If you were running about the Capital Wasteland in Fallout 3 or tossing hadoukens in Street Fighter IV on your PC recently, you may have noticed a Games For Windows Live update. Microsoft reports the new update is now available, which adds the Marketplace, anti-piracy measures and a host of other new features to the PC suite. Congrats, Microsoft! You've finally turned our PCs into Xbox 360s!
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:16PM dork said
i must be the only one who still loves GFW, i hope they release more games like Dawn of War with achievements exclusive to PC. Anyone know of any?
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:28PM Ballistic H said
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:44PM FredFredrickson said
Eh, I kinda like it too. I think it's neat to be able to access your friends / achievements via Windows games.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:20PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said
Bout dang time Microsoft! Though not as robust as Steam, GFW is coming along quite nicely.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:27PM (Unverified) said
Not coming along as nicely as my facial hair, Planet!
So even!
So full!
And my clothes! So starched!
So crisp!
So fitting!
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So even!
So full!
And my clothes! So starched!
So crisp!
So fitting!
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:32PM (Unverified) said
if by "facial hair" you mean your douchestrap, then yes, that is coming along nicely
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:34PM (Unverified) said
LOL Moptimus, is that your pic on your avatar?
If so, I'd kick my own ass every morning before I left home.
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If so, I'd kick my own ass every morning before I left home.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:41PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said
I have a strict policy about not feeding trolls, douchie trolls, Nintendoits, douchie Nintendoit trolls and douchie Nintendoit trolls with douchie facial hair.
And now I have a policy for not feeding douchie Nintendoit trolls with douchie facial hair and general overall doucheness and shit baggery antics.
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And now I have a policy for not feeding douchie Nintendoit trolls with douchie facial hair and general overall doucheness and shit baggery antics.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 3:01PM (Unverified) said
I love how even though I've explained it numerous times, have an explanation of it in my title, had her royal highness Queen Justin the Muffin-Topped explain it when he gave me my B-b-b-b-brush With Fame (episode 82 (Ultrastiq Edition), 1:25:55 in), people still ask "HEY IS THAT REALLY YOU?!?!?!"
http://images.google.com/images?pws=0&q=Griffin%20McElroy&um=1&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
hmmmmmmm, that first image looks strangely familiar....
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http://images.google.com/images?pws=0&q=Griffin%20McElroy&um=1&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
hmmmmmmm, that first image looks strangely familiar....
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:21PM Maulok said
No idea why, but when I bought Gears of War for my PC, I couldn't get GFWL to work for anything. I couldn't register or play online. Since they I have been 100% Steam for PC gaming, and consoles for the rest.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:21PM (Unverified) said
Honestly, I think the games from GFW should just be moved to Steam.
Won't ever happen, but people can dream...
Won't ever happen, but people can dream...
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 7:04PM TwistedBishop said
The GFW games (Dawn of War 2, GTA4, Fallout 3, Quantum of Solace, Street Fighter 4, etc) are already on Steam.
What this update does is make GFW *more* like Steam. It allows developers to tie games to a gamertag like Steam ties games to your account, meaning install limits and other intrusive methods of DRM are gone. The unfortunate thing is that you can't run GFW-Live enabled games in an offline mode for singeplayer like you can with Steam. At least I can't with Dawn of War 2.
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What this update does is make GFW *more* like Steam. It allows developers to tie games to a gamertag like Steam ties games to your account, meaning install limits and other intrusive methods of DRM are gone. The unfortunate thing is that you can't run GFW-Live enabled games in an offline mode for singeplayer like you can with Steam. At least I can't with Dawn of War 2.
Posted: Aug 7th 2009 2:25AM seriousam7 said
Fallout 3 works offline. You can be signed into your gamertag, get achievements, etc.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:25PM StormEagle said
So....who wants to buy (or build) me a new gaming PC....?
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:27PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said
I'll build you one, but I don't think you can PayPal "Dutch Rudders".
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 6:10PM Shagittarius said
I want to know what it is but I'm at work and afraid to search for it...
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 7:15PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said
You will be presently surprised Shag...
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:54PM incendious said
Get Blizzard games working with Games for Windows Live and I may be interested. Otherwise I doubt I'd buy PC games just because it had this service. I used it for Fallout 3, but hated having to log in just to play a single player game.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:27PM leksicon said
Too bad you can't scale the damn thing.. Sitting on the couch playing at 1920x1200 on the big screen, you have to walk right up to the screen to read the GFW overlay..
It's not bad but it's got a ways yet.
It's not bad but it's got a ways yet.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:28PM ScottG13 said
How about an expansion for Dawn of War 2?!?!
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 7:05PM TwistedBishop said
It came out six months ago!
On a separate but related topic....For the Greater Good!
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On a separate but related topic....For the Greater Good!
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:31PM kenshinelite said
I just wish some games on PC would be able to play xbox players and vice versa. With all that xbox data transmitted to my PC so I can play games on both.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 3:14PM (Unverified) said
They tried with Shadowrun. But the game didn't catch on, so they haven't tried since then. I heard they tweaked the control (made it clumsier) of the PC version to even out the odds against xbox 360 players. That's a problem they've got to solve for future cross-platform games.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 6:12PM Shagittarius said
The problem with Shadow Run was, A) The game was ok but short on content. and B) They handicapped PC players so badly in an attempt to even the playing field most of the skill and advantages of playing with a mouse and keyboard were lost...and thus it was frustrating.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:32PM Ballistic H said
GFWL is worth nothing if you don't keep supporting it with your own games: not releasing Gears of War 2 on PC and Alan Wake is in doubt for a PC version. It is now basically supported by a couple of third-party games.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:46PM FredFredrickson said
Neither Gears of War 2 or Alan Wake were made by Microsoft. They are both developed by third parties.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 3:14PM DangerMouse001 said
True, but their publishing is heavily influenced by Microsoft, if not controlled by them. They won't come to the PC because Microsoft finally realized that it does more harm than good to have the games released on both. I don't have an 360, and part of the reason was that many of the games that i was interested in were announced for the PC, too. I not the only one who feels that way, and i don't think MS are too thrilled about that. That may change in due time, but not while the 360 is still thriving.
With that said, i find GFWL to be extremely bare. I only have Gears of War, and it's nice to have the achievements and such, but the marketplace doesn't do anything for me. Now if they opened the marketplace to sell full version games or put up demos of them, it would make far more interesting, but it would take a lot of resources to go up against the other DD service, especially Steam.
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With that said, i find GFWL to be extremely bare. I only have Gears of War, and it's nice to have the achievements and such, but the marketplace doesn't do anything for me. Now if they opened the marketplace to sell full version games or put up demos of them, it would make far more interesting, but it would take a lot of resources to go up against the other DD service, especially Steam.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 3:44PM RKN said
Ridiculous for Microsoft to feel that way. Many gamers are primarily or only 360 or PC gamers. I am unlikely to purchase a 360 to play some of its exclusive games, just release them for Windows and I will happily purchase them. Its not like Microsoft desperately needs to get more 360 sales, they are doing just fine in sales with many of their purchasers being console gamers only.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 4:46PM Duscrom said
Well, let's do some market research Shall we?
Gears of War 1 on Xbox 360 gained many GotY awards, sold millions of copies, and the gamers praise the game for it's technical prowess, and engadging story line.
On the PC, the game sold thousands of copies at best, as gamers cited the reason was they thought the game was "boring".
The market doesn't seem to want a sequel, why waste the time, money and rescources in building one?
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Gears of War 1 on Xbox 360 gained many GotY awards, sold millions of copies, and the gamers praise the game for it's technical prowess, and engadging story line.
On the PC, the game sold thousands of copies at best, as gamers cited the reason was they thought the game was "boring".
The market doesn't seem to want a sequel, why waste the time, money and rescources in building one?
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 4:50PM RKN said
You make a point Duscrom, but porting Gears of War 2 to the PC should not be difficult, due to it using the Unreal Engine 3 engine. It shouldn't take too long and be too costly and even if it doesn't sell millions on the PC, they should be able to make a profit on it.
Its a shame, I'd like to play it on the PC with better graphics, keyboard and mouse option and mod support. : (
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Its a shame, I'd like to play it on the PC with better graphics, keyboard and mouse option and mod support. : (
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 7:13PM Unknown said
One of the main reason why Gears 1 wasn't praised for either gameplay or graphics was because it was released so late for the PC. At that time, the PC should be capable of doing much more that what an old X360 title can do.
The fact that Gears 1 PC also didn't really include anything new besides a few single player mission only made it more clear that it is nothing but a port of a X360 game (a long delayed port at that). If both Gears 1 was release on both PC and X360 at the same time, the sale figures for the PC should be better.
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The fact that Gears 1 PC also didn't really include anything new besides a few single player mission only made it more clear that it is nothing but a port of a X360 game (a long delayed port at that). If both Gears 1 was release on both PC and X360 at the same time, the sale figures for the PC should be better.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 7:17PM TwistedBishop said
Wasn't Gears of War a mess on PC? I recall a lot of complaints over it.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:33PM Gel214th said
Kinda sucks, since Windows Live enabled games make it a lot more difficult to use Single Player trainers, which many people use to complete or just have fun.
Yeah yeah yeah...neener neener cheater cheater. F***k it . If I spend my money on a game, I want to be able to finish it. I had TONS of fun in Wolverine, and when I got stuck because I'm a Lam3r I used a trainer and got past that point and played through.
It was one of the most fun Action gaming experiences I've had in a long time.
Now compare that with Infamous, where I'm stuck on a critical mission and haven't played it in a month.
I'm totally against trainers and cheats in MULTIPLAYER. And if you want to stop me gaining achievement points in singleplayer I'm quite ok with that as well.
In fact, give me the option of playing with or without this Microsoft Live stuff which slows down the launching of a singleplayer game and I'd be even happier.
Yeah yeah yeah...neener neener cheater cheater. F***k it . If I spend my money on a game, I want to be able to finish it. I had TONS of fun in Wolverine, and when I got stuck because I'm a Lam3r I used a trainer and got past that point and played through.
It was one of the most fun Action gaming experiences I've had in a long time.
Now compare that with Infamous, where I'm stuck on a critical mission and haven't played it in a month.
I'm totally against trainers and cheats in MULTIPLAYER. And if you want to stop me gaining achievement points in singleplayer I'm quite ok with that as well.
In fact, give me the option of playing with or without this Microsoft Live stuff which slows down the launching of a singleplayer game and I'd be even happier.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:45PM FredFredrickson said
What is the point of playing a game if you're going to use a trainer?
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Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:49PM CyberKnight said
"Congrats, Microsoft! You've finally turned our PCs into Xbox 360s!"
Yarite. When I can send/receive voice messages or chat in a party with my friends on their Xbox 360 from my PC desktop without having to launch a game to do it, then we'll talk. :P
Yarite. When I can send/receive voice messages or chat in a party with my friends on their Xbox 360 from my PC desktop without having to launch a game to do it, then we'll talk. :P
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:53PM pedasn said
GREAT!!!
So where's the update that doesn't make my pc hang up, everytime i wanna play GTA IV or DAWN of WAR II. GFWL is the constant in this equation.
So where's the update that doesn't make my pc hang up, everytime i wanna play GTA IV or DAWN of WAR II. GFWL is the constant in this equation.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 2:54PM Gaming Expert said
I'll just stick to my 360 for most of my gaming needs, PC is dead to me.
Posted: Aug 6th 2009 6:02PM Alex R said
Yeah but Nerdy, why don't you sell it and get a Blu-Ray player?
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/-/836/1052/-/9481384/Samsung-BD-P1600-Blu-ray-Player/Product.html?searchtype=genre
You'll probably have to put about £60 towards it, though.
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http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/-/836/1052/-/9481384/Samsung-BD-P1600-Blu-ray-Player/Product.html?searchtype=genre
You'll probably have to put about £60 towards it, though.
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