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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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THAT'S SO GAY.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:35PM Mr Awesomer said

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"That's so gay" has nothing to do with homosexuality.
That said, this ad campaign is so gay.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:37PM mr nimblewick said

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Except for the word used. And the general feeling behind it on the part of the people who use it.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:43PM RobS the 3rd said

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didn't gay once mean happy? So people are actually saying "That's so happy."
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:44PM (Unverified) said

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Easy for you to say, but you're not gay, I'm assuming, so naturally, it wouldn't bother you.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:46PM Mr Awesomer said

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In this expression "gay" is interchangeable with "lame." People have much more... let's say "colorful" expressions when they are truly being hateful towards homosexuals.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:49PM Neebs said

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I'm straight, and I realize the consequences of the expression.
It's incorrect usage because it equates 'gay' with stupid.' If we continue to perpetuate this equation, discrimination will not stop.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:49PM Triblade101 said

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@Rob
Last time I checked, I'm pretty sure gay did still mean happy. I don't think anything's changed.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:51PM Mirhderer said

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So does that mean a "gay" person is a "lame" person, and you don't see how that can be offensive?
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:00PM Neebs said

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Apparently, Joystiq is disappointed in hoping that many gamers are not homophobes, judging by the shade of my comment.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:02PM Wiizer said

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Well, I'm just gonna go around and say, "That's so NIG**R!"

"That's so NIG**R!" It has NOTHING to do with race, it's that guy, he's acting SO NIG**Rish!
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:11PM mirage said

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For all of you out there just throwing around the word "lame", it is a derogatory word towards people with disabilities and you need to stop using it. Every time you "That's so lame" you are offending people with disabilities.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:21PM (Unverified) said

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@Neebs

That's the thing, the only people who equate it with "gay is lame" are people like you. So, if you guys get the stick out of your asses and lighten up, then there would be a lot less discrimination.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:22PM anoffday said

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I don't understand why this is on joystiq anyway. So they say gamer in it? That's it? That's all it takes to be news on joystiq?
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:24PM War Machine said

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To prevent confusion, I usually write "ghey" when I mean to say something is "lame", "uninteresting" or "unfortunate"; and "gay" for homosexuality in general.

There's no difference when spoken, but the inflection is usually enough to note the difference.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:37PM Monkeydog said

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I think if people stopped considering everything ever said as an insult to them, and not just people with a weak lexicon just expressing feelings, there would be a lot less discrimination. A lot of people who do in fact use the word "gay" to mean lame don't have anything against gay people, and most gay people I know don't care (and in fact use it in the same way most kids use it).

I think it comes down to people need to stop bitching and making people feel bad for using a word. And hell, if someone is using it in a discriminatory way, what exactly does it matter? Sure they're wrong, but don't we all believe in free speech and being able to speak our minds? No good comes from just keeping everything bottled up inside.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:43PM (Unverified) said

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Two of my best friends are homosexual and they say "that's gay" all the time. It is slang and has nothing to do with being degrading to a group of people. It means lame, stupid, whatever you want it to mean. Just like gay use to mean happy, then was adopted by a community to mean homosexual it has evolved into a generic insult. The means as to which it became a generic insult for those with the proper vocabulary to express their feeling of distaste for something may have been in prejudice but now it is simply a basic insult. If they wanted to stop the evolution of the definition of gay they should have done so over a decade ago, it’s far too late now.

This campaign is so gay.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:43PM Roto13 said

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""That's so gay" has nothing to do with homosexuality."

You need to stop for a second and think about where the phrase comes from.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:44PM (Unverified) said

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for those without*
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 11:22PM DBuckEye said

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I don't get why they're replacing an adjective with nouns. That's so beautiful. That's so Megan Fox. One of these sentences is not grammatically correct.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 11:33PM (Unverified) said

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@DBuck_Eye

Uhh....... blame famous literature. People have done this for hundreds of years. You should read more.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 12:27AM Crono141 said

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Funny, because if you say something sucks, people who enjoying sucking penis's don't get offended. Why then is "gay" in "That's so gay" so offensive?

Oh, right, because people who suck dick never formed a unified support group and community, painting themselves as victims of a "suckophobic" and bigoted society. Right. Nevermind.

...

Perhaps if people didn't identify themselves by their sexuality they wouldn't have half the problems with bigots and homophobes that they do.

Proceed with downvoting!!!!!
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 1:00AM Hardcore1 said

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Hey everyone, the word "Awesome" shall now and forever only be used to refer to Hardcore's awesomeness. All other uses of this word will now be considered taboo and strictly prohibited.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 1:19AM melloncollie128 said

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@ Crono
You do realize a person's sexual orientation is a large part of who they are, right? Homosexuals have faced prosecution, hate, bigotry, violence, and so much more for just being homosexual. It's not them that needs to change, it's the ones who hate them for 'going against their values'. So your request for homosexuals to 'lighten up' is ridiculous as well as insulting.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 1:36AM mr nimblewick said

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I had no idea there were so many Michael Scotts in the world.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 3:26AM Mouthsmasher said

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We need to bring back "the closet."
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 8:00AM (Unverified) said

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@Crono

How do you measure if someone is "identifying themselves by their sexuality"? If they hold hands with a same-sex person? If a gay person tells their friends and family that they are in love? If they realize that gays have faced a history of bigotry, persecution and violence and are brave enough to try and make a change? Is that "identifying yourself by your sexuality"? Or is it just being a person who is gay?

Now, when someone targets a gay couple's house by spray painting a swastika on their garage door, are they "identifying" those people by their sexuality? When the large number of gay bashings take place across this country every week, are the perpetrators "identifying" their victims by their sexuality?

The, "If gays would only just keep it to themselves..." argument is old and tired and completely illogical.

It's simple: get a more descriptive vocabulary, stop thinking that everyone around you is straight and not offended by the slang use of the word "gay," and help fight bigotry.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 9:07AM Crono141 said

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Well, lets put it this way. I don't identify the core of my person as "straight". I don't have a grey rainbow bumpersticker to advertise my straightness to the world. I don't take part in straight support groups, demand special status or "safe zones" to freely practice my straightness. I don't go to or organize straight pride parades. I'm not proud to be straight, nor am I ashamed. In other words, nothing about my straightness defines my core person, only what I find attractive in a sexual partner. Here's another angle. I'm of polish descent, and I think polock jokes are hilarious, because I understand the history of the stereotype. I also don't define my core person as "polish". My argument isn't about what the community thinks, but what the individual thinks of themselves. If you identify yourself as "gay", you're going to be offended by gay jokes, even if no offense is meant, just like I would be offended by polish jokes, even though no offense is intended.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 11:33AM mr nimblewick said

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The difference, Chrono, is that you've never been mocked or threatened for being those things. Sure, there are Polish jokes, but I haven't heard recently of anyone being dragged behind a truck for being Polish.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 2:04PM ummhello said

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@Mr Nimblewick

That's what she said!!!!
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 2:26PM BananaBoat said

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I'm going to go out tonight and have a gay old time.



See? Yeah, you can't steal the language from me!
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 2:32PM berzirk said

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@wiizardly. Niggardly is a word. It means a cheap person. Has nothing to do with the derogatory racial term. IMO race is much, much different than sexual preference, but that gets into the fundamental debate of sexuality being a behavior vs. genetic.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 7:02PM Saria the Cat said

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@Silicon: And there are plenty of people from the LGBT community that would be upset with your friends perpetuating those types of negativity, just as there are plenty of black people who are upset with those black people that throw around the word "n*gger" freely. Just because your gay friends aren't upset by using "gay" to mean "stupid" doesn't give them the right to speak for ALL gay people and say, "Hey, no, it's okay to say 'gay.' It's like, whatever." Self-perpetuation of stereotypes is one of the most aggravating problems for these groups that are trying to eliminate discrimination and tear down barriers.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 8:17PM (Unverified) said

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@Saria

Ah but as I said gay just means happy, but all words evolve over time. This word is no different and people will use it as they please. I personally think anyone who becomes upset from spoken words is a small minded weak person.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 8:25PM Saria the Cat said

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@silicon: Well n*gger simply evolved from the Spanish word for "black," and it had no negative connotations attached to it originally. So, according to your logic, we can just take back n*gger, right? I mean, let's evolve it, you and me. It doesn't HAVE to be about race. It's just describing the color black. Let's take back porch monkeys while we're at it.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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that's gay
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 3:02AM jabberwockgee said

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Do not understand the upvoting...
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 8:12AM (Unverified) said

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Stealing my name is gay.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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That ad is so gay.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:18PM (Unverified) said

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gay people aren't gay about people using the word gay
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Posted: Aug 13th 2009 10:29AM Rick James said

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Not that there's anything wrong with it!
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:36PM mr nimblewick said

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Damn it. I am one of those gamers from the ad.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:44PM SpeeGold said

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I am too, but to be fair, I have amassed hundreds of games over the years, so to have that many friends would be a bit much...
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:47PM TheDarkWayne said

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it;s not hard to, my entire collection of games from age 5 up is well into the late hundreds. I wouldnt want 900 fucking friends
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:50PM RobS the 3rd said

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In fact, most people probably only have about 10 to 15 people they consider friends, so most people would have more games then friends.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:52PM sonicspike41 said

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It's the same as saying:
That's so "consumerist who has more VHS/DVD/Blu Ray movies than friends,"
That's so "NRA member who has more bullets than friends."
That's so "wealthy business man who has more dollar bills than friends."
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 9:53PM Freddie Mercury said

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I prefer a few close friends to an amassed meaningless group of people I know
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:01PM AndrewNeo said

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@sonicspike41 There's a reason you have more bullets than friends. You have to be ready.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 11:07PM (Unverified) said

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I can't keep friends in storage... games on the other hand...
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 11:07PM WiredKnight said

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I am too, totally came in here to say the exact same thing.
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