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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:05PM (Unverified) said

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l love you Playstation/Sony
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 11:19PM (Unverified) said

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Sony always releasing false sales numbers for their consoles? They always try to tell the public that the number of units they've shipped worldwide is the number of installed base units worldwide.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 11:39PM PN04 said

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I do believe you've just corrected.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 11:43PM PN04 said

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Been... dammit
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 11:51PM Master Spice said

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EnRique, How can you possibly prove that?
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 12:02AM spyyder said

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I believe it was MS that was counting replaced consoles as units sold. Some people have gone through 3+ units from RROD. Very deceptive of MS. It is what we have all come to expect from a company that cares more about market share than consumer experience.
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 2:31AM dartmerc said

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Sony started quoting units sold as units actually reaching consumers (rather than just retailers) with the launch of the PS3.
The other console manufactures still consider units to retailer as units sold.
So eNrique was correct - pity he's unable to elegantly state his point.
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 6:22AM Premature ejaculation man said

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Are there sources to back up any of these claims? While I'm sure its the case, I just like facts more than what commenters tell me.
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 10:25AM (Unverified) said

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Well said, spyder.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:05PM Obienator said

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Wait, so despite the lower price point and head start the Xbox only have 4 mil. units more out there? Hmmmm.

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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:09PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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careful....you are giving the trolls food....lol...

they will come back with "its now 30 million 360's" etc....blah blah blah....lol

refuse to notice that the PS3 will EASILY overtake the 360 once a price drop comes along....lol
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:13PM SheppyReturns said

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Easily is debatable. Keep in mind 360 is going into the holiday strong and Sony is still relying on first party IP, which hasn't done well for them since Crash bandicoot.

IF they can drop the price, they may have a chance to win holiday against the 360, in the US. Worldwide it's already been won. But NOTHING is easily done even with a price drop.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:14PM Obienator said

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It's just interesting, I mean if the PS3 slim comes out for $299 this Holiday season, call me a new PS3 owner.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:17PM (Unverified) said

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Sheppy, why are you such a 360 fanboy?
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:17PM (Unverified) said

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@AggieYou hit the nail on the head the trolls on this site are disgraceful
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:19PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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FF13 comes out in Japan the Christmas....the DEMO Moved PS3 units alone.....what do you think the GAME will do?? And I've said it B4 the 360 is soon to hit its saturation point. As it doesnt appeal to Soccer moms & 50+ year olds like the Wii OR to Audiophiles like the PS3 which is arguably the BEST Blu-ray player on the market for under $400...making it $299 will make even MORE people who were trying to Decide between the Standalone Sammy BD player for $350 and the PS3 which ALSO plays games for $50 less.....
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:22PM (Unverified) said

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There's hardly any good flame wars anymore that aren't started by me, and sometimes you just want to jump in one instead of starting it :\
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:23PM (Unverified) said

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I wonder what the *REAL* amount of 360s that have exchanged hands have been. My buddy is on his 5th and is no longer sending them back because it's 5-6 weeks to get it from repair, so he just buys a new one.

Oh snap, did I just go there?

But seriously. I've hated Microsoft since before the Xbox came out, yet after the demo video of the chick doing martial arts moves with the mech. That was kinda neat at the time.

Will be interested to see what happens to the PS3 price point come fall. Sony vehemently defends the current price point (wouldn't they all, though? It still needs an official announcement before a marketing blitz), but it was also recently learned that manufacturing cost has dropped 70% from when PS3s were first manufactured. They're now making profit on each unit sold, and could still make profit on each unit sold if they dropped it $100 instead of just $50.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:31PM Sly C said

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@AggieYou hit the nail on the head the trolls on this site are disgraceful

it's insanely ironic that a guy named 'UltimatePs3FANBOY' said that.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:32PM Haggard said

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I think it's tmac's alternate account, doing more 'research' :P
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:36PM Marius said

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So we all agree the PS3 will overtake the 360 after a price cut, ok then
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:36PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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nah Lucambe isnt Tmac...lol...I have Lucambe on my PSN friends list....
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:39PM Mr Khan said

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The lead is closer to 7 million, and most likely more. At the absolute minimum, the lead is 6 million, since it was reported that the 360 surpassed the 2600 (which is known to have sold 30 million).

According to VGC, the lead is over 8 million, but it has PS3 about a million behind what this story says, of course these numbers are probably shipment numbers
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:41PM Marius said

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Sony counts real sales, MS and Nintendo count shipped numbers
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:45PM Mr Khan said

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You have that backwards. Nintendo's the one that reports sold numbers when possible (or at least specifies shipped v. sold in reports). Not sure what Microsoft does, but Sony's claimed shipped numbers for quite some time
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:52PM Marius said

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well if your were to follow the link it tells you how much Sony has sold compare to how many console MS and Nintendo have shipped
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 11:04PM Obienator said

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Aiiieee! My inbox!

But hey, I say the more people play videogames they better. No matter what console.

One of us! One of us!
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 11:17PM R Planteer said

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If you assume that zero xbox 360s have been sold since january 26, then yes Obie, your comment would be correct.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 11:47PM SheppyReturns said

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Actually, Mr. Kahn, you're running off three years too late info. When Howard Stringer took over, that was one of the first things he changed in the fiscal reports and these ARE fiscal reports. Microsoft counts shipped to a distrobution center and Nintendo still largely counts solld to retailers.

Stringer believed "shipped to stores" didn't tell an accurate number. So in the fiscal reports, like these are, tells the sell-through at retail. Not just sold to retail. These numbers are particularly important in the fact that they want to know how many systems they have to flush out of the channel before the slim comes along.... supposedly.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 11:47PM User Formerly Known as Dave said

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There are probably a lot of people out there looking forward to playing Rage at 15fps.
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 12:43AM incendious said

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^ Ewww. Way to blow your fanboy load with that comment. Rage isn't even out yet and Carmack has stated he's planning to get all versions to run at 60fps with some consistency. Yeah, in the industry we tend to listen to the established experts like Carmack than the fanboys who take a piece of his comment out of context and try to pass it off as fact.
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 1:08AM (Unverified) said

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for correctness :)

from the article:

"the Xbox 360 hit 28 million users earlier this year"
if you click on joystiq's link it takes you to the article which states the 360 hit 28 million around January 6, 2009, about 8 months ago.

so if you want to think the 360 has a 4 million console gap lead by comparing January 6, 2009 figures to August 3, 2009 articles then so be it, but you are not even close.

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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 1:11AM (Unverified) said

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and for the other wrong comments:

SONY ONLY GOES BY SHIPPED CONSOLES.
(once sony has shipped a console from their factories to market, the console has already been sold according to their accounting system.

if you peek or read their shareholder accounting reports (which are made public, and ready to view online) you would realize how wrong you are.

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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 1:17AM (Unverified) said

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and for other wrong comments:

who really believes that sony will release a $ 299 slim ps3 this year or soon ??

the psp go is said to be releasing at $ 250, costs less than a psp to manufacture and you believe that a slim ps3 will be sold to us for $ 299 ???

is there any blu ray player that retails for $ 299 or less ?? why assume a slim will be cheaper if the psp go is going to be $ 250 ??
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and a ps3 price drop will be followed by a 360 price drop if needed, which last i saw the last ps3 price drop had no impact on closing the console gap lead after MS dropped the 360 price.

its ok to say the ps3 is a great console and whatever...
but to make up and believe lies is blah..

fanboy crashing rant done.
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 1:57AM DrunkRaba said

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@ sk8monroe81

There are several Blu-ray players retailing below $300 and many at or close to $200
http://gizmodo.com/5093230/dealzmodo-15-cheap-blu+ray-players-as-low-as-200

And as you stated, prior to Microsoft dropping their price, after the first price drop on the PS3, the PS3 WAS steadily closing in on the 360 by about 70-100K world-wide per month. That pretty much turned the opposite once Microsoft did their drop.
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 2:06AM (Unverified) said

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good points.
but u think a slim would be $ 299?
when a go may be $ 250?

go = 16gb, no disc drive, single analog stick, great gaming machine, but no computer by any means in the box, cost less than a psp to manufacture ($ 100+), etc....
ps3 = 100+ gb now, blu ray drive, full computer in a box pretty much, controller, still cost more than $ 250 to manufacture, etc.....
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 8:44PM (Unverified) said

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sk8 your the biggest 360 fanboy of them all. Why do you pretend to have a ps3 ? why do you even bother ? Take the microsoft cock out of your mouth man, it really doesnt look good and it smells even worse..
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 11:40PM OZJD said

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sc00by_y00

Fan boy or not he makes some good points. Care to discuss them? No? Sorry I forgot fanboi rule number 1)Play the man not the ball.

Maybe he'll take the Microsoft's dick out of his mouth when you take Sony's cock out of you arse.
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Posted: Aug 5th 2009 8:26PM (Unverified) said

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Discuss what points exactly ? does he care to validate any of his points with some solid fact rather than talking crap as usual ?

I suggest you take his cock out of your ass before you start commenting.

FYI I give dont take :)
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Posted: Aug 19th 2009 4:59PM (Unverified) said

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aus_jd if you read this just wanted to say..

What were SK8Monroe points exactly ? does he care to validate any of his points with some solid fact rather than talking crap as usual ?

We now know the ps3 slim will be released and the ps3 has a $299 price point. All of his claims turn out to be bullshit.. As I said sk8monroe is just a massive clueless Microsoft fanboy/shill.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:06PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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Price drop by October and it will hit 32-35 million by January(globally of course)
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:15PM Obienator said

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$299 PS3 slim and they have a deal.
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:19PM Marius said

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and with GOW3, GT5, FF13, you can add 6 mil.
Dont forget FF13 is coming out in Japan this holiday
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:27PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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yea I know FF13 will sell PS3s in Japan...the demo ALONE made the PS3 OUTSELL the WII!!!
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 1:36AM fanandualum said

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omg i love ps3 i think i'll go buy another one just to help out the cause!!! and when the slim comes out i'll buy that one too because i freggin love playstation!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 5:39AM Top Cat said

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and because you have more moeny than sense?
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 8:10AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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I'm getting another PS3 when the price drops...most likely wont buy another after that until they hit $199 in like 2014
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Posted: Aug 4th 2009 5:30PM Jae Brav said

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Do you ever take your dick out of your PS3?
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:09PM (Unverified) said

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Is this even news even idiots catch at some point Sony rules the gaming industry once people accept that then the choice becomes clear PS3 reigns supreme
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Posted: Aug 3rd 2009 10:11PM FNG said

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can you repeat the part about the part?
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