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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:22AM Hyams said

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Sorry, that should be $300 for both of them, not $200.

(I'm English, not American. Give me a break.)
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:03AM Jerk Face said

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Thank goodness, indeed. That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen!
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:51AM (Unverified) said

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i know i got scared when i saw it lol
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 11:14AM (Unverified) said

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@ winter

thats what im afraid of. ive always been a fan of sony and their products... but def not a fan of the prices.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 12:09PM Samantha PSN Starlighthed211 said

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Holy...

Thank GOD that was a fan created image. For a second I thought that was the real PS3 slim and I was about to hit my head on the keyboard.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:04AM JayVe said

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I've already got a backwards-compatible PS3, and it is a sweet piece of kit. But why is there so much hype over the upcoming slim model?

Size isn't the PS3's problem.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:07AM CaptainProtonX said

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*fist pound*

It is the sweetest thing.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:09AM Vidikron said

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I think mostly because people are expecting a price cut along with the new unit.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:11AM JayVe said

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@Vidikron

If Sony's previous efforts are any indication, we will not get a price cut with the slim model.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:13AM JayVe said

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@Vidikron

If Sony's previous efforts are any indication, there will be no price cut.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:14AM Hyams said

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Yeah, it's because of the price cut. No one's entirely sure how large the cut will be, though.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:16AM Hyams said

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JayVe:

We *know* there will be one, this time though. The Ars Technica mole said so, and he's been right about everything else so far (the bundles, the 80GB models becoming rare, and that 360 Pro model being discontinued).

Rumours are pointing towards it being a 100 Euro (and $100) price cut, but really, those are just rumours. It could be as little as $25, for all we know.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:20AM DangerMouse001 said

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There has to be a price cut. The number one reason people aren't buying a PS3 is the price, not the design. Hyping up the slim, and not dropping the price would be a wasted effort in getting more consoles out to consumers. It will probably be 299.99, and i'll be interested to see if they announce any main system updates in the near future.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:23AM RobS the 3rd said

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Considering they said the cost of PS3 production had gone down 70%, I would say that a price cut is a real possibility.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:26AM JayVe said

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@DangerMouse

The thing is, Sony isn't hyping the PS3 slim. Rumors are. If you were to look at Sony's previous efforts at introducing new models, they seldom come with a price cut. Check out the PSP Go as a prime example. Often times, Sony bundles games and movies with the package, or swaps the memory/hard drive space that comes in the box. Yet price cuts come very rarely.

With all the hype the slim is getting, how much do you want to bet that Sony will keep the price right where it is. There may be a fire-sale on the older models, but Sony is interested in recovering several years of financial losses the PS3 has brought them.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:31AM Hyams said

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My guess:

PS3 Slim launches at the current price, and the Phat models get a discount.

A few months later, when the Phat models have all disappeared from the shelves, the Slim then gets a discount also.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:32AM JayVe said

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@Hyams

Are those prescription rose-colored glasses you are wearing?
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 3:35PM leo3 said

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A slim model= lower production costs= price cut= sales increase =D
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:34AM Mr Khan said

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Different with handhelds, though. People see a smaller handheld as something valuable in and of itself, whereas a smaller home console only has small (or no) value to the market at large (why else would the compact GameCube be beaten by the VCR-sized Xbox?). Sony needs something bigger than "it's littler!" to sell PS3 Slim, but "it's littler!" is much more compelling when trying to sell PSP Go
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:37AM Hyams said

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JayVe:

My assumption that there'll be a price cut is based on what the Ars Technica mole said, who has been 100% right about everything else so far.

(Again, he predicted: excellent bundles, 80GB version stock restraint, and the 360 Pro being replaced by the 360 Elite; all of these ended up coming true.)

If he's been right about everything else so far, I think it's fair enough to assume that he's right about the price cut also.

But whatever, we'll find out in less then a week.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:50AM DangerMouse001 said

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@JayVe

The PSPGo is a different scenario. They can sell it at a premium because it's drastically different than the PSP 3000. With the PS3, anyone who has a normal PS3 will be able to do exactly the same things as slim owners (i assume, but i can't see it function any differently).

The current PS3 models bundling MGS4 & Killzone 2 is a desperate attempt to keep the system selling without dropping the price. That's $90 of two excellent and popular games that they lose the opportunity to sell at retail and make money off of. Sony makes most of their profit off of the games, not the consoles. I don't know how much it is to manufacture the PS3's, but if they can get it anywhere under their retail price, then it's a win, as long as the consumer buys games. A 50 dollar drop is insignificant, so it has to be 100, and they can only do it once, so they have to plan for the best time. And this holiday season would be the best time to do it.
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Posted: Aug 19th 2009 2:30PM Vidikron said

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Haha... just had to come post here and point out that the price cut did indeed happen.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:05AM heimbachae said

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how does sony have this many unreliable employees that EVERY single secret they've had in the last few months has broken street date?
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:13AM UnnXandros said

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Its called Viral Marketing
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:14AM RobS the 3rd said

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Because they either get a kick secretly leaking info, or some of them have friends who drag it out of them, but that's just my guess.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:16AM JayVe said

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@Unnxandros

Viral marketing? If people are waiting around for a new slim model to arrive, then they are not buying what is currently on shelves.

That is a silly reason.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:18AM Hyams said

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It's impossible to keep anything like this secret for long. Remember last year with the 360 price cuts? Same deal - we knew all about it long before it actually happened.

But yeah, Sony have been on a role, recently.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 11:36AM CtrlBurn said

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As I recall, the first images of the PS3 slim were shown on a retail box leaked from the Chinese manufacturing plant where they were being made. Based on that, it doesn't seem like it's Sony employees that are responsible for these things.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 7:53PM (Unverified) said

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The truth is, at some point you can't keep everything secret.

When you have the damn chinese snapping cell phone pics of them coming off the assembly line, and retail chain owners griping about not being able to get a hold of shipments, and then theres just the regular Sony employee who thinks he can get his 5 minutes of fame leaking information he probably was never supposed to have.

I mean look at Apple. That company sues the hell out of you then rapes and murders your family and friends after burning down your house and hanging your dog... yet they still have leaks.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 7:56PM (Unverified) said

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And by the way, Apple also sends this man... http://www.geocities.com/aleong1631/patriot3.jpg and calls you a cheeky fellow.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2009 12:17AM Au said

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Believe me, A Sony attempt at viral marketing would be much more crude than "leaked PS3 price cut information".

I know this because all I wanted for Christmas was a PSP. A PSP. A PSP.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:14AM (Unverified) said

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I had someone from SCEA telling me that image as the real deal, but he wouldnt back up his source so I'm guessing you guys are correct on this one. Blessing in disguise. I posted this to ATP on Facebook and my users weren't exactly chuffed about the design either.

Much obliged on the Kudos.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:19AM Hyams said

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No, it's definitely a fan image. It's from here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mhiblart/
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:23AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah I've been shown that by sum1 @ Joystiq. I just had a colleague at SCEA that swore blind his source was Kosha. Obviously he doesn't get around the internet that much to have seen the mock ups ppl have "envisioned"
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:27AM Hyams said

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Well, there *are* leaked images of the actual PS3 Slim. Maybe he was referring to those?
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:31AM (Unverified) said

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No, there's no leaked shots, otherwise they'd be in the public domain by now. Especially considering how bad SCEA and SCEI are at keeping secrets.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:34AM Hyams said

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There have been two collections of leaked shots, and a video.

The first set showed the different components at a manufacturing plant. http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/14/rumor-pictures-show-slim-ps3-model-in-production/

The second set (plus the video) was of a Slim that had somehow found its way into a dodgy looking market. (Presumably stolen off the back of a truck, or something.) http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/13/slim-shot-suspect-ps3-redesign-captured-in-philippines/
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:39AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah..erm. That's not the slim, Hyams. Take my word for it, and if you don't wish to do that, bookmark this article and we can come back and laugh about it after Gamescom. ;-)
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:47AM Hyams said

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You sure it's not? Because I know that a couple of industry insiders have confirmed it on GAF.

And the fact that it looks identical in two completely different sources of photos kindda backs it up.

Oh, and there's the fact that the leaked box art looks almost identical to the PSP Go's boxart, which was revealed about a week after the Slim photos leaked. http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/30/rumored-psp-go-box-bares-striking-resemblance-to-rumored-slim-ps/

But still, in a week's time we'll know for sure whether it is or isn't. =)
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:51AM (Unverified) said

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In the land of anonymity, EVERYONE is an "Industry Insider". lol.

As you said, we shall see.
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Posted: Aug 18th 2009 6:03PM Hyams said

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I win. =)
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Posted: Aug 19th 2009 2:33PM Vidikron said

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Heh... I see you bookmarked this too, Hyams. I came back to point out the same thing.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:16AM Muhammad Oli said

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I'm hoping Sony announces a few other things too. For example, they are yet to tell us about the PSP Go's UMD amnesty or whatever they're going to set up for people to swap their disc games to digital.

To be honest, unless the new PS3 has some serious hardware advantages (and let's face it, it won't), then I'm more keen to hear news of the PSP Go.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:23AM Hyams said

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Oh shit, where did Fernando's comment go?
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:36AM Muhammad Oli said

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You'll get their eventually, son.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:19AM RangerPrimeX said

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Better yet. Have Sony announce the PS3 Slim and have it be more expensive like they just did to the PSP/PSP Go. That would be hysterical.
Honestly, they need a price drop and $25 or $50 is not it. It needs to be $100 so it will be priced the same as what the 360 Elite will be dropping to which is $299 with the 360 Pros going away.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:29AM JayVe said

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I agree. If there is going to be a price cut, it better put the system at $299. If the price cut is only for $50 or $25, then it will look like a token effort, and not a real competitive move.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:20AM Uraeus said

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Depending on the design I might consider replacing my original PS3 with a new slim one. My main concern would be if it is more quiet than my current one, as the fan noise has increased over the years, even with my best effort of frequently cleaning it with compressed air etc.

I don't care to much about the PS2 support of my current box, but another thing that might hold back from doing a switch would be if the slim only got 2 USB ports and no memory card readers like the current 'fat' models.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:38AM Ashitaka said

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It's a given that the Slim will only have 2 USB ports and no memory card readers.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2009 10:21AM Hyams said

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True. But then, if the $100 price cut for the PS3 is true, that isn't such a big deal.

It'd be a $200 120GB PS3 versus a $200 120GB 360.

That's still a win for Sony, I'd say, given that there's usually a large price gap between the two consoles.

(But then, I doubt the PS3 is getting such a large price cut. Still, I'm very possibly wrong.)
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