids crap game", but download it anyway.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:53AM (Unverified) said

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@LM2007

If I download a game and find out it's so crap that I don't want to play it for more than 5 minutes, the only way a company would have made that money off of me, is if they conned me into buying their game first.

I've been screwed enough times with cooked reviews and media hype.

If hypothetically speaking I was to engage in piracy and download a game... if I played it for more than ten minutes, I'd buy the original (assuming it was freely available for purchase and still in production). If after five minutes I'm not interested in playing it any more, I delete it from my system and that's that. They would never have seen my money anyway.

I don't agree with nor support the second hand game industry because it screws game companies out of money, but in return, I make damned sure that when I pay for a game, it's one that is actually worth playing.

I work in the games industry and I know the shortcuts companies take to get a game into players hands before the player realizes what crap they've just bought.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 6:36AM EMaster said

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That's an oxymoron. Why would you pirate a shitty game? Why would you want to play a game, that is there in fact, to amuse you when it doesn't because it's terrible? Please explain that?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 7:18PM Nightwish said

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Because he doesn't know they suck.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:56AM Shinchi said

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Of course I'm not going to be buying a game if it's crap! But on occasion I may well download it to give it a test run. A few games have impressed me and I've gone out and bought the game. A few others have made me thank God! I didn't spend money on this. In fact the first one that springs to mind is none other than Splinter Cell on the PSP, I almost bought that dog awful pile of crap from Ubisoft. But clearly piracy is a massive issue for the DS as seen recently with the release of Dragon Quest IX in Japan.... oh no wait hang on! :S
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 7:18AM (Unverified) said

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I read it all, and only one sentence on the Rabbids. You got me really exited. But no more rabbids. *sigh*
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 7:42AM Clone TrooperTZ said

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Emaster, people that do that is the one that can explain, I don't have pirate games but have read a lot of people say or write that they have a pirated game in their psp even if they consider it shitty, that's the weird thing.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 8:22AM (Unverified) said

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Apart from the brilliant shovelware comment, diluting the market with 90% rubbish.

Maybe if they stopped ripping off European customers they would be more inclined to by games. Why must a new release for in say Denmark, cost me $120 and when I travel to the states, the same game for $60. Its not very different throughout the rest of Europe. People are pissed off with being fed all these rubbish, then being charged double for it.

Thank god my PS3 can play US games, I save a small fortune buying them from there. Having to only buy select multiplayer releases locally so I can play online with local friends.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 4:16PM Unvrfd said

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Fuck, Imagine series are around $140 here.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 8:37AM captcarl said

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I want those Rabbids.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 8:47AM (Unverified) said

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Just because it's not the main problem doesn't mean that:
PIRATING IS STEALING. DON'T PIRATE.

If you walked into a store, took a game off of the shelf without paying and played it, you stole it.
If you walked into a website, took a game off a internetz without paying and played it, you stole it.

I pirate games and play it as a demo, though, to see if it's worth buying.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 9:03AM ducttapeBigSexy said

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Then why not just play the demo? You don't even have to go that far for one - just scroll to the bottom of the page and click "Big Download".
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 11:05AM (Unverified) said

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Because clearly the DS games have a great habit of having demos released for you to try them out, amirite?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 2:14PM ducttapeBigSexy said

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Okay, I'll admit, I'm thinking demos for PC, 360, and PS3. But, at the same time, I'll argue that by buying a flash cart and downloading roms off the Internet (especially if you're using something like BitTorrent, since you're forced to share), you're still supporting piracy (or at least supporting things that are extremely close to it).

I'm also guessing that there's at least one rom in your collection that you gladly would have paid for, but you just never "got around" to buying.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 7:23PM Nightwish said

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You deal with absolutes, and then fail to live up to them. My God, man, how can you sleep at night?!?!?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 9:05AM ducttapeBigSexy said

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"The PSP has always been a machine with lots of piracy, so it's a machine we were not developing too much on because it was pirated."

So why does Ubisoft continue to release almost every one of their big titles on PC?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 10:52AM Mr Khan said

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Piracy can't possibly be that great a share of the market. It just seems impossible
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 11:21AM irken004 said

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Both of those publishers suck at making high-quality games anyway, imo
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 12:29PM mcnerven said

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Everyone thinks piracy is the result of there not being any good games to buy, when in fact there aren't any good games to buy *because* of piracy. Currently, per NPD statistics, piracy accounts for roughly 1/3 of the entire industry at ~$3 billion in the US alone.

Put on your CEO hats for a second, which I know is difficult at first, but stick with me...

If you're the CEO of a publishing or development studio, why would you sink loads of cash into a high quality product that isn't going to net any revenue for the organization (see GTA Chinatown Wars)? Sure, companies have a responsibility to make fun games that people care about, but a business's primary responsibility is to drive revenue so that they can afford the best programmers, developers, studios, etc. Not only in salary, but in benefits that will attract and retain those individuals such as health care, vacation time, etc. True making games people care about should beget the latter statement, but due to piracy those developers don't see a bonus, monetary or otherwise, for their efforts.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 7:25PM Nightwish said

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And yet, the market continues to grow.
Here's a hint, spending 60 million making a game is not innovation. Nintendo gets it.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 4:30PM Extinction said

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If they wanted to end piracy, they'd only develop for PS3. And boost it's sales as a result.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2009 5:53PM (Unverified) said

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Drop the goddamn Rabbids FFS!!!!!!
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Posted: Jul 30th 2009 5:42PM (Unverified) said

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When was the last time Ubisoft and THQ published a worthwhile DS game? Probably 2006 (Lost Magic). I hate how they whine that DS sales are down and it's piracy's fault when they only produce awful stereotypical crap (Imagine, Babyz, ect.) I think the little girls have already tried their crap by now and released it sucks and that's why sales have fallen. Poor Ubi, now your actually going to have to put in effort to sell your games.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2009 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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realised, not released -_____-
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