Remedy's Sam Lake shows off Remedy's Alan Wake

I'm glad you're being proactive. The power is YOURS afterall.

Doesn't that speak more to your ability to comprehend humour?

You would think the power of Heart would grant me the ability to comprehend humor, but when you have green hair, red tightie-whities and you have to go home to Rosie O'Donnell every night, you pretty much lose all human emotion.

Oh, come now. That's half the fun of Joystiq

come on guys!


GALL BLADDER!

I told you Pedo! Never to summon your power without the others. Do you think these adult diapers are cheap? DO YOU?

you'd never yell at ma-ti like that :(

Too long. Didn't listen.

Ah, you gotta love comments that get worse with each sentence.

Killjebus, If you're such a graphics nut, why don't you go watch a DVD. They have great graphics and all the characters look very realistic. You can even play them without a controller, so you can be immersed in it.

I bet you're one of those people that needs pictures in their books too.

Found something to help you out Killjebus...

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And coincidentally, it's from Dick's Sporting Goods.

Yes.. this is all very interesting. I'm sure graphics are what makes or breaks a game, right? You PS3 fanboys are such graphic whores now. It's funny in the last gen how PS2 graphics were the weakest and nobody cared. It still had a huge library of great games. And you're wrong. Immersion in games today are more about interaction and less about graphics. Take Halo for instant. The game is starting to look dated among the other titles out there.. but even after 2 years it is still widely played onlline as the most popular title on XBL. And if you'll notice.. even with all the hardware power you are talking about in the PS3, games are remembered as much on that console as a big budgeted popcorn flick at the theater on opening weekend. Killzone 2 or Heavenly Sword anyone? I'd compare AAA titles on PS3 to something like Transformers 2. Fun to view the first time but very forgettable. Name a title that people are playing as much as Gears or Halo. Yeah, that's what I thought. Theres all your superior hardware at work.

So after after I read the preceding comments, I tried to go back and read his post and it had been downvoted so far, it was nearly impossible.

I particularly liked how he went from liking the game, to bashing the game and then to bashing the 360 altogether. It's like he tried his best to disguise his fanboy-ness, but he just couldn't keep it under wraps.

Personally, I'll agree that the PS3 is a more powerful, I think everyone here knows that. But you can't say that just because of that, a developer/console isn't capable of producing a great gaming experience - which Alan Wake will no doubt be. Oh, and the game looks pretty damn good, btw.

Raw power does not equal superiority. If that was the case, everyone would be driving a dumptruck down the highway.

Graphics are not everything...but they are the biggest factor for me in immersion. Graphics matter, they matter to everyone on this blog. If they didn't...then why did I see so many posts about how good Gears looks and the the PS3 would never be able to achieve that level circa 2007? Yet now that it is clear that the PS3 DESTROYS the 360 in terms of lighting, detail, character models, animation, size...now the same loyal 360 fans tell me that graphics don't matter?

I am sorry that your 360 with its DVD drive and measly 3 processors cannot compete with the biggest baddest boy on the console block, the Cell.

I am sorry that you will never see a game on the 360 that looks as good as Uncharted 1, KZ2, Heavy Rain, GT5, GOW3, Uncharted 2....on so on.

I am even more sorry that I was right all along when back in 2007 when so many were bashing the PS3 with hey...where are these amazing graphics that Sony promised. I am sorry sorry sorry that I said to you all give Sony time, the games will come...good games take time.

I am sorry that I said back in 2007 that the PS3 will continue to evolve and put out better looking, and bigger games each and every year while the 360 will stagnate.

I am superduper sorry that I was right...and most of you were wrong.

Don't worry your pretty little heads though...a multi-platform game will come along with slightly better results on the 360 and we will see a bunch of posts that say the 360 is more powerful.

Just think, in 1 day, Sony will show off GT5 in all its glory, announce the PS3 Slim and all hell will break loose.

Killjebus,

You're a Tool. With a capital "T"

Man, this kid is fucking hilarious. I didn't think a human could fit his entire head up his own ass, but along came Killjebus.

"Personally, I'll agree that the PS3 is a more powerful, I think everyone here knows that. But you can't say that just because of that, a developer/console isn't capable of producing a great gaming experience - which Alan Wake will no doubt be. Oh, and the game looks pretty damn good, btw."

Then why do we still see so many multi-platform comparisons with comments like the 360 looks better, the PS3 can't keep up?

And I did not say that Remedy was not capable of making a great game with the 360. I said that it was to bad that they had to curtail their original vision to work within the limitations of the 360 from their original open world idea where nearly everything would be up to you in what you the player wanted to do. And yes the game is one of the best looking 360 games that I have seen...if not the best.

Like it or not, DVD and the weaker 360 CPU has limited what Remedy was able to do. I still really like what this game looks to be, and I will play this game when it comes out.

This game and Mass Effect2 are 2 games that I am most intrigued by for the 360.

I am glad I am able to make so many friends from this post. Keep 'em coming boys.

I especially love how most of you take what I have said and decided that the only thing I care about is graphics. I still play RBI baseball on my NES and I still play Worms for the PS1 on my PS3. Graphics and gameplay are the most important factors for me, without both of them humming along in unison, it takes away from the experience. But if I had to choose, I say gameplay 1st...without good gameplay, I would get bored after an hour or 2.

Lucky for me and other PS3 owners...I CAN HAS BOTH!!!!

Ahhhhh. Poor little PS3 fan has to clutch onto his graphics to make himself feel better that PS3 is still in 3rd place. Funny that with all the hardware issues, blu-ray, etc.. PS3 still can't manage to steal the spotlight from 360's library of games and XBL service. Too bad your graphics rant doesn't mean #$(# to all the Wii and 360 owners out there enjoying all their titles that actually have release dates.

HAHAHA! GT5?!? Forza 3 is coming out this year. See, there's no wait over here. Sorry you have faith in titles that are subjected to constant delays only to release underwhelming. KZ2 was a beautiful game. I had really high hopes for that one. But after playing it for a day and finding the controls to fail in comparison to even Halo 2... I had to return that title in order to continue on with Halo and the COD franchise. Sorry you like to witness your games in blu-ray quality only to have them collect dust for finishing second to titles that have managed to be immensely fun without all the bells and whistles developers aren't even using. You keep tellng yourself that graphics are what makes titles. Ask Factor 5 how that's working out for them. Boy, that HAZE title was a fantastic one to boast about too. HAHA! Funny PS3 fanboy. Such a sweet kid. ;P

I agree. Environments and lighting looks fantastic but the character models are a bit geometric. The blockiness of the sheriff in particular looks reminiscent of the Half Life G-man as he appeared in Half Life 2. That isn't to say that the G-man looked bad in Half Life 2, but developers have improved charater models quiet a bit since 2004.

Perhaps this is one of the things Remedy are going to polish over the next few months? Here's hoping!

"I agree. Environments and lighting looks fantastic but the character models are a bit geometric. The blockiness of the sheriff in particular looks reminiscent of the Half Life G-man as he appeared in Half Life 2."

Thanks Chris, good to know that at least 1 person saw past my poking fun at the 360. I want this game to be good, Its too bad that Remedy was forced to go completely off their original vision because of the limitations of the 360's DVD drive and subpar CPU.

Nothing screams 2004 more than blocky character models, and the 360 is full of them.

..and nothing screams "Shit" more then Killjebus, and you're full of it too.

Chas not Chris. Sorry my graphics-whore glasses must be out of alignment.

Boy, I really hit some 360 fanboy nerves with this post eh? There are a few posts that add to my discussion like Chas but for the most part...in the words of Dubya....Misshun Akomplishd!!!! Fanboys unite and defend the 360 from the eveil FACTS that Killjebus has unleashed upon us and our precious 360.

So many of you who were all about graphics in 2007 are now doing a 180 and telling me that graphics don't matter. Oh, the irony...it smells soooo good.

Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war 360 fanboys.

RAmen

Edit: No need for that kind of language.

Whoa whoa whoa...Alan Wake isn't open world? Did this dumb fuck really say that?


From Remedy's Morry on the Alan Wake forums...

"Before you jump to conclusions, let me ask you this: how do you create terror and suspense in a scene by letting the player do anything and go anywhere they want?

Creating suspenseful moments requires the player to be in certain places at certain times which can only be created by having the player follow a linear, predetermined path. This allows the developers to have full control over what the player sees, hears and thinks. You simply cannot have this level of control if you make the whole game open-world / sandbox / whatever fancy word they are using now.

The game will have both linear sequences (for the thriller part of the game) and exploration (for the quieter periods). "


From Remedy's ADM:

"Also "open-world" and sandbox are totally different things. Alan Wake is "open-world" and always has been "open-world". Alan Wake is not a sandbox game.

Not being sandbox /= linear.

Thank you and good day."


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HAHA! You're killing my Killjebus...PSN Killjebus!!!

I haven't laughed this hard on this site in a long time. I'll tell you what.. you seem like a nice misguided child that likes to have the latest and greatest in technology (otherwise it's obsolete, right?)... I'll bookmark this page and when the xbox 720 comes out 2 years before PS4 and you have to go out and buy one cause you have to have the best.. I'll send these posts to you and we can have ourselves a good old laugh!! HAHAHA! Latest and greatest. Best graphics!!

You just wait.2010 is the year of PS3. If it's not 2010.. then it's 2011 for sure. If it's not the year of PS3 by 2011.. we'll catch it again in 2012. HAHA! See where this is going? Damn, so many games reserved here already on the 360 side of the fence. Might be pretty broke this winter with all these titles coming out. :) Oh, well.. .enjoy your pictures and videos of GT5.

@YouFAILED: Dont tell me Uncharted 2 wasnt great. LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Valkyria Chronicles and inFamous.

Also, you cant compare popularity with greatness. Even though tons of people are still playing Halo 3, does that make it great? No.

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2 but with upgraded graphics anyway..

@ David

"Also, you cant compare popularity with greatness. Even though tons of people are still playing Halo 3, does that make it great? No."

That makes absolutely no sense. Not just great.. but great 2 years later my friend. I wasn't arguing PS3 had no good titles. I didn't mention the ones you mentioned. I simply said graphics don't make a hit. 360 has titles that are still wildly popular 2 years after release. And yes, if people are still playing them.. that does say something about how fun they are... which makes them great.

@You FAILED

Alot of people playing a game means its popular. Just because its popular doesn't mean its good. Halo is not a bad game, but its not good either. Gears of War strikes me the same way. The only game that would make me consider buying a 360 looks to be Alan Wake.
3rd place? Where are we racing to?

Quality > Quantity my friend

Sa1ntPat

"Alot of people playing a game means its popular. Just because its popular doesn't mean its good. Halo is not a bad game, but its not good either. Gears of War strikes me the same way. The only game that would make me consider buying a 360 looks to be Alan Wake.
3rd place? Where are we racing to?

Quality > Quantity my friend"



Seriously... you PS3 lovers make no sense today. How is a game popular if it's not good? Your reasoning doesn't make sense. This isn't high school. You don't have to buy a game to be popular. That makes no sense at all. It's popular because people like to play it. People like to play it cause it's good. It's only raised the bar along with COD for console FPS's. It's a name that is well known and loved in the game industry. Killzone 2 had their chance to be great but didn't even set itself apart from other shooters. It was just a pretty game. I don't hear anyone talking about it anymore. I played it for a day and it felt like every other shooter out there. The controls were terrible in comparison to other console shooters. And at the moment.. there is nothing outside of blu-ray that interests me on PS3. There are too many games on the 360 I'm interested in to even have time to look at another console. Sorry to burst your bubble but XBOX 360 has plenty of QUALITY titles, DLC expansions, and arcade titles to make anyone happy.

The "finished" game is a far cry from the original idea, but I think this is a game that will still be worth playing. Yes the characters look blocky and the detail in the faces are not on par with Uncharted 1. The lighting is cool and could really set the mood of the game. Its just too bad that Remedy was forced to go away from their original GTA style go anywhere do anything direction....remember the tornado demo from 2005 where everything in its path was reduced to realistic rubble?

This game right here shows the limitations of the 360. This is a game made only for the 360 with a 4 year development time...and it cannot even hold the jock of Uncharted 1 that came out 2 years ago. Anyone who still thinks that the 360 is on par with the PS3 is just lying to themselves.

I would have really liked to see Remedy be able to make a game that matched their original vision. Oh well.

I am looking forward to this game, but I definitely have to agree about the voice acting. Everyone other than Alan (his wife, the police officer) sounded terrible. Maybe the rushed parts of the dialogue can be improve while they are polishing the game, because it is looking really good so far.

Oh jebus, could someone please kill Killjebus?

"Oh jebus, could someone please kill Killjebus?"

Sarcastic or not...thanks for the threat of violence. Violence is the answer kiddies, if you don't like someone's opinion...just kill 'em...or get someone else to do it for you.

Killjebus, don't be an idiot. No one here wishes violence or death for you.
But we do want you to shut up already.

Better?

Yeah, I don't want him to die either, I just want his arms to be severed off so he can't type anymore.

@Killjebus...PSN Killjebus

That tornado video was a tech demo for intel you f**king tool, pre-made for that job using the level designer. It also showed day night cycles in seconds too but go figure, that isnt in the game either.

Was for me. I messed up on the second try.

Speech/Fail.