RPG Risen has been refused classification by Australia's OFLC, meaning it can't be sold at retail on the continent. Kotaku was informed by the game's Aussie distributor that the board was concerned by "sexual activity and drug use related to incentives or rewards." Ignore the fact that both of those concepts are directly related to teaching children how to succeed in business.
Why are we talking about children? Well, it's because Australia only rates games that are appropriate for children 15-years-old and younger. The US's ESRB summary of Risen notes that sex is implied but never depicted, while "wood reefer" can be bought, sold and used. That sounds a lot like high school.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 6:35PM (Unverified) said
Man, Australia's run by a bunch of pussies. Like 15 year olds don't already know about drugs and sex.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:24PM (Unverified) said
With their cencorship, its funny thinking about an Australian guy having sex for the first time..
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 9:18PM LuTon James said
It's a bloody outrage. We get the shaft enough in gaming with taxes and the good stuff that doesn't come to pal territories. I'm an adult and I should have the right to decide if I want to play a game that features mature content. The OFLC make my blood boil. Probably want to censor GoW 3.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 6:38PM The Wicker Man said
If there is one thing flight of the conchords has taught me it is that Australia is full of jerks.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 6:40PM (Unverified) said
Australians are like "Where's the cah?", and New Zealanders are like "Where's the cah."
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 12:08AM (Unverified) said
I heard Australian women like to lure sailors into drowning themselves.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 6:38AM EngadgetSoFunny said
I heard Autralian women can drink American Men under the table since they drink real beer like the beer made in Australia or Canada. Not the watered down American beer.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 6:40PM ScoobyMaroon said
What's it going to take to get the equivalent of an M rating for games in Australia? I've been hearing about things like this for years and everyone always mentions that Australia's rating system only goes up to age 15 but I'm curious if anybody is actually trying to do something about it.
I know nothing of how the Australian government works but it seems like there's gotta be enough gamers in Australia and enough data about the average age of gamers and what not that if you could just get the idea of an M rating in front of a decision maker they'd pretty much have to add one, right?
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I know nothing of how the Australian government works but it seems like there's gotta be enough gamers in Australia and enough data about the average age of gamers and what not that if you could just get the idea of an M rating in front of a decision maker they'd pretty much have to add one, right?
Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:13PM dartmerc said
There is more or less one dude standing in the way of us getting an R18+ rating - Michael Atkinson, the South Australian attorney general.
To put it short, the attorney generals from each state/territory must unanimously vote to allow the change, and the Atkinson seems to be the only one really opposed.
He uses all the usual 'protect the children' and double standards between video games and other entertainment to support his case. The worst part is, he has even attempted to stop the classification issue coming up on the agenda, just in case peer pressure from the other AT's were to break his resolve.
A plug, but I've written about it on my blog in the past: http://ihavetheprincess.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/australian-r18-classification-talks-canned/
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To put it short, the attorney generals from each state/territory must unanimously vote to allow the change, and the Atkinson seems to be the only one really opposed.
He uses all the usual 'protect the children' and double standards between video games and other entertainment to support his case. The worst part is, he has even attempted to stop the classification issue coming up on the agenda, just in case peer pressure from the other AT's were to break his resolve.
A plug, but I've written about it on my blog in the past: http://ihavetheprincess.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/australian-r18-classification-talks-canned/
Posted: Aug 11th 2009 6:42PM (Unverified) said
Yeah, really.
It's like trying to incentivize having a lot of money.
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It's like trying to incentivize having a lot of money.
Posted: Aug 11th 2009 6:42PM The Blank Mage Returns said
I like to imagine Australia as eventually becoming a kind of "Fahrenheit 451" kind of thing, but for video games. Merciless authority cracking down on smuggled copies of Crackdown, etc.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:01PM (Unverified) said
Haha, you really told the Xbox360 game Fable a thing or two! ................... lol
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:02PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said
If they don't have sex in Australia, THEN WHERE THE HELL DID YVONNE STRAHOVSKI COME FROM?!
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:06PM (Unverified) said
"...sexual activity and drug use related to incentives or rewards."
Wait, does Australia censor half of television programming as well?
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Wait, does Australia censor half of television programming as well?
Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:27PM ArchiGamer said
Funny, this coming from an island that was once populated with prisoners.
Funny how things change.
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Funny how things change.
Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:52PM (Unverified) said
Actually, Australia's game rating system has "MA 15+" as its highest category - this maxes out to age *17* as the next-highest ratings category is "R", which covers 18 and up. So the current Australian system actually rates games to a ceiling age of 17 years, 11 months and 30-odd days. :-)
Yes, it's pretty insipid that there's still a prevailing assumption amongst some Australian legislators that video games are for kids - but let's also remember that it's only the Attorney-General of South Australia that's holding up the process. And as he's an elected member of parliament, it's not like he'll be in the job forever...
Oh, and "sting" -- Australian free-to-air TV has approximately 13 channels these days, including networks that happily show movies featuring violence, full-frontal nudity, coarse-language and what-not... plenty of which wouldn't get a look-in on their U.S. equivalents. The reason that Australians are pretty peeved about the video games rating issue is that it's in *exception* to the system in place for movies and television.
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Yes, it's pretty insipid that there's still a prevailing assumption amongst some Australian legislators that video games are for kids - but let's also remember that it's only the Attorney-General of South Australia that's holding up the process. And as he's an elected member of parliament, it's not like he'll be in the job forever...
Oh, and "sting" -- Australian free-to-air TV has approximately 13 channels these days, including networks that happily show movies featuring violence, full-frontal nudity, coarse-language and what-not... plenty of which wouldn't get a look-in on their U.S. equivalents. The reason that Australians are pretty peeved about the video games rating issue is that it's in *exception* to the system in place for movies and television.
Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:57PM TheDarkWayne said
I doubt this game would have sold a lot anyway. Looks an awful lot like Two Worlds imo, however I'm hopefully optimistic because it actually sounds really good, guess we just gotta wait
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 7:58PM MaliceMajorE15 said
dunno if anyone has seen this weeks EpicBattleCry, they talk abit about australia and the potential ban on all violent games in germany
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 9:17PM (Unverified) said
If that guy was hitting Indians rather than gremlins, they wouldn't have a problem with it.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 9:45PM OZJD said
Oh nice one Ben. Australians have a thing against Indians now do they? WTF?
You must have been reading reports of Indian students being targeted and bashed in Sydney..ROTFLMAO
I spend a lot of time in the area where the violence was supposed to have taken place in Sydney....and I like many others simple haven't seen this so called problem.
A few Indian students, like a few non indian, non students, were mugged. The local police originally said they were signled out because they are seen as soft targets, because of their travel habits (late at night, alone, carrying a laptop copmuter, obvious Ipod/Iphone).
So don't believe the hysteria surrounding this issue. It is indeed WAY overblown.
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You must have been reading reports of Indian students being targeted and bashed in Sydney..ROTFLMAO
I spend a lot of time in the area where the violence was supposed to have taken place in Sydney....and I like many others simple haven't seen this so called problem.
A few Indian students, like a few non indian, non students, were mugged. The local police originally said they were signled out because they are seen as soft targets, because of their travel habits (late at night, alone, carrying a laptop copmuter, obvious Ipod/Iphone).
So don't believe the hysteria surrounding this issue. It is indeed WAY overblown.
Posted: Aug 11th 2009 11:08PM (Unverified) said
I was joking. I have Australian friends and know that you're a peaceful nation that doesn't hate anybody. Except them bloody Aborigines.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2009 11:57PM (Unverified) said
Please, as an Australian...can we do anything about this malarki. It's getting ridiculous.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 6:39AM EngadgetSoFunny said
Totally, cause once you have lots of money you can be like Donald Trump and hire escorts.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 6:40AM EngadgetSoFunny said
Joystiq, your reply system sucks. This comment was meant in reply to the reply to 'Sex is its own reward' up above.
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